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sunflower-moon
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posted October 02, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Madonna & Sean Penn have a Saturn/NN square.

Sienna Miller & Jude law have a Saturn/NN square.

Prince William & Kate have Saturn/NN square double whammy even though they are a bit wide.

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posted October 02, 2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^Thanks
Madona and Sean recently re united. She said once that he is the only man she ever truly loved. I have to check their synastry.

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posted October 02, 2013 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrystratosphere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have actually thought of this before too and it makes complete sense, Saturn and Nodes, the two things that signify karma and karmic ties touching in synastry should be one hell of a powerful feel.

Although, I have no expereince with it, all the examples here are proof enough.

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posted October 03, 2013 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^^^A double layered karmic aspect, it seems, since both Saturn and the nodes tend to bind another planet to them in synastry, let alone if they are tied in an aspect together with each other.

Another couple added to the list :
Marie and Pierre Curie - considered soul mates.
Dang dang..... A tight Saturn - Nodes square in the synastry.

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posted October 03, 2013 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 03, 2013 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Saturn is not sexy or passionate - it's about duty and responsibility, the fear of not being dutiful and responsible, the physical existence and the concrete bonds that come from it. Anyone who says that is about hot sex and passion need their heads read.

Saturn and node contacts is simply teaching the node person about structure or responsibility somehow and being dutiful somehow to them. However, if node outgrows Saturn, Saturn will get left behind because they are then seen as restricting.

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posted October 03, 2013 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ Thanks for the lecture

We all had no idea!

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posted October 03, 2013 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:
If I remember correctly, they also have a Mars-Saturn conjunction, right?.

Yes.
Mars - Saturn- conjunction DW
Exact Venus-Saturn-conjunction
Wide Sun-Saturn-trine
Wide Venus-Saturn-trine
Jupiter-Saturn-trine

(the wide aspects are still only about 5 degrees)

It kinda makes sense though, Saturn rules my mum`s 7th and 8th house and my Dad`s 5th house.

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posted October 03, 2013 06:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Cer,
how is your synastry looking like with Jude? Its interesting to me because he obviously has a lasting impact on you without any personal interaction. What houses in your natal are affected by his chart? Is Neptune active? Any other karmic markers aside from Sat/South Node conj?

Orange,

yeah, and I donīt even LIKE him!
I guess it might have something to do with our natal charts mirroring each other in ways I have rarely seen. he must push some archetypical buttons.
But, since the dreams have stayed away for many months now, maybe I can hope that whatever internal process it was that needed to activated in me, maybe its done. To be honest I am not even particularly looking forwards to see him on stage, though I know he is a much better stage actor than on screen. However, Henry V? I will be bored out of my mind. How on earth did my friend get me to agree to see it so many times?

Anyway, as for your other questions.
Neptune, Puto, Karma, Nodes, BML - just take your pick!
It`s like someone before our birth said: Why settle for one mine-field?
Let`s try to build them all into two charts and see what happens (so it is maybe a good thing we didn`t cross each other`s paths. )


Here for the visuals

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Nastrovje!
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posted October 03, 2013 06:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sean Penn and Madonna have reunited?

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posted October 03, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^
I think it's mostly contained in his natal Sun/Pluto square on top of your MC tightly conjuncting your own Venus/Pluto square. The girl's ultimate love ( natal venus on pluto) meets the boy's masculine love ( a sun square pluto man), involving the 5th, 8th and the 12th house - love, lust and illusions ( or subconsciouse).

The Composite is whoa..such a nice cluster across the relationship axis

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posted October 04, 2013 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this also apply to Saturn/NN in the composite as well or only synastry?

I have composite Saturn conjunct NN with someone that I know I will always love no matter what...I hope its a mutual feeling with this aspect.

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posted October 05, 2013 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I have a double whammy saturn/south node conjunction in synastry and saturn/sn are also conjunct in composite. we have been married 30 years. The aspect is very binding imo, but I can also caution anyone who gets excited about a saturn/node aspect "be careful what you wish for", as karmic bonds can become a trap, just as much as they can offer the security of longevity in a relationship.

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posted October 05, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange I think you made a point! I saw in another thread Ami asking about saturn and obsession and before read that I felt saturn this way too since I have may aspects with it and I'm obsessed with the parts it touches in my chart. I guess we can relate saturn with obssesion because it acts like a "glue" in some way that you just can't let the other people go, so maybe in this perspective can the obsession become a passion? I think so

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posted October 17, 2015 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about inconjunct? Would this be considered a DW?

My Saturn leo@2.50
His NN pisces@2.12

My SN taurus@21.44
His Saturn taurus@21.53

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posted October 17, 2015 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted October 18, 2015 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intriguing, if you'd consider a 5š orb.

My ex-partner's SATURN is square my NODES. It can't really be opposite my CHIRON, however; orb's too wide for asteroids.

It is, of course, conjunct my MOON. I don't consider it square my NODES, however. 7š? I know, I know; karmic astrology would, but ... meh.

Though he and I are deeply karmic. And, as I've said -- I'm not sure if he'll ever completely go away. Though, he has been a bit nicer to me lately .... The civility is a nice change.

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posted October 18, 2015 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My nodes square my babydaddy ex's Saturn... his jupiter is also conjunct my North Node, so that's cool... I super appreciate what he's brought to my life overall that's for sure!

I had read that Saturn node squares never work, somewhere on these boards, some time ago...

I've come to understand it's more complex than whether it works out or not (obvs.)--and that this aspect certainly can denote a very powerful presence in the life, for good and ill... Saturn styles....

we did a lot of learning together that's for sure; it is ongoing. We'll always be connected, and really the connection and understanding deepens and intensifies with the years, though distance and perspective are totally healthy and needed..

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posted October 18, 2015 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents of 40 years together still have the conjunction and it's about less then 3 degrees in orb.

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posted October 18, 2015 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

I never saw your reply to me 2 years ago. Thank you. and just for the record, Henry V was so NOT boring, not even at the final of many times watching it.
And I think you are right about your interpretation, too.

Auby,

I would count the 5 degree orb for the square, esp. if there might be a DW, then it would come up in the composite as well.
Even if not, it might be, as you put it, at least "ambient".


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posted October 18, 2015 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by angel4845:
My parents of 40 years together still have the conjunction and it's about less then 3 degrees in orb.


Is it NN or SN and who is who?

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posted October 18, 2015 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure I mentioned it somewher ein the thread.

My parents have it, too. My Mom`s Saturn is exact on my Dad`s SN.

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posted October 18, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, does anyone know about south node parallel south node by 3orb? Thank you

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posted March 05, 2019 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 05, 2019 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this aspect really so powerful in synastry, more than nodes to personal planets/angles?

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