posted February 21, 2016 05:04 PM            

Interestingly my Moon had just progressed into Taurus that week, and the days following meeting him my pr Sun was progressing into Aquarius. I met him literally on the verge of this transition.

In the first meeting chart, of course Tr Pallas on 00 Taurus was also making a Grand trine with

Moon 1 Cap
Pluto 00 Cap
and
Saturn 2 Virgo

with Pluto conjunct his n Moon - MC on 28 Sag and my n Vesta on 1 Cap (and Sun/Venus-mp and Mercury/Venus-mp, and his Mercury/Venus-mp as wel, as they are conjunct)

and

posted February 21, 2016 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
BTW, about this thing we talked earlier about self-value, I think it has to do with the bunch of his planets in your 1st house, too!
What do you think?

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Yes, I think you are right, I mean I know about Sun and Mercury in 1st house and Neptune as I have it myself, but his Moon in my 1st house? That is new.
It is so weird, but it always seems like the spotlight is directed onto me whenever he is around. It`s a bit difficult to hide from him. though.
The whole invisible-thing (my neptune-ASC usually does) just never worked with him.

posted February 21, 2016 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
anyway I gotta go to bed now. Have a good night and thanks for the talk.

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posted February 22, 2016 07:30 AM            

next stop:
checking (orb: 0°15)

EVC-midpoints
EVC to natal midpoints
Transit to natal midpoints
Transit to composite midpoints (of the two people in question)

Why only 15 minute orb?
to be able to manage the overflow of information.

Also Bernadette Brady stated in her book on progressions and transits that for transits (and also progressons) the orb of 12 minutes applying and separating is the "peak moment" of a development (of course slightly larger orb, especially applying will be felt, too).

posted February 22, 2016 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
note to myself:

next stop:
checking (orb: 0°15)

EVC-midpoints
EVC to natal midpoints
Transit to natal midpoints
Transit to composite midpoints (of the two people in question)

Why only 15 minute orb?
to be able to manage the overflow of information.

Also Bernadette Brady stated in her book on progressions and transits that for transits (and also progressons) the orb of 12 minutes applying and separating is the "peak moment" of a development (of course slightly larger orb, especially applying will be felt, too).

I thought 15 minutes applying and separating is a nice figure, no real reason, actually. (in terms of Sun-transits for example this orb of 15 minutes applying and 15 minutes separating, so 30 minutes alltogether, reflects half a day, so 6 hours before the exact moment, 6 hours afterwards. for Moon actually a larger orb would make more sense, as 30 minutes (15 applying, 15 separating) is equivalent of half and hour before and half an hour after the exact moment. 1 degree applying and separating is totally THERE as well, as it reflects 2 hours before and 2 hours after, that is about the timespan of the concert)

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Oh, I see, that's interesting. I ll look into that, thanks!

Ok, as for the EVC's planets to his natal midpoints we' ve got only two in 0 15' orb lol
1) neptune 0 29 aqua opposit pluto/chiron in 0 20' leo
2) in the "progressed" EVC, with my sun as the evc's Asc., the "progressed" Asc in 0 38' Leo is on his pluto/chiron 0 28' Leo.

I can't say I understand much of what these two mean lol

As for my EVC's planets to my midpoints, there are a lot more (apparently, as I was more emotionally involved ) :

1) EVC'S Moon in 10 22 Leo on my mars/chiron in 10 28' Leo
2) EVC's Moon on my pluto/chiron in 10 33' leo
3) EVC's Mars in 8 39' scorpio oon my saturn/uranus in 8 36' scorpio
4) EVC's Saturn in 15 56' Scorpio on my Jupiter/uranus 16 03' Scorpio

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finally, what I discussed with Faith and I think it was major
5) EVC's Pholus in 20 29' Aqua opposite my S/M midpoint in 20 43' leo.

posted February 22, 2016 08:56 AM            

My Saturn is tightly square my husband's Neptune and we listen to a lot of classical music.

I guess I can see why that aspect would like it.

The reason your man's square appears to affect his relationships is, Neptune is in the 7H.

You girls were joking earlier about lending and borrowing placements....so weird...I had been thinking, "If only Ceri could lend Mar her Jupiter!"

Because I think Pisces Jupiter would complete that t-square nicely. Because Jupiter rules his DSC and he has Pisces Venus.

posted February 22, 2016 09:00 AM            

Yes this thing about borrowing placements was hilarious indeed

Apparently, my progr. IC/MC in 22 Gem/Sag is completing his T-square, but I guess with his Neptune on my pr. MC (and my pr. Neptune close) isn't very good after all :/

Oh, now that you mentioned your Saturn sq. Neptune in your synastry, how do you think it manifests in your case? If you want to tell me of course!

posted February 22, 2016 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes, I think you are right, I mean I know about Sun and Mercury in 1st house and Neptune as I have it myself, but his Moon in my 1st house? That is new.
It is so weird, but it always seems like the spotlight is directed onto me whenever he is around. It`s a bit difficult to hide from him. though.
The whole invisible-thing (my neptune-ASC usually does) just never worked with him.

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posted February 22, 2016 09:09 AM            

This is where I'm just an amateur. I don't have much experience with that & haven't paid much attention.

Not sure about Saturn sq. Neptune synastry. I probably interfere with his dreams....he wanted one kind of family (strictly traditional, conservative, perfectly behaved children) and I have created for us a different kind of family (modern, fun, creative children with their own minds.) Sometimes I wish they behaved better but I'm not going to instill in them the fear of God to accomplish that.

posted February 22, 2016 01:42 PM            

"Do you have a Kite in your synastry? Involving your Venus, his Mars and Jupiter, his Chiron and your Jupiter and Ceres?"
Yes, I count it, even though Venus is a bit far out in orb, but his Chiron on 9 Taurus might pull it in somehow.

his Mars 11 Virgo
his Jupiter 10 Virgo
his Amor 9 Virgo
his name in his chart 10 Virgo

his Chiron 9 Taurus

my Venus 6 Cap
(also my Spirit-Guinevere 10 Cap, his Arthur 11 Cap)

my Ceres 9 Pisces
my Jupiter 11 Pisces
my name in his chart 9 Pisces
his Eros 8 Pisces

It`s a lovely kite, and actually the arrow is being shot at my Jupiter-Ceres on his Eros (and my name in his chart). I like that.

At the current time frame his Venus is progressing there as well (as of now it is 10°22 Pisces)

"Secondly, how about his Uranus in your 12 th house? Do you think this might play a role in you not finding him boring? Meaning the originality and fascination of Uranus in a "deep" house such as the 12th? "
Never thought about it. But yes, it does make a lot of sense. His Uranus is also opening up the house (being close to the cusp) and in fact we have his Odysseus-Valentine conjunct my Penelope on my 12th house cusp as well, with his Uranus being there.

Uranus in my own chart is unaspected, but exactly conjunct 11th house cusp, so it makes sense that it would be important and somehow a bit like a maverick.
Uranus rules the 12th house in HIS chart, so again, interesting occurrence that he puts his Uranus into the very house in my chart, it rules in his own chart. Hmmm, never thought about that, but seems significant.

Also his Uranus has been playing with my progressions for the last years, first it was the squrae to my pr Venus, and now the thing left is squaring my pr Mercury, whihc is a very long lasting progression, due to my pr MErcury nearing its station and soon turning retrograde, so this pr MErcury (in Aquarius) will be square his Uranus for a while longer.

Interestingly on the day of the concert my quotidian progression (the true angles) has ASC on 22°56 Taurus, so my quotidian DESC will fall near his n Uranus and my quotidian MC on 24 Cap will be near his n Venus.

(and in my daily Age harmonic chart harmonic Uranus will conjunct my n DESC by just 13 minutes)

"Finally, his Mars and Jupiter squaring your Nodes seems important to me, too."
Yes it is.
the square of his Jupiter to my nodes is totally precise. 0°00 orb, so no orb at all.
and his Jupiter (and my NN) is in his Sun/Uranus-mp with only one minute of orb; my NN is conjunct his Sun/Uranus midpoint, his Jupiter squares it.

The Mars is also important because we have actually a DW (my Mars is more widely squyare his nodes as well, 3°47) - this leads to our composite having Mars conjunct the NN (2-3 degrees) coupled with Amor and Cupido exact on the composite NN as well, and the NN being conjunct Mars/Pluto-mp (1°35), as Pluto is also widely conjunct the NN with about 5 degrees, so Pluto and Mars frame it, Definitely something to think about. lol

But anyway yes, his Mars-Jupiter squaring my Nodes is certainly significant.
There is a lot of aspects and dynamic with his Mars anyway, he seems to be quite active in the synastry:

square ASC 4°04
square NN 0°56
square Neptune 1°09
opposite Jupiter 0°06
opposite Ceres 1°28
trine Venus 4°58

(and as of now his pr Venus is moving into an opposition to his n Mars, it is at 0°42 applying presently, and therefore the pr Venus is gaining all the same aspects as well, at least those with about 1 degree orb, just from the other side of the zodiac)

I honestly can say I`ve never met any other guy whose Mars my planets were aspecting that dynamically. lol

posted February 22, 2016 01:54 PM            

Anyway age harmonics for any given year can actually be read like a solar return, and work also in synastry, to see how you respond to each othr during the year, so I thought it would be interesting to do an Age harmonci synastry for this year for him and me.

Anyway while there is more than this one aspect, it did strike me, that my Age harmonic Venus this year is at 11°09 Virgo, pretty much precisely on his n Mars on 11°05 Virgo. lol

posted February 22, 2016 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW as a little detour....
speaking of Age harmonics, well I personally can even check the daily age harmonics with my solar fire, however astro.com only has the option of age harmonics for the year, but they work quite reliably (they did for my parents as well, as they got married when my Dad`s age harmonic Venus was exactly conjunct my Mom`s n NN-MC, plus they had some Sun-DESC and Venus-Sun in the age harmonics of that year if I remember it rightly).

Anyway age harmonics for any given year can actually be read like a solar return, and work also in synastry, to see how you respond to each othr during the year, so I thought it would be interesting to do an Age harmonci synastry for this year for him and me.

Anyway while there is more than this one aspect, it did strike me, that my Age harmonic Venus this year is at 11°09 Virgo, pretty much precisely on his n Mars on 11°05 Virgo. lol

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Age Harmonics are the ones that we can find in astro, in the option harmonics, by putting our age in the date? Are they so significant? Oh, I didn't know!!! Thanks!

posted February 22, 2016 03:00 PM            

Orbs are 1 degree (approximately at least), and angles move so fast that the birthtime has to be very exact.

I pay most attention to conjunction, opposition and square, but will also consider a trine when it is pretty much the closest aspect in the chart, or part of a Grand trine.

We check the chart itself and in relation to the natal chart (in synastry we can compare Age harmonic to Age harmonic and to natal).
I do think however there has to be some links to the natal for it to manifest. In fact I think there must be close conjunctions (maybe squares) to the angles for it to be activated (possibly Sun is enough too).

posted February 22, 2016 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, you put your age into the box for harmonics. I am 41 years old, so I am making 41st harmonic.

Orbs are 1 degree (approximately at least), and angles move so fast that the birthtime has to be very exact.

I pay most attention to conjunction, opposition and square, but will also consider a trine when it is pretty much the closest aspect in the chart, or part of a Grand trine.

We check the chart itself and in relation to the natal chart (in synastry we can compare Age harmonic to Age harmonic and to natal).
I do think however there has to be some links to the natal for it to manifest. In fact I think there must be close conjunctions (maybe squares) to the angles for it to be activated (possibly Sun is enough too).

If your Age harmonic sun is conjunct your Draco Sun, maybe that is a good year for you to explor and figure out which way your Sun should develope and grow for you to feel completely YOU.

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Thank you so much!!!!
Does this count from birthday to birthday, for example I am 33 and a half lol
So, my age harmonic shows what happened/will happen from my birthday last year to my birthday this year?

Last question, sorry again
The orb is always 1, I mean inside the harmonic, harmonic to natal and synastry? Thanks a lot

posted February 22, 2016 03:10 PM            

"The orb is always 1, I mean inside the harmonic, harmonic to natal and synastry? "
Yes, but if a conjunction is 1°30 and seems vital, I would count it. Your birthtime might be not totally exact. Conjunctions to the angles I even count with 2 degrees, because they move so quick. (well harmonic angles do, natal don`t. lol)

However, while the age harmonic count for the year, we can make daily age harmonics, but I guess only i can do that with the software I have.

For example today the correct day age harmonic for me would be:
41.18259
(I am sure we could calculate that manually, but I am too lazy and let solar fire do that work for me).

In this respect I found it interesting that my Daily Age harmonic DESC on saturday seems to fall exact onto my natal Venus.
And DAH Uranus on my natal DESC exact

posted February 22, 2016 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Does this count from birthday to birthday, for example I am 33 and a half lol"
Yes, your 33th harmonic will show this year.

"The orb is always 1, I mean inside the harmonic, harmonic to natal and synastry? "
Yes, but if a conjunction is 1°30 and seems vital, I would count it. Your birthtime might be not totally exact. Conjunctions to the angles I even count with 2 degrees, because they move so quick. (well harmonic angles do, natal don`t. lol)

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What about harmonic Asc falling within 1 orb on my natal Sun????
I am fascinated, I have found so much, thanks, lol!!!

posted February 22, 2016 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
If your birthtime is correct then that seems major! A great time to "become yourself"

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posted February 22, 2016 03:27 PM            

Anyway the software planetdance is for free, and we can do age harmonics with it, the only problem is for day age harmonics we need to know the exact decimal of the age, 41, 234 for example.