posted February 21, 2016 02:43 PM            

this sucks so much!

I mean, rejection is bad, but what I have come to believe is much worse if there is mutual attraction present, but somehow it is not enough (because one party decides it is not).
But maybe he comes to his senses eventually. I hope so for you.

BTW
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

When I first read it I was crying SOOO much (and back then I didn`t relate it to Mr Sag at all)
It really hit some core in me.

posted February 21, 2016 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mar,

this sucks so much!

I mean, rejection is bad, but what I have come to believe is much worse if there is mutual attraction present, but somehow it is not enough (because one party decides it is not).
But maybe he comes to his senses eventually. I hope so for you.

BTW
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

When I first read it I was crying SOOO much (and back then I didn`t relate it to Mr Sag at all)
It really hit some core in me.

it`s about the synastry of Saturn-Neptune though

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posted February 21, 2016 02:51 PM            

The process is long, tedious and sometimes a little bumpy, but something really great can evolve from it, the merging of the spiritual (Neptune) and the physical world (Saturn).

posted February 21, 2016 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Plus for all complications inherent in Saturn-Neptune, this is the very aspect that represents dissolving (Neptune) boundaries and too much rigidity (Saturn) and manifesting your dreams (Neptune) into reality (Saturn).

The process is long, tedious and sometimes a little bumpy, but something really great can evolve from it, the merging of the spiritual (Neptune) and the physical world (Saturn).

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Do you think that this dissolution that you mentioned is maybe the "cause" for feeling unconditional love???? Or is it my imagination that I thought this fits exactly to what you described? lol

posted February 21, 2016 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The Neptune-Saturn-square alone looks rather difficult and complicated, especially as it involves pretty much all love houses for him.

Saturn in 5th house, ruling 8th
Neptune in 7th house, ruling 11th

Seems he has a real block and some confusion going on what it is he really wants, even recognize when his love is being reciprocrated (11th house ruler square Saturn for example)

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posted February 21, 2016 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yeah

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posted February 21, 2016 02:57 PM            

You thanked me there so I'll say, you're so welcome, Mar. And....

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
And as matter of fact, aster some reading I thought that this saturn- mercury trine is really important after all, as it is my saturn (chart ruler) trining his mercury (chart ruler)!!!!

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posted February 21, 2016 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yeah

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posted February 21, 2016 03:02 PM            

his Saturn 7 Virgo

his Venus 13 Pisces
my Jupiter 11 PIsces
(my Juno 16 Pisces)

my Venus 6 Cap

my Neptune 10 Sag

And then there is of course Jude Law

his Venus 13 Sag
my Neptune 10 Sag
my NN 10 Sag

his Saturn 15 Gemini
my Karma 16 Gemini

my MOon 17 Aqua

my Juno 16 Pisces

my Satrn 17 Cancer

(in fact my Saturn is on the exact antiscion of his Venus.)

So yeah, hey let`s talk karma here. lol

posted February 21, 2016 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Is this confusion in him somehow linked with his natal yod with sun as apex (and his mercury nearby)-moon(leg)-jupiter(leg) and his mars again nearby??
I really thought this has to do with it till you pointed out the saturn-neptune aspect!

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I think the yod enables him to value himself, but perhaps he doesn't think he is good "relationship material"...or he is unwilling to be.

See what I mean? He might think he's just fine as a self-sufficient type. Actually 7H Neptune + Pisces Venus + Cancer moon could be highly romantic, but I think Saturn square Neptune puts up barriers. I feel like he is going to be very picky about who he settles down with, if he ever does. Just my guess.

posted February 21, 2016 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
oh man, Mar, that sounds really awful.
Seems he has got to sort his own personal issues urgently.

Well I can relate somehow, as I know that my issues really were the biggest obstacle for me and sometimes still are, but i am working on them

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Here is his natal chart

posted February 21, 2016 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think the yod enables him to value himself, but perhaps he doesn't think he is good "relationship material"...or he is unwilling to be.

See what I mean? He might think he's just fine as a self-sufficient type. Actually 7H Neptune + Pisces Venus + Cancer moon could be highly romantic, but I think Saturn square Neptune puts up barriers. I feel like he is going to be very picky about who he settles down with, if he ever does. Just my guess.

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posted February 21, 2016 03:13 PM            

I think I saw that video before, the Jasmine one. Can't describe it...to me, it's remarkable how he projects emotion...not a lot of people can do that and reach me. Like he puts out not just vibes but literal VIBES, the shaky kind.

He looks better now, maybe because of your taking care of him all these years.

And he re-posted that recently? So odd.

posted February 21, 2016 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That`s nunsense, if he wants to resolve the issues, he can do that, nothing to do with age.
In fact the Yod can give him a good start. It is a lovely Yod with Moon-Jupiter-Sun. Sun opposing Moon/Jupiter, a generous, caring, emotional stable man or even husband. That is what is inside of him, but with the Yod he has to work to get there.
It`s his choice though, if he wants to keep his head in the sand or look around and start owning his issues and work on them!

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"That`s nunsense, if he wants to resolve the issues, he can do that, nothing to do with age. "
Yes, I tend to believe that as well. This thing about age is something I wonder, he never said that. But sometimes I get frustrated and wonder if he actually can, wondering about maybe it's late, do you see what I mean?

"a generous, caring, emotional stable man or even husband. "

Do you believe that my moon involved in his yod is the reason why I seem to actually see that???

Sometimes, after learning about his yod etc., I just thought "If only I had one planet opposing his yod apex!!! Thaaat was close!" But not close enough I suppose lol

posted February 21, 2016 03:22 PM            

"I think I saw that video before, the Jasmine one"
Funny enough, I`ve been thinking of it today or yesterday. Not even a real conscious thought, it just was fleeingly in my mind, actually more in the sense of the Easter-thing, the searching for Jesus in the caves, done by Maria Magdalene. It will always be mindboggling to me how I can acutally have a VISUAL of this!
To remember something that might not even have happened, and if it does, to someone else, and literlaly thousands of years ago!!!

Anyway this version of the song has to me the magical property of transporting me to that moment in the garden (of which I curiously also have a visual memory, though it is a different one than portrayed in the films).

I am very imaginative. lol

". Can't describe it...to me, it's remarkable how he projects emotion...not a lot of people can do that and reach me. Like he puts out not just vibes but literal VIBES, the shaky kind."
I am so glad you can feel it, too.

Well of course he did not react to my post in anyway. Why would he?

"He looks better now, maybe because of your taking care of him all these years. "
LOL I thought so, too. How much better he looks nowadays, in fact we both do I think.

And it is just so curious to me, as we both started literally just one month off each other to have the idea to lose weight, I remember I saw him on the concert 2 weeks after I enrolled with WEight Watchers, and he was mentioning losing weight himself, too (though he started I think a week or two before me and did not have to lose THAT much as I did).
I always thought it was a curious thing.

"And he re-posted that recently? So odd."
He reposted it TODAY. about 2 hours ago. lol

posted February 21, 2016 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

"That`s nunsense, if he wants to resolve the issues, he can do that, nothing to do with age. "
Yes, I tend to believe that as well. This thing about age is something I wonder, he never said that. But sometimes I get frustrated and wonder if he actually can, wondering about maybe it's late, do you see what I mean?

"a generous, caring, emotional stable man or even husband. "

Do you believe that my moon involved in his yod is the reason why I seem to actually see that???

Sometimes, after learning about his yod etc., I just thought "If only I had one planet opposing his yod apex!!! Thaaat was close!" But not close enough I suppose lol

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lol you can always ask Faith if she lends you her ASC.

Anyway your Moon on one leg of the Yod could actually mean you bring it to his awareness and might even trigger him working it out, if he is ready to do that, of course. Still his choice.

posted February 21, 2016 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

lol you can always ask Faith if she lends you her ASC.

Anyway your Moon on one leg of the Yod could actually mean you bring it to his awareness and might even trigger him working it out, if he is ready to do that, of course. Still his choice.

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posted February 21, 2016 03:42 PM            

I just saw that!!!

"So yeah, hey let`s talk karma here. lol"

posted February 21, 2016 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
how about progressions? Something nearing the Apex of the Yod, or the opposing point? That might give a bit of a window of opportunity.

(I could lend you my pr Sun on 7 Aqua at least. lol)

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Thank you for your offer lol!!

I don't think that I have.
I have progressed Vesta in 13 51 Aqua, but I think it's too wide and then I have pr. Venus in 14 29 Leo, again too wide