posted December 27, 2015 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm suddenly realising that my ex-producing partner's LILITH conjunct my MOON (1°) and part of his SATURN-SNODE-KARMA mess likely added to the rising tension which devolved into out-and-out war.

I want to say his DEJA is in that stellium, too. Which is even more trouble.

Doesn't help that it's all hanging out opposite his NNODE conjunct ALGOL.

Sexual obsession? Possible. I was surprised by the lengths to which he'd gone to play jealousy-motivated emotional games, focussed upon sexuality. But he never once admitted to it. Declared the total opposite, which made it very confusing, to say the least.

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Aubyanne,

I notice that too, "play jealous-motivated emotional games, focused upon sexuality. But he never once admitted to it. Declared the total opposite, which made it very confusing, to say the least." that is exactly what i notice as well.

posted December 27, 2015 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
My boyfriend's Sun is at 27 Taurus on my Lilith (the one with the funky glyph) at 27 Taurus. For some reason there were never any power struggles and there isn't an 'obsession' in the sense that I can't get my mind off of him. (Though we have spent every night and spare minute together since we started dating). I've had power struggles and obsession with BML-Sun or BML-anything, though..

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Selenite are you talking about lilith on the drop down menu on astro.com? I'm very curious

posted December 29, 2015 02:50 AM              

Which one is being mentioned please?

posted September 14, 2018 11:34 PM            

Someone else (I can't remember who to give credit to!) likened Lilith to a blend of Moon and Pluto. In my own experience, she can be vengeful like a Scorpio Moon, but she carries great depth and exceptional resilience and ability to overcome. She becomes indignant at being held down, held back. She is the point where you won't be defied.

posted September 15, 2018 04:05 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
IT indicates that who she is brings out the Lilith in you. It is not always sexual. But it is someone who ignites this inner fire in you.

Someone else (I can't remember who to give credit to!) likened Lilith to a blend of Moon and Pluto. In my own experience, she can be vengeful like a Scorpio Moon, but she carries great depth and exceptional resilience and ability to overcome. She becomes indignant at being held down, held back. She is the point where you won't be defied.

I think in our earlier days she can be hard to get a handle on and she very easily erupts as the lower side of Scorpio. But as we age, if we are lucky and work for it, we can hone her skills and allow her to work for us. Of course, it also depends on how she is interacting in your chart.

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Hey StoneMoon, hope you're well! Excellent explanation. Would you care to muse about Lilith conj. Moon in synastry?

posted September 15, 2018 07:30 AM            

I love Lilith and find her fascinating. Lilith moon would be a more emotionally based reaction in my opinion. So if it were a non romantic relationship, I would expect the Lilith person to be drawn out by the emotional nature of the Moon. If it were a positive contact, this could really nurture the Lilith person to uphold their beliefs and own their power in a good way. But if this connection is negative or immature, then it could bring out the ugly side of Lilith.

To me, Lilith is about injustice. She can't stand injustice! So if she is rubbed the wrong way, she will do whatever she can to undo the wrong. She can stoop to low levels and resort to vindictiveness. But if she is nudged in a positive way, she becomes empowered.

That's from her perspective. The moon person can respond in a variety of ways too. It depends on their emotional maturity and stability. That's why some people experience a nasty Lilith relationship and some don't. But the Moon person has a limited view , I think. They only know what they feel and then the Lilith person responds to that, so they don't see or "feel" why the person behaves how they do. And if Lilith misbehaves, they don't get it at all!

This would be my thought. I actually have experienced it a few times, and both the positive and the negative.

posted September 15, 2018 10:46 AM            

While I'm sure those traits can mingle with obsession they are not really intertwined by default.

posted September 15, 2018 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Hi Hieronymus!
Thank you, all is well here. I have really been enjoying your threads lately.

I love Lilith and find her fascinating. Lilith moon would be a more emotionally based reaction in my opinion. So if it were a non romantic relationship, I would expect the Lilith person to be drawn out by the emotional nature of the Moon. If it were a positive contact, this could really nurture the Lilith person to uphold their beliefs and own their power in a good way. But if this connection is negative or immature, then it could bring out the ugly side of Lilith.

To me, Lilith is about injustice. She can't stand injustice! So if she is rubbed the wrong way, she will do whatever she can to undo the wrong. She can stoop to low levels and resort to vindictiveness. But if she is nudged in a positive way, she becomes empowered.

That's from her perspective. The moon person can respond in a variety of ways too. It depends on their emotional maturity and stability. That's why some people experience a nasty Lilith relationship and some don't. But the Moon person has a limited view , I think. They only know what they feel and then the Lilith person responds to that, so they don't see or "feel" why the person behaves how they do. And if Lilith misbehaves, they don't get it at all!

This would be my thought. I actually have experienced it a few times, and both the positive and the negative.

What do you think about it based on your experience? Or are you experiencing it now?

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Thank you, I too have been enjoying my time a lot here. The community is really insightful and nice.

Yes, I am experiencing syn moon conj lilith now in a relationship. I mentioned this somewhere else today, but I read in a blog that while moon is the mother, Lilith is the anti-mother, which struck such a chord with me. I wonder if Lilith both enjoys and inverts the motherly, nurturing sides of the Moon when in conjunction? I am sure what I'm going to describe is supported by so many other insane situations going on with the charts of this particular relationship, but moon conj lilith here feels as if constantly negotiating what true nurture looks like is such an integral part of the relationship. Does nurture come from the mother (Moon) only? Or does Lilith educate and nurture all the same, but without the passive aggressive, sometimes suffocating climate of the moon? Does Lilith teach through crossing the wires a little bit, you know? Do both have something to learn from each other about how to navigate their own femininity?

I hope it doesn't sound completely off base, but I feel like Lilith against the Moon may be a negotiation of modes of femininity and the nature to "raise" someone. I believe most (if not all) romantic or sexual relationships involve the undercurrent of raising (if it's positive) or disciplining (if it's negative) the other. So I've been thinking much of today that Moon vs. Lilith in synastry in such close contact might bring one face to face with how nurture and discipline are so close to each other, and how easy it is to mistake one for the other.

I don't know. These were just a few momentary thoughts today. I'd love to hear any other experiences or thoughts...

posted September 16, 2018 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
HT,

I think that's a fantastic explanation of what you feel. I realy feel like Lilith experiences are very individual. I am biased bcs my Lilith conjuncts my Sun and opposes my Moon. So I have her activated every day, and most people I connect with are setting her off for me as well. And I have been forced on a daily basis my entire life to integrate her, lower and higher aspects.

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Just checked my natal to see I have sun trine Lilith. How do you experience your conjunction?