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Topic: Twin Flames, Soulmates and Asteroids 111111 & 131313
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 08:59 PM
So Neptune29 mentioned in another thread looking into asteroid 111111 and 131313 as twin flame markers so I am wondering how many of you have this active in your TF composite and synastries!I think it would be fun to check out and research if there is something to it. I will share a little bit of what I have found: Interesting, my 111111 squares my SUN-HORUS at 28d which trines my ALMA at 28d. 111111 also conjuncts my Neptune in the first under 3d. Last, 131313 conjuncts my Cupido. With my Ex who I have always suspected is my TF we have composite 131313-Moon-111111 conjunction and his 131313 conjuncts my ALMA and his Valentine conjuncts my 111111. With another soulmate we have composite Sun conjunct 111111. His Venus conjuncts exact my 111111 and his 111111 conjuncts my name asteroid, my kaali, my reiki and hygeia plus it squares my valentine. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 10:00 PM
Never did anything for me. I also ran it with several other charts of confirmed (or personally identifying) twins. Nada. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 10:06 PM
What's kind of interesting is that my 111111 is 0° conjunct his ANTEROS-MELETE, and 2° his VALENTINE-MADHATTER. You'd mentioned a VAL-11 connexion, H. Nothing's up with 131313, though. Same with composite. IP: Logged |
Neptune29 Knowflake Posts: 77 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 26, 2015 10:31 PM
Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot. Also checked your profile but your mail id is not available.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2619 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 26, 2015 10:42 PM
only this really:natally, my 111111 parallels my SN exact his 131313 parallels his lilith exact my lilith conjunct his 111111 exact my juno parallel his 131313 my pallas parallel his 131313 my 111111 contra parallel his pluto exact my 131313 parallel his SN exact, sun, venus, juno, eros
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 11:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: and 2° his VALENTINE-MADHATTER. You'd mentioned a VAL-11 connexion, H.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 11:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune29: Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot.
Are you saying they are guaranteed markers? IP: Logged |
Neptune29 Knowflake Posts: 77 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 26, 2015 11:40 PM
Yes, I think these are very prominent in case of soul mate connections. My husband who I feel is my karmic soul mate has His 111111 trines my sun,Mercury pallas, nessus and Juno exact.0 orbs His 131313 sextiles my ascendant and Pluto exact My 131313 trines his Jupiter and moon exact. My 111111 conjuncts his vertex exact The guy who I feel a TF connection has His 111111 and 131313 conjunction which is 0 degree in natal Semi squares my sun and Mercury 0 orb Opposites my moon 0 orb Conjuncts my Venus 1 orb Trines my mars and true node 1 orb My 111111 trines his Juno 1 orb My 131313 conjuncts his IC exact Let us try this.. Please keep the orb very tight 0-1 and only to planets not asteroids IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 26, 2015 11:59 PM
I buy that there might be a soulmate (especially karmic soulmate) connexion to these asteroids, but I'm not seeing it in twin flames. Interesting enough, I've got 131313 conjunct my karmic soulmate's CHIRON (0º). But nothing with 111111. At least, nothing of note. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 12:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune29: Yes Auby I don't think so they are guaranteed markers. IQ had also mentioned that these asteroids acts like a tarot. Also checked your profile but your mail id is not available.
He's actually said that all asteroids can be used in the same way that we use the tarot. Yes. That's true. Which is one of the reasons why asteroid usage is so personal, and even specific. Patterns will present themselves, and be so crucial in proper interpretation. IP: Logged |
Neptune29 Knowflake Posts: 77 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 27, 2015 12:07 AM
Thanks Auby got it. Please remove.IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7844 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2015 12:31 AM
I just checked and we have it prominently in the synastry with the two men in my life. My two soulmates.From the top of my head, we have with the first: 111111 conjunct 131313 exact His 111111 conjunct my Sun/oppose Venus My 131313 conjunct his Sun/ oppose Venus My 111111 conjuncts his IC exact With the second: My 111111 conjuncts his ASC and Sun exact His 111111 conjuncts my Alma-Juno-Saturn conj IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 12:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: He's actually said that all asteroids can be used in the same way that we use the tarot. Yes. That's true. Which is one of the reasons why asteroid usage is so personal, and even specific. Patterns will present themselves, and be so crucial in proper interpretation.
But the same can be said for planets, the way the energy of a planet manifests is also very personal and unique to each person. Regardless I don't personally like that comparison, I have always found astrology in general superior to tarots. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune29: Yes, I think these are very prominent in case of soul mate connections. My husband who I feel is my karmic soul mate has His 111111 trines my sun,Mercury pallas, nessus and Juno exact.0 orbs His 131313 sextiles my ascendant and Pluto exact My 131313 trines his Jupiter and moon exact. My 111111 conjuncts his vertex exact The guy who I feel a TF connection has His 111111 and 131313 conjunction which is 0 degree in natal Semi squares my sun and Mercury 0 orb Opposites my moon 0 orb Conjuncts my Venus 1 orb Trines my mars and true node 1 orb My 111111 trines his Juno 1 orb My 131313 conjuncts his IC exact Let us try this.. Please keep the orb very tight 0-1 and only to planets not asteroids
I think orbs can be kept up to 3d specially if you are talking about soulmates in general including karmic soulmates and not just TF. Also only including planets is kind of planetcentric, pluto was demoted to a dwarf and is considered a minor planet and asteroids are minor planets too. Further Juno, pallas, ceres among many others were discovered in the early 1800s and Pluto in 1930 so there are certain asteroids that I have found to be just as valuable as a planets or suspect they are and I would consider them for this for sure. That being said based on your personal preferences I will share this: I have in my chart 111111 squaring my SUN-HORUS both at 28d and in addition my Sun trines my ALMA at 28d.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: His 111111 conjuncts my Alma-Juno-Saturn conj
Love that you have ALMA-JUNO-SATURN. It's gotta be near mine. On the SGC? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: But the same can be said for planets, the way the energy of a planet manifests is also very personal and unique to each person. Regardless I don't personally like that comparison, I have always found astrology in general superior to tarots.
I think I got what he meant; or maybe I misinterpreted it? For me, it's the sense of, plug in what you perceive might be influential, and relevant. Then, pay close attention to what's already part of patterns, so that you can piece together what it all means. That's my idea of it. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I buy that there might be a soulmate (especially karmic soulmate) connexion to these asteroids, but I'm not seeing it in twin flames. Interesting enough, I've got 131313 conjunct my karmic soulmate's CHIRON (0º). But nothing with 111111. At least, nothing of note.
Well you have it with your current twin conjunct valentine by 2d which is tight enough and yes counts and Valentine is definitely very significant in my book, possibly more than Venus. With my EX: My 111111 in Sag @28d49 His Valentine in Sag @27d48 His Mars in Sag @26d24 My Neptune in Sag @26d31 His 131313 in Taurus @27d47 My alma in Taurus @28d11 In Composite: 131313 in Pisces @16d47 MOON in Pisces @18d51 111111 in Pisces @21d08 Venus in Virgo @22d47 With my ex lover: My 111111 conjuncts his VENUS at 28d In composite Mercury conjunct 111111 almost exact SUN conjunct 111111 by less than 2d In Davison Mars conjunct 111111 by 1d and an exact inconjunction between 111111 and VALENTINE which conjuncts Saturn and together they are at the apex of a composite LOVE YOD with an exact sextile between mars and venus. So including your OWN we have three VALENTINE aspect 111111 involving your current TF, and my TF candidates or important soulmates. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I think I got what he meant; or maybe I misinterpreted it? For me, it's the sense of, plug in what you perceive might be influential, and relevant. Then, pay close attention to what's already part of patterns, so that you can piece together what it all means.That's my idea of it.
I can relate to that yes...thanks. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 02:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I can relate to that yes...thanks.
I've never been a 'tarot' person, either; I respect it our of respect for those who practise it, and am very grateful for their talent and skill. But I've always been an astrologer, straight-up. Heh. My 'current' twin flame? I'm convinced that, if there's somehow suddenly overwhelming evidence to disprove it -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- something that's as powerful as it was to 'prove' it -- then my twin is simply not here on this plane of existence. I understand entirely why I've always felt the way that I have regarding my 'karmic soulmate' -- who still feels to me like a twin soul; a powerful catalyst that is part of the entire process. But I get your scepticism, H. Completely. I began a thread a few days back, trying to begin to explain it the best way I know how. But I don't think I did a very good job of it. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 02:31 AM
On to my husband who I see as a Karmic Soulmate:His Juno in Virgo at 29d51 His Alma in Virgo at 28d03 My Sun in Virgo at 28d08 My 111111 in Sag at 28d49 His Pholus in Pisces at 29d28 His 111111 in Gemini at 17d28 His Psyche in Gemini at 19d51 My Northnode in Gemini at 19d41 His moon in Cancer at 6d51 My 131313 in Cap at 5d46 My Cupido in Cap at 4d03 His 131313 in Gemini @4d59 My Jupiter in Sag @5d15 (My chart Ruler) My Uranus in Sag @5d42 Both my husband and I have 131313 and 111111 in our first houses.... In composite we have 131313 conjunct 111111 in pisces under 3d in the first house, Composite 111111 in the first is at the apex of a tsquare between Neptune opposite Priapus. The frequency from the numbers 111111 I feel give the meaning to that asteroid and it would make sense it would be involve in soulmate relationship as 111111 is about the power of manifestation so it would be easy to draw such people into your life. That is how I see it.. When I met my ex and other soulmate I was looking for a Valentine kind of love, I wanted to fall deeply in love and find my other HALF.. When I met my husband I was looking for a soulmate to marry who I can be happy with and won't give up on us... You see the connection bt the power of manifestation that comes from 111111, what I was seeking when I met each soulmate and the synastry I have with each involving 111111?? I feel 111111 is a soulmate thing and also a law of attraction thing, it helps you draw the kind of soulmate you are seeking IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 02:37 AM
Ah! Finally found it doing something. One of my dearest friends who's an obvious soulmate. We've got the 0º conjunction in composite at 21º Pisces. No clue what that means. We're both very evolved. Our friendship (and, at one point, relationship) has always been genuinely loving and caring. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 4209 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 27, 2015 02:46 AM
My 111111 is exactly conjunct to the man I love's Saturn. His 131313 falls exactly on my 12th house. Definitely karmic but twin flame? I highly doubt it. In composite those asteroids are tighly conjuncting the Moon.Again, I don't believe in TF anymore but I do believe in soulmates... Of any kind. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 02:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I've never been a 'tarot' person, either; I respect it our of respect for those who practise it, and am very grateful for their talent and skill. But I've always been an astrologer, straight-up. Heh. My 'current' twin flame? I'm convinced that, if there's somehow suddenly overwhelming evidence to disprove it -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- something that's as powerful as it was to 'prove' it -- then my twin is simply not here on this plane of existence. I understand entirely why I've always felt the way that I have regarding my 'karmic soulmate' -- who still feels to me like a twin soul; a powerful catalyst that is part of the entire process. But I get your scepticism, H. Completely. I began a thread a few days back, trying to begin to explain it the best way I know how. But I don't think I did a very good job of it.
Is like how could you be so sure if you were SOOO sure before and then decided you were wrong. I get it though and don't have a problem with the change of heart, I just feel you should be a little bit more humble about what you perceive as TF indicators or markers and understand that although you know a lot about this stuff, this is as you already know an area of ongoing research and IF you don't have a marker with your own TWIN it does not mean that it is not a marker. I feel you see yourself as the ultimate expert on TF stuff and yes you have a brilliant mind no argument there but you have self biases too and blinders as you are human and if an aspect does not confirm that you are a twin then you at times minimize it in your mind or dump it. To be fair everyone does this including ME as is human nature is social psychology in the works but is good to mindful of it as much as possible. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14580 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: My 111111 is exactly conjunct to the man I love's Saturn. His 131313 falls exactly on my 12th house. Definitely karmic but twin flame? I highly doubt it. In composite those asteroids are tightly conjuncting the Moon.Again, I don't believe in TF anymore but I do believe in soulmates... Of any kind.
Yeah I get that, I belief in soulmates for sure but TF is one of those things I keep an open mind about but I am never sure about it been a true thing. I feel is more of a fantasy but also think there is a genuine possibility is NOT. I guess I am agnostic when it comes to Twin Flames hoping that is real haha. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6734 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 03:03 AM
Bear in mind, too, that this was iQ's research into them:'Am looking into this, looks very very interesting in the study of "Mind Control"/Monarch Programming. 11-11-11, Hmmm. 13 x 13 x 13 is the alleged Matrix or Cube for creating "Altered States". Could 11-11-11 point to the actual Programming Cube, beyond which the Person can Deprogram [12 x 12 x 12] and then attain Self Mastery [13 x 13 x 13] ? Edit: Mathematically speaking, you may have made a breakthrough discovery for knowing whether or not a suspected MK-Ultra or Monarch Slave has indeed been programmed.' Does anyone here have experience with, or an understanding of MKUltra and similar subprojects? Anything involving programming? IP: Logged |