posted January 25, 2016 03:09 PM            

quote:

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then on 17th july 2018:
my pMoon conjunct his n DESC on 25°35 Virgo exact

and the week before on 10th july 2018:

his pMoon conjunct my n DESC on 07°04 Gemini exact

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^ Wow!! What an interval of time!

Currently coincidentally his pMoon at 1'51 Pisces, while my natal Desc at 3'52 Pisces.

Wow..

It's peak at the same day as that Cp Sun/Moon conjunction!

19 March 2016;

- His conv prog Sun 2'33 Aries
- My conv progr Moon 2'33 Aries

- His pMoon 3'53 Pisces
- My natal Desc 3'52 Pisces

1 minute (both applying by 2 deg now)

Well, that explains probably why he said he loved me x 4 when I called during half sleepwalking (I had the blurry courage in that state of mind ;D ) and missed me etc. Doesn't mean it's ON now, to be clear. Just a confirmation of what might happen during these progressions hehe. As paradoxical as it sounds I'm also glad it's financially almost impossible to see each other. But that's just me. Spoiled by the bitter pill of reality. The dream is immer better except for those moment I want a deep HUG (from him) while he misses me on his bench, being happy with the little things of life.

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Ed@

Also at that time;

My quotidian Asc: 29'19 Gem
His pMars: 29'37 Gem

posted January 25, 2016 04:10 PM            

Well the month they actually did move in together, the fullmoon was already separating by a few degrees, but of course still within the fullmoon phase

pr c-Sun 17°20 Aries
pr c-Moon 21°36 Libra

(the peak was 5 months prior to this, well, I do think that the actual lunar phase like fullmoon or new moon is really the beginning of that phase, and this is what might have been the preparing for the actual move).

posted January 25, 2016 04:12 PM            

yes, those are amazing.
I also think that it will never be just one isolated aspect alone, but there will be a pattern visible, some more things being in synch.

posted January 25, 2016 04:23 PM            

pr c-Sun 9°18 Cap
pr c-Moon 11°17 Aries

- so meeting during a first quarter moon phase, though it already had peaked about 2 months before.

When they got married

pr c-Sun 13°04 Capricorn
pr c-Moon 27°25 Taurus

- nothing on first glance, however on second glance there was an applying sesisquare of 0°39 between Sun and Moon.

For my best friend and her husband

when they got togeter

pr c- Sun 10°15 Sagittarius
pr c-Moon 11°28 Aquarius

- not a 4th harmonic phase, however again a separating aspect between Moon and Sun. Well in their case the startdate was hard to pin down: They "agreed" on this date. They knew each other for some years before, and sort of slid from a friendship into a relationship. (in fact the trigger was them rehearsing and training a dance performance together - to Alice Cooper`s "Poison" and that was when even my friend couldn`t deny their chemistry anylonger - her husband had been crushing on her for some years already, which she was unaware of, or wanted to be unaware of. lol)
Maybe the sextile indicates that soft transition from friends to lovers in this case.

When they got married

pr c Sun 13°51 Sagittarius
pr c Moon 26°00 Pisces

- well too wide, however the year before when it was just after its peak, that quarter Moon, they moved in together, so I think their wedding might have been more or less a formal act, but the actual union took place previously?

Another couple got together during a last quarter moon in their pr composite.

And they broke up during a New Moon, which is interesting as they are a both New Moon babies natally themselves. (the pr composite New Moon was also conjunct HER natal New Moon).

So I think, since they already had been together for many years, the "new" being planted during this phase for them as a couple, was going separate ways.
Alternatively they could have elevated the relationship to another level (maybe get married, move in together, have children etc.), well actually she did move in with him before, but apparently this didn`t work.
Possibly they had just reached the end of the road.

posted January 25, 2016 08:40 PM            

TOB's unknown. Although he seems to be sure his' must be around 3/4/5 am. Wouldn't surprise me if it's a Gem asc, as that's where his pMoon was during their marriage.

Taking 12 Noon for her, her pMoon conjunct his nSun by 1 deg! Quite amazing how fitting Nine's key seems to be. Ceri, what do you see in all those cases above when it comes to pMoon- to nSun (or asc) conjunctions? Can't imagine that I'm the only one running into these again & again.

posted January 26, 2016 02:30 AM            

I didn`t see even ONE conjunction of that sort in the above cases (and the relationships are long lasting, 40/ 16/ 10 years and ongoing).

What I did find however
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1) oppositions, and conjunctions to DESC
(along with squares and 8th harmonic aspects between Sun and Moon)

2) they seem to highlight rather a developmental process than useful as exact timers (orb)

3) all people had underlying natal progressions (8th harmonic aspects) of Moon-Sun or Moon-ASC/DESc

my parents
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I. meeting
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Dad individual:

pMoon applying conjunct to p Sun (1,5 years later, so not at all in orb at that time)

pMoon conjunct n Sun 2°24 s (2 months prior)

Mum individual:

pMoon applying sesisquare n Sun 3°44 a (3-4 months later

synastric

her pMoon sesisquare his n Sun 5°28 a - 5 months later
his pMoon square her n Sun 4°09 s - 4 months prior

II. marriage

Dad individual

pMoon conjunct n DESC 7°12 s (7 months prior

Mum individual

p Moon conjunct pASC 0°46 s

synastric:
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his pMoon opposite her nMoon 3°03 a (3 months later)

posted January 26, 2016 02:34 AM            

Meeting
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brother individual:

pMoon opposite p Sun 7°03 s (7 months prior)

gf individual:
pMoon square p Sun 11°11 a (11 months later)
pSun semisquare pASC 1°01

synastric
her pMoon square his pSun 0°45 a
his pMoon conjunct her nDESC 10°27a (10-11 months later)
his pMoon opposite her pSun 3°21 a (3 months later)

II. MOVING IN TOGETHER

brother individual:
pMoon conjunct nMoon 3°35 a
pMoon square nSun 6°42 a (6,5 months later)

gf individual:
pMoon square pASC 4°22 a (4 months later)
pSun semisquare pASC 0°12

synastric:
his pMoonc onjunct her pDESC 0°38 s
his pMoon sesisquare her pSun 0°50 s
her pMoon opposite his n Sun 11°36 a (about a year later)

III. BABY

brother individual:
pMoon square pASC 6°03 a (6 months later)
pMoon semisquare pSun 9°07 a (9 months later)

gf individual:
pMoon conjunct pDESC 8°30 a (8-9 months later)

posted January 26, 2016 02:38 AM            

GETTING TOGETHER

husband individual
pMoon conjunct n Sun 0°51a
pMoon conjunct nASC 4°47 s

friend individual
pMoon opposite nSun 9°42 a

synastric:
his pMoon square her n Moon 1°27 a
his pMoon conjunct her nDESC 3°31 s
his pMoon square her pSun 2°09 s

MARRIAGE

husband individual
pASC conjunct p Sun/Moon-mp 1°28 s
pMoon semisquare n Sun 1°48 s

friend individual
pMoon opposite pSun 4°37 s
pSun opposite n Moon 0°13 a

synastric
her pSun trine his n Moon 0°02s
her pMoon square his n Sun 7°00 s(7 months prior)
his pMoon sesisquare her pSun 0°36 a

posted January 26, 2016 09:34 AM            

The year later they were firmly introduced into each other`s families (my Dad brought my mom to his parent`s 25th anniversary).

posted January 26, 2016 09:34 AM            

The year later they were firmly introduced into each other`s families (my Dad brought my mom to his parent`s 25th anniversary).

on 24th may 1974 they got married, and in december that year I was born (yes, I was a 6th month-baby - and no, it as not a "must-marriage", my Mom would have taken care of me on her own, if my Dad had been an ******* , luckily he was not, but her match in every kind of term. lol

posted January 26, 2016 10:58 AM            

I think those individual progressions are a MUST (as backdrop) at the time of the start of a relationship that will have a lasting effect. You need to be in the right "relationship-frame". There might be different ways how that can be, but I suspect progressed aspects between luminaries and angles are probably of key-significance.

I think I had a thread on this before about relationship cycles, I will bump it I think.

Anyway on top of that there will be progressed synastry also involving some interrelation of the luminaries (including nodes) and the angles - hypothetically speaking at least. does not need to be a conjunction of MOon to Sun or ASC. As we see it can also be an opposition or Moon to Desc, maybe also ASC to DESC? With some other planet on the angles? especially venus or Mars?

I am also not completely clear as to how close the orbs need to be. As it seems from the relationships I checked, the lunar phase is more or less a process, and hence comes with larger orbs.

However if we turn to the composite / progressed composite (but with secondary progressed angles of course, not quotidian, those are more equipped for event-timing, not for the longer last ing processes the secondary progressed angles indicate) the orbs seem to be rather precise.

In fact I wouldn`t be surprised if it is in the composite that i will find the strongest aspectual relations (as they are sort of a summary and result of the synastry).

posted January 26, 2016 10:16 PM            

(Had no idea you were a premature baby btw, that's special / or do I read it wrong?)

25-8-'71;

His
Cp Sun - 13'19 Cap
Cp Moon - 12'29 Cancer

Hers
Cp Sun - 13'53 Libra
Cp Moon - 13'40 Cap

Wow! ^

posted January 27, 2016 12:00 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:

(Had no idea you were a premature baby btw, that's special / or do I read it wrong?)

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No, it means my mom was already 3 months pregnant when they got married.

(though I was actually due on 21st/ 22nd december, and decided to be born 3 days early, so I could be a Sag. )

posted March 10, 2016 12:45 PM            

quote:

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19 March 2016;

- His conv prog Sun 2'33 Aries
- My conv progr Moon 2'33 Aries

- His pMoon 3'53 Pisces
- My natal Desc 3'52 Pisces

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So, as We've seen, This ^ can also mean a Break, a THE-END.

I'm soo amazed by the Sabian of our con prog luminary pairing at 2-3 Aries this month;

~ Or better and originally named (io Sabian) *IN-SIDE DEGREE* {my new love~!} ~

ARIES 3
The outer casing of the Great Pyramid being removed.
Candor, stark naked honesty. Getting rid of all false coverings, going for what counts. You are sharply intent upon getting at the truth and staying on the truth. Self-disclosure. An extraordinary aptitude for reality, you are the world's most direct person, willing to be seen and known unequivocally. The jackhammer treatment. Blunt, brutal, and straightforward. Devoid of charm or grace, but right on the mark, gutsy and truly incorrigible.

--

It was the 1st guy in 20 years who did give me a feeling of 'coming home' and 'this is what I want' and I'm sure I would've blindly kept him (years ago) but the naked truth calls too loudly these days. Getting rid of any false covering is getting rid of any man I'm afraid. Let us pray for impermanence.

Those l o v e l y Inside degrees; http://aquaorfire.net/astrology/inside_degrees/inside_degrees.html#aries3

posted January 05, 2017 07:52 AM            

remember my last quarter Moon in february 2016?
and the peak of the Sun-Venus-conjunction in september?

We can give that a check-mark.Both actually.
Absolutely delivered. lol

Not down to the day, but to the month however.

BTW Sabian of the Sun-Venus-conjunction was/is:

Telephone Lineman At Work Installling New Connections

posted January 06, 2017 06:18 AM            

Yess I remember!

Is there something more to tell.. telephone man?? ;d

It's funny cause I visited this thread some days ago several times.. back into the conversed realm!

WE (that one I talked about above).. yea it's over between us, very recently. But.. NOT over as "friends" (I had no idea I was capable of being 'just friends' so quickly).
He didn't want to lose me either on that (friend) level, almost unbearable for both (although yes.. we're in the 1st stage of it). I can even see the big advantage of it all. He's totally in love with this new girl (I started a thread about their syna/compo weeks ago on which todd and faith replied) and he will probably meet her THIS WEEKEND for the 1st time! Ooooww I'm so curious
He shares everything about her.. and I love to listen, also from an astrological point of view ofcourse ;D

But well... now things are all-of-a-sudden drastically changing between us in a GOOD way ('friends' is really THE solution for both our heavily fixed NATAL luminary natures) ... at this right-now-moment between us:

In the CONVERSED progressed COMPOSITE;

- Sun 12'54 Taurus
- Moon 13'02 Aqua

^ lol, minutes applying right now.

(underlying geometry: him having the square 3 deg applying there, and me 3 deg separating).

posted January 06, 2017 06:51 AM            

"Is there something more to tell.. telephone man?? ;d"
Well, I recently learned that I should not share my informations so much, they tend to get twisted, misrepresented and used as personal attacks.

Seriously though, I`ve had a pretty good time lately, being at the receiving end of attention, appreciation etc.

It made me smile though, I had forgotten about my conv. progression, but just the month it peaked, P singled me out in a live video of his (caused me to almost fall off my chair. lol) and basically told me he loved me.
Just friendly/ casually/ of course. though now thinking about it, in the last months the subject of "love" has come up quite a bit. Cautiously/ casually/ humorously of course, though the last time we met and he was singing this selfwritten song to me, felt a tad emotional/intense. I mean we are basically just aquaintances. And I wouldn`t make too much of a story out of it, but yes, it was a rather emotional/melancholic song, and at the end of it we both had tears in our eyes, and when my friend and me told him goodbye, he just jolted up and hugged us. Well he first hugged me and then her as well, but I was quite surprised by that. Maybe he was himself I donīt know.
It`s just our interaction changed so much, maybe it`s just me, not trying to hide so much anymore, and he just takes the chance of direct communication. I don`t know. But it was rathr sweet.
BTW the hugging-incedence happened one day before my birthday and right on the day of my Solar Return, so that eventchart was basically my Solar Return chart (not angles of course).

Hmm, maybe I should check the converse progressions for that, too?

or do you remember the quotidian composites you suggested?

BTW the eventchart of when he was hugging me had ASC on 27 Gemini which put his Sun-Moon-MC, my Sun-Mercury, our composite Sun right on the DESC. LOL (and most exactly his Sun/Moon-mp).

As I said I wouldn`t make too much of a story of it, but it was nice, surprising and shows me just how far our interaction has evolved from the time when I wasn`t even sure I could say "Hi" to him. lol

I`d say we are in a good place, have a nice communicative level and he probably likes me a bit more than the usual fan. lol (well my aquaintance was completely startled by his behaviour, and was always asking me since when he was being so "cuddly". Well I don`t know, he apparently isn`t like that when she talks to him without me around. I can only talk about the times I was present too, and to me he`s always been extra attentive, though the last months have been a bit crazy in this regard.

so I thought maybe the Sun-Venus-conjunction in my converse progressions made me simply gain attention?

". yea it's over between us, very recently. But.. NOT over as "friends" "
Not sure I should say I am sorry or congratulate you to be honest.

"e's totally in love with this new girl "
Are you okay with this? Or does it hurt much? Or are you actually relieved you are only friends now?

"But well... now things are all-of-a-sudden drastically changing between us in a GOOD way "
I am glad to hear that. And yes, it makes sense to my Aqua Moon. lol

"In the CONVERSED progressed COMPOSITE;

- Sun 12'54 Taurus
- Moon 13'02 Aqua"

Wow!

I really should check ours! lol

posted January 06, 2017 07:31 AM            

° cpSun 13°26 Scorpio
cp Venus 13°22 Scorpio
- 4 minutes separating

° cpIC 20°46 Aqua
cp BML 19°47 Aqua

° cp Moon 2°07 Leo
n Uranus 1°21 Scorpio
- I find it interesting though that my cp Moon is applying to our composite DESC on 1°22 Leo

his converse progressions

° cpSun 19°28 Scorpio
n Valentine 19°36 Scorpio

° cp MC 24°04 Scorpio
n Uranus 23°24 Scorpio
- 40 minutes applying

° cp Moon 28°10 Leo
cp Vertex 29°11 Leo
cp Mars 26°32 Leo

- well that means Moon had just separated from the conjunction to Vertex and heading towards Mars
- also means that in about 9 months he is going to have a Quarter Moon (another baby on the way? )

° cp Mercury 5°09 Sag
cp NN 5°28 Virgo

° cp Venus 9°56 Sag
n Mercury 9°23 Sag

- funny enough my natal Neptune: 9°56 Sag

so his cp Venus was PRECISELY conj. my Neptune,w ell I guess that makes sense. (it is now heading towards my ASC and after that Mars).

° cpASC separating from squaring cpPluto by 28 minutes

as for our composite

° cpASC 13°39 Sag
cpNeptune 13°44 Sag
- so by 5 minutes separating.

This one is interesting, of course it can point to delusions of grandeur. lol
But it is also a manifestation of my natal, and I think one reason he appreciates me and esp. that day is also because I sort of "get" him creatively.
I mean it`s sometimes like I can finish his sentences or verbalize what he does NOT say, or just sense when he is dodging an issue or just understand what he means despite him following his mindleaps. lol
And with the song, it was like on an emotional level I understood, but I cannot really put it into words. Also cause I do not really trust my instincts.
I think however that this mental connection might have to do with my Neptune exact on his Mercury as well.

° cp Sun 16°27 Scorpio
cp Juno 16°37 Taurus
n MC 16°38 Scorpio
n MC 16°38 Taurus

- how funny, we are just having Juno on IC. lol

But of course there is also

° cp Sun 16°27 Scorpio
cp Moon 15°08 Leo
- so a quarter Moon taking place, about 6 months after Moon had passed Saturn. interesting.

also during the incidence I talked about, Tr Moon was at 15 Leo. lol

of additional note

n Pallas 16°45 Aqua
n West Point 16°05 Aqua

° cpMars trine n (c) ASC by one minute appr.

° cp NN conjunct n Mars by 9 minutes applying

° cpVertex opp. n Moon by 1,5 degrees and heading towards Moon/Venus-mp and then Venus.
and of course applying to square the composite Nodal axis (0°47 appling - so I guess hitting in about 9 months).

I am sure I forgetting some lol