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hypatia238
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posted September 26, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Neptune29 mentioned in another thread looking into asteroid 111111 and 131313 as twin flame markers so I am wondering how many of you have this active in your TF composite and synastries!

I think it would be fun to check out and research if there is something to it.

I will share a little bit of what I have found:

Interesting, my 111111 squares my SUN-HORUS at 28d which trines my ALMA at 28d. 111111 also conjuncts my Neptune in the first under 3d. Last, 131313 conjuncts my Cupido.

With my Ex who I have always suspected is my TF we have composite 131313-Moon-111111 conjunction and his 131313 conjuncts my ALMA and his Valentine conjuncts my 111111.

With another soulmate we have composite Sun conjunct 111111. His Venus conjuncts exact my 111111 and his 111111 conjuncts my name asteroid, my kaali, my reiki and hygeia plus it squares my valentine.

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posted September 26, 2015 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never did anything for me. I also ran it with several other charts of confirmed (or personally identifying) twins.

Nada.

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posted September 26, 2015 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's kind of interesting is that my 111111 is 0° conjunct his ANTEROS-MELETE, and 2° his VALENTINE-MADHATTER. You'd mentioned a VAL-11 connexion, H.

Nothing's up with 131313, though.

Same with composite.

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posted September 26, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot.
Also checked your profile but your mail id is not available.

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posted September 26, 2015 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
only this really:

natally, my 111111 parallels my SN exact
his 131313 parallels his lilith exact

my lilith conjunct his 111111 exact
my juno parallel his 131313
my pallas parallel his 131313
my 111111 contra parallel his pluto exact
my 131313 parallel his SN exact, sun, venus, juno, eros

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posted September 26, 2015 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
and 2° his VALENTINE-MADHATTER. You'd mentioned a VAL-11 connexion, H.


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posted September 26, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune29:
Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot.

Are you saying they are guaranteed markers?

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posted September 26, 2015 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think these are very prominent in case of soul mate connections.
My husband who I feel is my karmic soul mate has
His 111111 trines my sun,Mercury pallas, nessus and Juno exact.0 orbs
His 131313 sextiles my ascendant and Pluto exact
My 131313 trines his Jupiter and moon exact.
My 111111 conjuncts his vertex exact

The guy who I feel a TF connection has
His 111111 and 131313 conjunction which is 0 degree in natal
Semi squares my sun and Mercury 0 orb
Opposites my moon 0 orb
Conjuncts my Venus 1 orb
Trines my mars and true node 1 orb
My 111111 trines his Juno 1 orb
My 131313 conjuncts his IC exact

Let us try this.. Please keep the orb very tight 0-1 and only to planets not asteroids

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posted September 26, 2015 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I buy that there might be a soulmate (especially karmic soulmate) connexion to these asteroids, but I'm not seeing it in twin flames.

Interesting enough, I've got 131313 conjunct my karmic soulmate's CHIRON (0º). But nothing with 111111. At least, nothing of note.

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posted September 27, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neptune29:
Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot.
Also checked your profile but your mail id is not available.

He's actually said that all asteroids can be used in the same way that we use the tarot. Yes. That's true. Which is one of the reasons why asteroid usage is so personal, and even specific. Patterns will present themselves, and be so crucial in proper interpretation.

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posted September 27, 2015 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Auby got it. Please remove.

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posted September 27, 2015 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked and we have it prominently in the synastry with the two men in my life. My two soulmates.

From the top of my head, we have with the first:
111111 conjunct 131313 exact
His 111111 conjunct my Sun/oppose Venus
My 131313 conjunct his Sun/ oppose Venus
My 111111 conjuncts his IC exact

With the second:
My 111111 conjuncts his ASC and Sun exact
His 111111 conjuncts my Alma-Juno-Saturn conj

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posted September 27, 2015 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
He's actually said that all asteroids can be used in the same way that we use the tarot. Yes. That's true. Which is one of the reasons why asteroid usage is so personal, and even specific. Patterns will present themselves, and be so crucial in proper interpretation.


But the same can be said for planets, the way the energy of a planet manifests is also very personal and unique to each person.

Regardless I don't personally like that comparison, I have always found astrology in general superior to tarots.

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posted September 27, 2015 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neptune29:
Yes, I think these are very prominent in case of soul mate connections.
My husband who I feel is my karmic soul mate has
His 111111 trines my sun,Mercury pallas, nessus and Juno exact.0 orbs
His 131313 sextiles my ascendant and Pluto exact
My 131313 trines his Jupiter and moon exact.
My 111111 conjuncts his vertex exact

The guy who I feel a TF connection has
His 111111 and 131313 conjunction which is 0 degree in natal
Semi squares my sun and Mercury 0 orb
Opposites my moon 0 orb
Conjuncts my Venus 1 orb
Trines my mars and true node 1 orb
My 111111 trines his Juno 1 orb
My 131313 conjuncts his IC exact

Let us try this.. Please keep the orb very tight 0-1 and only to planets not asteroids


I think orbs can be kept up to 3d specially if you are talking about soulmates in general including karmic soulmates and not just TF.

Also only including planets is kind of planetcentric, pluto was demoted to a dwarf and is considered a minor planet and asteroids are minor planets too. Further Juno, pallas, ceres among many others were discovered in the early 1800s and Pluto in 1930 so there are certain asteroids that I have found to be just as valuable as a planets or suspect they are and I would consider them for this for sure.

That being said based on your personal preferences I will share this: I have in my chart 111111 squaring my SUN-HORUS both at 28d and in addition my Sun trines my ALMA at 28d.

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posted September 27, 2015 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
His 111111 conjuncts my Alma-Juno-Saturn conj

Love that you have ALMA-JUNO-SATURN. It's gotta be near mine. On the SGC?

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posted September 27, 2015 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
But the same can be said for planets, the way the energy of a planet manifests is also very personal and unique to each person.

Regardless I don't personally like that comparison, I have always found astrology in general superior to tarots.


I think I got what he meant; or maybe I misinterpreted it? For me, it's the sense of, plug in what you perceive might be influential, and relevant. Then, pay close attention to what's already part of patterns, so that you can piece together what it all means.

That's my idea of it.

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posted September 27, 2015 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I buy that there might be a soulmate (especially karmic soulmate) connexion to these asteroids, but I'm not seeing it in twin flames.

Interesting enough, I've got 131313 conjunct my karmic soulmate's CHIRON (0º). But nothing with 111111. At least, nothing of note.


Well you have it with your current twin conjunct valentine by 2d which is tight enough and yes counts and Valentine is definitely very significant in my book, possibly more than Venus.

With my EX:

My 111111 in Sag @28d49
His Valentine in Sag @27d48
His Mars in Sag @26d24
My Neptune in Sag @26d31

His 131313 in Taurus @27d47
My alma in Taurus @28d11

In Composite:
131313 in Pisces @16d47
MOON in Pisces @18d51
111111 in Pisces @21d08
Venus in Virgo @22d47

With my ex lover:

My 111111 conjuncts his VENUS at 28d

In composite
Mercury conjunct 111111 almost exact
SUN conjunct 111111 by less than 2d

In Davison
Mars conjunct 111111 by 1d and an exact inconjunction between 111111 and VALENTINE which conjuncts Saturn and together they are at the apex of a composite LOVE YOD with an exact sextile between mars and venus.

So including your OWN we have three VALENTINE aspect 111111 involving your current TF, and my TF candidates or important soulmates.

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posted September 27, 2015 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I think I got what he meant; or maybe I misinterpreted it? For me, it's the sense of, plug in what you perceive might be influential, and relevant. Then, pay close attention to what's already part of patterns, so that you can piece together what it all means.

That's my idea of it.


I can relate to that yes...thanks.

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posted September 27, 2015 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I can relate to that yes...thanks.

I've never been a 'tarot' person, either; I respect it our of respect for those who practise it, and am very grateful for their talent and skill. But I've always been an astrologer, straight-up.

Heh. My 'current' twin flame? I'm convinced that, if there's somehow suddenly overwhelming evidence to disprove it -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- something that's as powerful as it was to 'prove' it -- then my twin is simply not here on this plane of existence.

I understand entirely why I've always felt the way that I have regarding my 'karmic soulmate' -- who still feels to me like a twin soul; a powerful catalyst that is part of the entire process.

But I get your scepticism, H. Completely. I began a thread a few days back, trying to begin to explain it the best way I know how. But I don't think I did a very good job of it.

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posted September 27, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On to my husband who I see as a Karmic Soulmate:

His Juno in Virgo at 29d51
His Alma in Virgo at 28d03
My Sun in Virgo at 28d08
My 111111 in Sag at 28d49
His Pholus in Pisces at 29d28

His 111111 in Gemini at 17d28
His Psyche in Gemini at 19d51
My Northnode in Gemini at 19d41

His moon in Cancer at 6d51
My 131313 in Cap at 5d46
My Cupido in Cap at 4d03

His 131313 in Gemini @4d59
My Jupiter in Sag @5d15 (My chart Ruler)
My Uranus in Sag @5d42

Both my husband and I have 131313 and 111111 in our first houses....

In composite we have 131313 conjunct 111111 in pisces under 3d in the first house, Composite 111111 in the first is at the apex of a tsquare between Neptune opposite Priapus.

The frequency from the numbers 111111 I feel give the meaning to that asteroid and it would make sense it would be involve in soulmate relationship as 111111 is about the power of manifestation so it would be easy to draw such people into your life.

That is how I see it..

When I met my ex and other soulmate I was looking for a Valentine kind of love, I wanted to fall deeply in love and find my other HALF..

When I met my husband I was looking for a soulmate to marry who I can be happy with and won't give up on us...

You see the connection bt the power of manifestation that comes from 111111, what I was seeking when I met each soulmate and the synastry I have with each involving 111111??

I feel 111111 is a soulmate thing and also a law of attraction thing, it helps you draw the kind of soulmate you are seeking

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posted September 27, 2015 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! Finally found it doing something.

One of my dearest friends who's an obvious soulmate. We've got the 0º conjunction in composite at 21º Pisces.

No clue what that means. We're both very evolved. Our friendship (and, at one point, relationship) has always been genuinely loving and caring.

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posted September 27, 2015 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 111111 is exactly conjunct to the man I love's Saturn.
His 131313 falls exactly on my 12th house. Definitely karmic but twin flame? I highly doubt it.
In composite those asteroids are tighly conjuncting the Moon.

Again, I don't believe in TF anymore but I do believe in soulmates... Of any kind.

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posted September 27, 2015 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

I've never been a 'tarot' person, either; I respect it our of respect for those who practise it, and am very grateful for their talent and skill. But I've always been an astrologer, straight-up.

Heh. My 'current' twin flame? I'm convinced that, if there's somehow suddenly overwhelming evidence to disprove it -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- something that's as powerful as it was to 'prove' it -- then my twin is simply not here on this plane of existence.

I understand entirely why I've always felt the way that I have regarding my 'karmic soulmate' -- who still feels to me like a twin soul; a powerful catalyst that is part of the entire process.

But I get your scepticism, H. Completely. I began a thread a few days back, trying to begin to explain it the best way I know how. But I don't think I did a very good job of it.


Is like how could you be so sure if you were SOOO sure before and then decided you were wrong. I get it though and don't have a problem with the change of heart, I just feel you should be a little bit more humble about what you perceive as TF indicators or markers and understand that although you know a lot about this stuff, this is as you already know an area of ongoing research and IF you don't have a marker with your own TWIN it does not mean that it is not a marker. I feel you see yourself as the ultimate expert on TF stuff and yes you have a brilliant mind no argument there but you have self biases too and blinders as you are human and if an aspect does not confirm that you are a twin then you at times minimize it in your mind or dump it.

To be fair everyone does this including ME as is human nature is social psychology in the works but is good to mindful of it as much as possible.

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posted September 27, 2015 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
My 111111 is exactly conjunct to the man I love's Saturn.
His 131313 falls exactly on my 12th house. Definitely karmic but twin flame? I highly doubt it.
In composite those asteroids are tightly conjuncting the Moon.

Again, I don't believe in TF anymore but I do believe in soulmates... Of any kind.


Yeah I get that, I belief in soulmates for sure but TF is one of those things I keep an open mind about but I am never sure about it been a true thing. I feel is more of a fantasy but also think there is a genuine possibility is NOT. I guess I am agnostic when it comes to Twin Flames hoping that is real haha.

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posted September 27, 2015 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bear in mind, too, that this was iQ's research into them:

'Am looking into this, looks very very interesting in the study of "Mind Control"/Monarch Programming. 11-11-11, Hmmm.

13 x 13 x 13 is the alleged Matrix or Cube for creating "Altered States".

Could 11-11-11 point to the actual Programming Cube, beyond which the Person can Deprogram [12 x 12 x 12] and then attain Self Mastery [13 x 13 x 13] ?

Edit: Mathematically speaking, you may have made a breakthrough discovery for knowing whether or not a suspected MK-Ultra or Monarch Slave has indeed been programmed.'

Does anyone here have experience with, or an understanding of MKUltra and similar subprojects? Anything involving programming?

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