posted October 03, 2015 06:40 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have BAAL conjunct EXACT ASMODEUS in the 4th semisextile AMOR and when I saw that exact conjunction it freaked me out.

That is lilith the asteroid right?

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Baal-ASmodeus probably speaks of a very strong capacity for experiencing sensuality and sexuality with total abandon. Baals was most of all a fertility-god, and Asmodeus is known as the demon of Lust. however in the bible it interestingly read that he "loved" Sarah (and got rid of her 7 husbands, each time before they could "posess" her; it was only Tobias who managed to consume the marriage with her, after marrying her, and bind the demon, with the help of the angel Raphael. Nevetheless, I find it intriguing that the bible used the word "love" to describe Asmodeus attention towards Sarah).

On the other hand he is also the demon that Lilith got into a relationship with after leaving Adam and fleeing from him to the Red sea, I think?

Probably it would be interesting to check Asmodeus discovery chart as well, to see how demonic the demon was.

posted October 03, 2015 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Baal-ASmodeus probably speaks of a very strong capacity for experiencing sensuality and sexuality with total abandon. Baals was most of all a fertility-god, and Asmodeus is known as the demon of Lust. however in the bible it interestingly read that he "loved" Sarah (and got rid of her 7 husbands, each time before they could "posess" her; it was only Tobias who managed to consume the marriage with her, after marrying her, and bind the demon, with the help of the angel Raphael. Nevetheless, I find it intriguing that the bible used the word "love" to describe Asmodeus attention towards Sarah).

On the other hand he is also the demon that Lilith got into a relationship with after leaving Adam and fleeing from him to the Red sea, I think?

Probably it would be interesting to check Asmodeus discovery chart as well, to see how demonic the demon was.

and yes, asteroid Lilith this time

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A lot of interesting details!!!!!!! Thanks. HAHA lilith left Adam and got with Asmodeus LOL. I guess Adam was too boring for her and wanted to tame her, the demon of lust must have kept her on her toes and liked her as she was LOL.

7 times huh? When in love he is very persistent, ardent, and protective..

Actually yes Asmodeus does not have a scary chart and quite the lover boy he seems to be if we go by the discovery chart (MOON squares VENUS opposite AMOR, NORTHNODE conjuncts SAPPHO, CUPIDO conjunct PLUTO, PRIAPUS conjunct KAALI, VALENTINE at the Galactic Center forming a GRAND TRINE with JUPITER and JUNO), here it is:

However, it is interesting that JUPITER forms a Thor's Hammer with VENUS and MOON since JUPITER has to do with ethics, law etc...He will be criticized because in essence he feels all is fair in the name of love.

I will add if I find more interesting connections..

posted October 04, 2015 01:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
wow,d id not notice that, but yes, how complimentary iwth the TRue LIlith!

Baal was one of those gods who got demonized in the bible, as you probably know.
However he was among the chief gods in Babylon and mroe so in Phoenicia.

Baal - Astarte were pretty much the Phoenician equivalent to Adonis (tammuz) - Inanna, or Adonis - Ishtar.
Though I have found also direct references of Baal with Ishtar.
He was a Sun-God, just as Isthar was a Moon-Goddess.

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Very interesting...the 111111 discovery chart has BAAL opposite Ishtar almost exact right on the NORTHNODE and SOUTHNODE and SELENE conjuncts ISHTAR.

BAAL in GEMINI @29d04
SELENE in CAP @1d17
ISHTAR in SAG @29d36
SOUTHNODE in SAG @27d45

Did not know about Baal and Ishtar or Baal and Astarte and the connection to Adonis-Ishtar/Innanen.
Thanks.

posted October 04, 2015 08:30 PM            

I also have sumeria conjunct 131313 in composite with boyfriend...2 degree orb. What does it all represent? What energy would these aspects bring with those connections?

My relationship with my ex obviously did not last forever, 17 yrs, but we eventually parted.

Dont feel that either one is a twin flame. maybe a soul mate...

posted October 04, 2015 10:00 PM            

Awww...

<<< This part though can you elaborate a little bit more: "- That's why dejanira squares 131313's true node, because it doesn't need such temptation to accomplish that goal.
So the 'temptation' squares it." >>>

lol well,
that's why I said it was a simple reasoning !
seems like keeping it simple wasn't a great idea after all ...

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Ok,
SO, I have just taken a look at 13 13 13's chart again, to see if I could find an specific 'theme'...
Well and I don't know if it was... kind of obvious (or if I'm just a bit lucky lol) but I think I've found the correct pattern.

~ The theme of this chart...

Reminds me of this sabian:

Aquarius 24°
A man, having overcome his passions, teaches deep wisdom in terms of his experience

~ Hmmm, where to begin? I don't want to make it too extensive

13 13 13...
It's a very peculiar chart indeed.

As you can see, there are many Anaretic degrees that coincidentialy are related to the same theme.

It's pointless to send an Islamic extremist to a gay pride event to see if the dude can overcome his decades of dogmatic intolerance.
Same if you have a friend who is an alcoholic, would you give her lots of Jack Daniels as a rehab treatment?
If your grandma loves gambling until losing everything lol, you wouldn't send her to a casino in las Vegas.

~ That's why there are some restrictions in our natal, they are not there to annoy us lol or to represent a oppresive hand, quite similar to human pettiness and arrogance. *Eta* Restrictions can easily disappear as soon as we realize what we have been doing wrong or assuming wrong as a vicious cycle ~ no challenging aspects are "for ever" since we are not living in a 1D world, as times goes by, our chart "progresses" with us, and even if there's still "red lines" involving transpersonal planets, I think I can guarantee you that there are no challenging aspects that you can't beat with your own will, sorry if I'm repeating this over 99999 times but it's just the way I see things.
Linda wrote ( I forgot where exactly...) that no hard aspects can overcome the power of love, and yes, that's true for me as well.

Back on topic, yes, a theme with women and helpless ladies is present. I'd said that there weren't very good relationships with lovers/grown women in general(venus) and also with ladies that weren't their lovers and maybe not necessesarily grown (157).
Yes, it means a pending debt, waiting to be solved. But the more "this energy" represented in 13 13 13 meets the same (Venusian) context, the more predisposition to accumulate bad karma (Rx)
Would you give a rapist the chance of getting a job at an Elementary School? Obviously not. This is why I said ( in a vague way ) "The temptation Squares it", because such context is highly risky, and logically not needed.
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• And here's the part that some of you probably won't like. ( because the programmation might be strong )

In order to release this karma, the divine order (probably operating at a certain point as 13 13 13) has chosen lots of Aries placements, including a Sun conj Moon.
Aries, as a higher octave of martian energy has in its favor the capability to control its own destiny. Its true dispositor, Pluto, is trine Juno/Venus and even Sextile (157)
There is 0 Scorpio in this chart, except Karma(3811).

Don't take offense, but
~ Can you imagine the Devine Order assigning this heavy task to a Sign that is famous for being emotionally turbulent and that hides its mistakes behind socially acceptable words?

This chart must rely on its Mercury ( Le discerniment ) that trines True Node and on its Uranus (higher octave of Mercury) ruler of neo cortex, so it can overcome that energy in 21º and 28º Gem

This is what makes me believe why our own natals embody the perfect key to success, in order to accomplish the task of our True Node.
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~ In my case, that's why I commented about my chart, I may have chosen it in order to surpass my super well-aspected Saturn that only squares my nodes.
It may turn into a real vice if I focus my goals in pure Saturnine matters, like a foolish bird
But well, that's my case, and I didn't come to this thread to talk about myself !

Thanks hypatia238, Aubyanne, Orange, Tgem, Ceridwen, Aunt Anomalia, Gabby and to everyone who showed interest in this peculiar thread !

Well,
I think this is pretty much all I'd have to say

~ Have a Good Night !

posted October 04, 2015 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I still struggle with the ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE (0°) conjunct MOON (2°) that my boyfriend has.

If anything could be so completely cancelled out, heh, something clearly did that!

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BC he is asexual? well if you look at the ASMODEUS discovery chart it has EROS conjunct NEPTUNE-MOON and MARS trines URANUS which both sextile Venus so its not a VERY sexual chart really, Mars and Uranus are both pointing to Venus and not to Mars perhaps if it was reverse Uranus trine Venus both sextiling Mars it would have a more sexual theme.

You add Cupido conjunct Pluto and that beautiful grand trine between Valentine-Juno-Jupiter and the sense I get is not so much a lustful theme but a theme of love and devotion, someone who can commit to the person he worships and puts up on a pedestal (cupido conjunct pluto, moon-neptune, valentine-juno-jupiter grand trine).

Now EROS discovery chart has mars conjunct pluto and possibly moon conjunct true lilith so that is more erotic and gives more of a sexual drive! .

Since EROS is conjuncting Neptune that erotic energy from EROS could stay in his fantasy life and not manifest physically.

What you will find telling is that the closest aspect Mars is making in ASMODEUS discovery chart is to CHIRON, MARS sextiles CHIRON

posted October 04, 2015 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
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triple post lol

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posted October 07, 2015 02:26 AM            

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posted August 01, 2016 02:35 PM            

His 131313 trine my Venus, conjunct my Amor
My 131313 conjunct his Venus

I don't like that Venus square Neptune in 111111 discovery chart. Delusional as f...

I was also thinking about asteroid 1111. I don't think it's discivery chart is very soulmate-y/TF-y. And it is already named - Reinmutha. Which has nothing to do with TFs, i think.
But I've tried it anyway, aaand...

posted August 01, 2016 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Gabby its actually kind of beautiful!

VENUS conjuncts HORUS and POSEIDON H47! WOW
ISIS conjuncts OSIRIS
Ceres-Isis-Osiris-Valentine Stellium
SUN conjunct EROS
AMOR trine CUPIDO

Last, There is a Kite:
Mars Grand Trine with Moon-Interkosmos and Saturn and Saturn opposes Pluto.

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I dunno, Venus square Neptune isn't necessarily delusional, especially with Neptune on the Asc, I actuallythink the square from Venus points to the higher octave of Neptune kicking in and overriding our ideas of what love is or can be (9th house Venus).

The Sun on the MC is extremely auspicious (conjunct my Sun!)

.. moon on my venus, ascendant Neptune conjunct our composite Sun... descendant conjunct composite Venus. Venus mercury conjunct my ascendant, his vertex.

Whoa... North Node conjunct his North Node, Saturn Pluto opposition along his Ascendant Descendant axis and my Sun Moon midpoint axis...

Explains a bit why this one might figure prominently in our synastry and composite perhaps. Not sure it is a TF thing but we do have a lot in common.

posted August 01, 2016 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I personally think 11 and... extra 11s... lol... indicate an awareness of magic and synchronicity and wish fulfillment. Just because that's my own cultural and experiential awareness of the whole 11:11 phenomenon... so I could see it being prominent in the chart comparisons of people who are synchronized, ergo experience magical things together, who are given little proofs of the magnificent design of the universe together. And in a natal it would be similarly indicative of a personal awareness of such things

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posted August 01, 2016 07:27 PM            

Maybe it is silly of me to consider angles and houses in the discovery chart but I do believe that there is magic and synchronicity, and it's no mistake that this was the noon hour chart, and the time you chose. Neptune wanted to be highlighted