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Topic: Most common Aspects in Longest-Marriages
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2012 12:37 AM
MoonFish - quote: Well supposedly you were pretty nice to everyone except for me.
I'm sure she'll be nice to you on a different topic where she doesn't so vehemently disagree! & It wasn't a personal attack. quote: going through some tough times in your life
I wouldn't go that far.. Maybe it's PMS. Who cares? I genuinely don't. I don't think she has done anything unusual - since many posters on here have at times been more passionate or aggressive.. It happens. As she said herself - she is human. I agree that MoonFish didn't deserve the snappy 'tone'.. even though what Lonake is actually saying - about the Moon aspects in the absence of TOB & the small sample - is correct. But it is a free world and people can do their research as they please, whenever they have the time! It would take much longer to carry out very in depth meticulous research and if MoonFish cannot be bothered it's her prerogative. I know I couldn't be bothered either. And Lonake - Most people would realize that the sample is small & that she didn't have the TOB - so it's no harm done.. because I doubt anyone will read this and think "OMG having a Moon/Saturn aspect - must the only possible way to get married". If they are that naive - it's their own problem. As I said... I'm sure it'll blow over and you guys will talk normally on other threads in the future. I hope we can all move on and discuss the thread topic... rather than discuss Lonake - since the thread will be closed if this goes on! But it's up to you  IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2012 12:38 AM
I actually missed the last few posts before I said that.... ^ IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2012 12:44 AM
I should add - before I end up in an argument myself... the PMS comment was not meant to be offensive. I personally DO get more snappy at that time of the month and I've noticed I get snappy in my LL posts as well (whereas usually I'm much calmer). IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5223 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2012 12:45 AM
@mintgirl123 - Thank you so much :]
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 04, 2012 12:46 AM
It may be that Lonake's choice not to use many punctuation signs is intimidating Mint,you are Virgo,right  Come on flakes,let's be nice and ditch the HS Imagine LL going as high school...and instead of this lovely purplish pink we have bloody red...  IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2012 12:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I wouldn't go that far.. Maybe it's PMS. Who cares? I genuinely don't.
They'd love for it to be personal, not on my period, but ty for asking, maybe connected to something I'm 'dealing' with they think, or maybe my dislike for their Moon sign, But no. Sadly, nothing that dramatic for them to hitch it onto."because I doubt anyone will read this and think "OMG having a Moon/Saturn aspect - must the only possible way to get married". If they are that naive - it's their own problem." --It happens, but I agree ultimately their problem. She wants to keep asserting that what she found has merit, is something to be disproven . Free to disagree. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 04, 2012 12:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: It may be that Lonake's choice not to use many punctuation signs is intimidating Mint,you are Virgo,right  Come on flakes,let's be nice and ditch the HS Imagine LL going as high school...and instead of this lovely purplish pink we have bloody red... 
LOL think we all need a *group hug* aye? I swear, you know what really gets on my nerves? When people don't use apostrophes and say "your" instead of "you're." It's like *eye twitch mania* haha. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 04, 2012 12:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: LOL think we all need a *group hug* aye? I swear, you know what really gets on my nerves? When people don't use apostrophes and say "your" instead of "you're." It's like *eye twitch mania* haha.
No,not group hug. That's passive aggressive IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5223 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2012 12:57 AM
@Betty Boop - Thank You, I appericate itIP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5223 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2012 01:15 AM
My last comment on here is - I agree Lonake, the Moon-Saturn aspects T.O.B. were not found and I admitted that earlier in the thread. However, if you want to disclaim that my personal experiences with Moon-Saturn are irrelevant than that's fine. Hope no one thinks that I was trying to give out any bad information or make you believe something that isn't true about Long-term relationships. Thanks to everyone that appericated this thread, and I'm glad I was of some help to you :] That's all I wanted ***bye IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 166702 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2012 09:26 AM
Lonake, I'm shocked that you are being so rude. I expect my Mods to keep the Peace--not disrupt it.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1986 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 05, 2012 09:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by MyVirgoMask: I keep hearing about Moon/Saturn conjunction and I cringe whenever I see it in synastry now (for myself), as I've had it several times and it always ended very badly. Saturn in hard aspect to an Aries moon can be downright disastrous; we aren't cut out for this aspect, I think. It is way too repressive for a highly responsive moon and can either crush its spirit or make it even more explosive and volatile. Another moon might benefit from it and not mind, or even feel grounded by it, but not so much fire moons probably. You will rarely have an Aries moon stay with someone who is going all Saturnine on them directly like that, it would be the equivalent of a cobra and a mongoose having it out. This is why I think some aspects which are so-called indicative of long-term marriage might not work with certain charts.
very interesting point. i suspect that moon in gemini is somehow structured by saturn. according to Morin, mercury in aspect to saturn is ok. following the logic of the ruler of the moon mercury, it may be binding or ok for a gemini moon, but not for an arian (mars ruler) moon. does it make sense? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted January 05, 2012 09:36 AM
For a Moon-Saturn aspect in synastry it helps if the natals have something like Moon or Sun in Capricorn, or Saturn in strong aspect to Sun or Moon or even Saturn in 4th house. (though it still depends how this aspect is intervowen into the natal).But having said that I do need Saturn aspects to Sun or Moon, and I seem to even attract squares. Not easy, but I am not easy either. I contribute that to the fact that Saturn is exactly quinkunx my Moon, and though the quinkunx is not considered a major aspect, as the only aspect my MOon has it certainly feels like it is in my case. My Venus in Capricorn probably has a say in this, too. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted January 05, 2012 09:38 AM
Long lasting marriages often have synastric aspects that repeat aspects that are natally present, and not always the eay ones.A Venus-Uranus synastry aspect can be delicious. Sizzling, electrical, unpredictable, thrilling, exciting. That seems to be true in general. But what if one of the people involved has Scorpio-Venus conjunct Saturn and Pluto and trine a Cancer-Moon, with no strong URanus or Aquarius-placements? They would still feel the thrilling excitement of Venus-Uranus-synastrym, but would they like it? IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 05, 2012 12:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by nordicsoul: very interesting point. i suspect that moon in gemini is somehow structured by saturn. according to Morin, mercury in aspect to saturn is ok. following the logic of the ruler of the moon mercury, it may be binding or ok for a gemini moon, but not for an arian (mars ruler) moon. does it make sense?
Yes, it makes a lot of sense actually! But who is Morin?
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nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1986 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 05, 2012 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by MyVirgoMask: Yes, it makes a lot of sense actually! But who is Morin?
http://www.astroamerica.com/morin.html IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 05, 2012 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Long lasting marriages often have synastric aspects that repeat aspects that are natally present, and not always the eay ones.A Venus-Uranus synastry aspect can be delicious. Sizzling, electrical, unpredictable, thrilling, exciting. That seems to be true in general. But what if one of the people involved has Scorpio-Venus conjunct Saturn and Pluto and trine a Cancer-Moon, with no strong URanus or Aquarius-placements? They would still feel the thrilling excitement of Venus-Uranus-synastrym, but would they like it?
I don't know how well I can answer this since even though I have a Scorpio Venus, I also have a Moon/Uranus opposition and it plays out very strongly in my relationship - both of my longest-term relationships have had a Venus/Uranus conjunction (I've been Venus both times), and it's never taken away from the commitment levels - but I think it's also important to point out too that both those relationships, while having their Uranus aspecting, also have had their Saturns doing so as well - and in hard aspects. Both of them had their Saturn square my moon! So I don't know, maybe that balances it out? Incidentally, both guys also had/have strong Uranian tendencies.
I would probably think that if someone didn't have Uranian traits, then they would NOT be digging those aspects, esp if there's not Saturn to 'balance it out'. But even if there were...Uranus hard aspects are like jolts of lightening, striking when you least expect them! Delicious during courtship! Scary during the transitional stage into commited relationship, because you never know what you're going to get lol
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted January 05, 2012 12:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by MyVirgoMask: I would probably think that if someone didn't have Uranian traits, then they would NOT be digging those aspects, esp if there's not Saturn to 'balance it out'. But even if there were...Uranus hard aspects are like jolts of lightening, striking when you least expect them! Delicious during courtship! Scary during the transitional stage into commited relationship, because you never know what you're going to get lol
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 05, 2012 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Lonake, I'm shocked that you are being so rude.
Be shocked if you wish! I had my valid points and I made em. No apologies.IP: Logged |
scropiojunkie85 Knowflake Posts: 208 From: Philly Registered: Jan 2011
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posted July 13, 2013 08:04 PM
What about if someone (aquarius sun) has both Uranus and Saturn in the 7th house and their partner's (moon in aquarius) Uranus perfectly conjuncts their Saturn? Uranus aspects almost all of each others planets (easy aspects) BUT has hard Saturn-mercury and venus/moon/mars squares to Neptune? IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2619 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted May 10, 2016 02:37 AM
Bumping coz I found this thread pretty entertaining 😂😂😂IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 166702 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2016 11:21 AM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 792 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 10, 2016 12:23 PM
I would love to see a valid study of this with people born since the 50's who had the financial and other means to divorce if they'd chosen to. I'm NOT talking about celebrities because in most cases, we have no idea of what's really going on there. Just because it's not in the Enquirer doesn't mean it didn't happen or it's not all for show. People actually use Brad and Angelina for that. Case in point. I' also like to see charts of people married happily long term where the charts don't validate it.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4123 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 10, 2016 01:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: For a Moon-Saturn aspect in synastry it helps if the natals have something like Moon or Sun in Capricorn, or Saturn in strong aspect to Sun or Moon or even Saturn in 4th house. (though it still depends how this aspect is intervowen into the natal).But having said that I do need Saturn aspects to Sun or Moon, and I seem to even attract squares. Not easy, but I am not easy either. I contribute that to the fact that Saturn is exactly quinkunx my Moon, and though the quinkunx is not considered a major aspect, as the only aspect my MOon has it certainly feels like it is in my case. My Venus in Capricorn probably has a say in this, too.
Nice to read this. I have Moon and Saturn in Capricorn and my Saturn is square my partner's Moon... His Moon is is Capricorn in draconic and it's really interesting as you get to know people to see the "lining of the coat" which is the draconic at play. He may have Moon in Aries but the Capricorn is definitely operative; I feel it, I see it. It's almost more apparent at times than the Moon in Aries... My Moon is also in Capricorn draconically (conjunct his draconic Sun, also Cap) so sadly I can't compare/contrast with myself lol... (although I can see my Sagittarius draconic Sun in myself ... it's also there by progression though). But anyway he has the Saturn-Moon quincunx natally also--and he is NOT easy either! I love him... but/and ... My hands are full. He is a ball of quincunx. But anyway, it's nice to read this... makes me feel a bit better/validated. I'm wary of applying too much pressure to his Moon with my Saturn but I'm realizing he kinda likes it. To an extent! He definitely has issues with authority though--complex mother-father dynamic in his early home life. The quincunx for him... and this may be expressed elsewhere... but he doesn't like doing house work... actually i think he expressed his belief that men CAN'T cook to me once. Or dont. It was a passing comment and I didn't find a way to respond but..m. That is not true lol... and he is mostly a realist. There he fails at grasping reality. I recently read that Saturn is only workable through DOING. As a function of its 10th house rulership, you can't think away your Saturn issues, or process them in your head and resolve them. You have to work out that karma in real time, in tangible real world ways. Pay those bills. Get off the couch and cook something. You know? Be responsible--actually. Earthily. So the Saturn-Moon quincunx for him speaks to me of this difficulty reconciling the lunar nurturing and the practical acting--as well as the authoritarian Father role being at odds with the nurturing role.. Last night when I was encouraging him to read a book to my daughter when he didn't feel like it he acted very disconsolate about having to do something he didn't want to do even though he had told her he would... aanyway don't quote! He's got mother-father dynamic issues, authority issues around nurturing. The Moon-Saturn quincunx can be very very complex. His draconic Moon is conjunct my natal Saturn and my natal Moon widely... gives my Saturn a lot of scope and comfort. I think i do that for him too, his Saturn on my ascendant. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4123 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 10, 2016 01:14 PM
Stephen Arroyo noted in "Relationships and Life Cycles" that he was really struck by "how many marriages had these Saturn aspects. Saturn-Venus or Saturn-Sun were the most common. And then Saturn and the Moon were second in quantity. And they had very long lasting relationships... The conjuction of Saturn and the Ascendant is very common in marriage comparisons."He also notes at one point that he rarely if ever sees a lasting, happy relationship without at least one close Jupiter conjunction cross aspect. I thought that was s bold and interesting statement. It makes sense too. It's bold to specify the conjuction and to make this statement at all but it must be backed up by his experience. IP: Logged |