posted May 17, 2016 04:59 PM            

We don't actually have that kind of attraction aspects. Ok his Sun is in my 5th, my Sun is in his 5th and probably Venus and Mercury too. Only aspect to his Mars is a wide trine to my Uranus. We have exact Moon(he)- Venus square (very touchy feely.. i could melt away from his touch alone..). His Mercury makes a grand trine with my Venus and Mars. And his Venus exactly conjuncts my Neptune.

In composite we have a wide Venus Mars opposition.

posted May 17, 2016 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well his Sun, Mars and Pluto makes aspects to my Venus.

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posted May 18, 2016 01:34 AM            

The 11th house is the house of 'love received' and the 5th house is about 'love given'.

When we are in 5th house mode we are passionate about something or someone and feel the need to make a BIG deal about it.

When we're in 11th house mode we're on the receiving end of other people's passionate expression, and have the opportunity to judge we feel about it.

With synastry to our 11th house if it's positive, it's like the other person just knows how to treat us in a way that make us feel special (even if it's sort of accidental). We often feel a lot of appreciation, here. The 11th house describes nataly how we'd ideally like to receive love. How we'd like to be swept off our feet (for women), or how we'd like to be swooned over (for men).

With synastry to the 5th house it's all about how the other person inspires us, and how they are special to us, and how they make us feel, rather what we receive from them.

With synastry to the 5th, we fall in love with the other person, and feel and intense need to express towards them.

With synastry to the 11th house, we receive admiration from others, and can fall in love with how they treat us, and make us feel special.

With horrible synastry to the 11th though, we may receive something that we don't like, and could be repelled by this instead. But since we're talking about attraction here that's another story.

posted May 18, 2016 08:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Thank you guys! In the 8th overlay who would feel it more, planets or house?

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posted May 18, 2016 11:00 AM            

Thank you very much for your explanation regarding 5-11 houses!

What to expect with this scenario? I (female) put my planets in his 11H, he puts his planets in my 5H. We are talking personal planets: Mars, Venus, Moon.

From you explanation I gather that such overlay favours him rather than me. Did I understand that right? I'm under his spell (5H, I give) but he will only see me as his friend, platonic (11H, he receives).

And another question I also want to ask. Which houses show extramarital affairs, divorces, 2nd marriage?

Affairs, flirting, sex, fun, games, sport, children - 5H
2nd marriage - 9H?
Divorce, 2nd marriage - 9H or 11H??
Affairs - 5H or 11H?

posted May 18, 2016 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Lotis White,

What to expect with this scenario? I (female) put my planets in his 11H, he puts his planets in my 5H. We are talking personal planets: Mars, Venus, Moon.

From you explanation I gather that such overlay favours him rather than me. Did I understand that right? I'm under his spell (5H, I give) but he will only see me as his friend, platonic (11H, he receives).

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You're right in the sense that this shows that you'd likely be the one swooning over him while he's on the receiving end of you're admiration. But... That doesn't necessarily mean that his feelings towards you are platonic. That depends on the overall synastry.

The essence of the 11th house is the reception we receive from others. In a general sense this refers to our social popularity at large. When it comes to one on one synastry, on an individual level, it can be either platonic or romantic. The one thing that is certain is that the way the person treats us makes a big impression. If synastry is with 11th is good, the person gives us a boost. The kind of high we get after someone makes us feel valued and wanted. If the synastry is bad, we might actually feel rejected or hurt by the response we get from that person.

The 11th house is the house of feedback from others around us on our performance in life. This feedback can be either platonic or romantic, encouraging or discouraging, depending on synastry.

You're planets in his 11th house indicates that the way you treat him has a large impact on his mind. You have a natural ability to make him feel wanted, like that he has something valuable to contribute. Which can be sort of addictive. It's entirely possible to fall in love with someone else's admiration for us. This is the sort of thing that happens when the 11th house is involved in romantic attractions. The way the partner treats us, admires us, and makes us feel included, matches up with our dream of how we always wanted to be loved. Depending on you're individual situation, this can totally be attractive.

Also, if your chart matches the symbolism of his 5th, 7th, or 8th house (even without planets in those houses), or aspects the rulers of these houses, then there will be other things about you that could attract him to you. Also, if he has Aquarius on the 7th house, or an Aquarius Venus, then he'll be very attracted to his 11th house for more then the usual reason.

As for what houses rule affairs and divorces. Well these are both things I don’t like so I’m not really an expert on them. I think affairs bring us bad ’love karma’. If we bring heartache to someone else, at some future time (even in another life maybe) the same may be done to us.

posted May 18, 2016 10:06 PM            

She said that marriages and divorces are a legal matter so that the 9th house is usually active, but that the actual nature of the second marriage partner is described by the 11th house.

She give the example that her own second husband has his Asc conjunct her 11th house cusp. And that she's seen clients with Capricorn on the 11th marry much older types or Capricorns. And another client had Cancer the 11th house cusp and married a Cancer Sun for their second marriage.

The theory that the 11th house is the second marriage goes like this... When we marry someone the union was intended to last for life, and so every union after that in a technical sense is really just a love affair. So we count 5 signs from the 7th to the 11th (11th is 5th from the 7th) to see the second partner. And we'd count 5 more signs to the 3rd house to see the third partner (supposedly our next 'love affair').

The theory for the 9th house as the second spouse, is that each succeeding spouse is like a sibling to the last one. A similar type of person but slightly different from the last. It also relates to the ancient practice in some societies that in the event that a spouse dies, we'd marry their sibling (literally!).

posted May 18, 2016 11:22 PM            

I have a question for you.

What do you think about aspects vs aspects?

For instance a woman's mars aspects matching with the man's venus aspects and/or sign?

For example: I have Venus opposition Mars and almost all the women i have dated have a mars/pluto aspect.

I have Mars opposition Uranus and i attract many women that have a Venus/Uranus aspect.

It's basically, whatever your mars and venus aspects are, it gives extra flavor of your natal sign.

posted May 19, 2016 12:13 AM            

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You're planets in his 11th house indicates that the way you treat him has a large impact on his mind. You have a natural ability to make him feel wanted, like that he has something valuable to contribute. Which can be sort of addictive. It's entirely possible to fall in love with someone else's admiration for us. This is the sort of thing that happens when the 11th house is involved in romantic attractions. The way the partner treats us, admires us, and makes us feel included, matches up with our dream of how we always wanted to be loved. Depending on you're individual situation, this can totally be attractive.

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Wow that fits ^. a m a z i n g l y

To not even talk about..

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She give the example that her own second husband has his Asc conjunct her 11th house cusp. And that she's seen clients with Capricorn on the 11th marry much older types or Capricorns. And another client had Cancer the 11th house cusp and married a Cancer Sun for their second marriage.

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I'm his second serious one and he has Leo on the 11th cusp, I'm a Leo-Sun which falls in his 11th (close to its cusp).

posted May 19, 2016 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Lotis White,

I have a question for you.

What do you think about aspects vs aspects?

For instance a woman's mars aspects matching with the man's venus aspects and/or sign?

For example: I have Venus opposition Mars and almost all the women i have dated have a mars/pluto aspect.

I have Mars opposition Uranus and i attract many women that have a Venus/Uranus aspect.

It's basically, whatever your mars and venus aspects are, it gives extra flavor of your natal sign.

That's what i believe. I've been noticing many couples with no traditional mars/venus mars/moon aspects that have a long relationship. They have matching aspects!

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Hi Gemini30,

Firstly I want say that attraction is multifaceted. It really is a combo of 5th, 7th, 8th house symbolism, synastry aspects, and gender planet affinities (e.g. Guy with Venus/Neptune goes for women with Mars/Neptune, or Venus/Neptune, or a Pisces influence).

If any one factor is out of balance it throws the connection off kilter. If somebody puts all their planets in your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses but they hardly aspect your chart via synastry, the connection may fall flat.

If someone heavily aspects your chart but they are not your type via the relationship houses (5th, 7th, and 8th symbolism) you may really appreciate them but not in a romantic light. The just don’t press you’re buttons. This includes taking into account the house rulers as well, their position and aspects to the partner’s chart.

I’ve noticed that the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses do determine who we end up with in terms of the signs they have in their chart. The partner needs to match the 7th house in some way for sure by sign… So if somebody has a Cancer Dsc with Jupiter in the 7th, and Moon in Virgo, that means the partner will likely have the signs Cancer, Sagittarius (for Jupiter in the 7th), or Virgo strong in their chart. Or the have a combo of these signs.

However, I’ve also noticed that aspects to the gender planets in the natal chart are often reflected by partner. That is, the partner’s Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars. These are called affinities. If one partner has Moon in the 8th house, the other may have a Scorpio Sun or Moon. If one partner has a Venus/Saturn aspect in their chart, the other may have a Mars/Saturn or Venus/Saturn aspect in their chart. This is very common.

When comparing the 5th, 7th, and 8th house symbolism to affinities, it seems that both are true and both ‘work’. My thinking tends to be that we need both affinities and relationship house symbolism matching to really find the right match. I mean, how often to we deeply fall for somebody? It’s not so easy to find that level of connection. There are many we could be attracted to in a half-hearted way, like a crush. But not many feel like life partner material.

posted May 19, 2016 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Wow that fits ^. a m a z i n g l y

To not even talk about..

[QUOTE]She give the example that her own second husband has his Asc conjunct her 11th house cusp. And that she's seen clients with Capricorn on the 11th marry much older types or Capricorns. And another client had Cancer the 11th house cusp and married a Cancer Sun for their second marriage.

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And yes I have his TOB to the very minute (from his mom). It's even more reliable than my own rounded 7:40.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your feedback Mir,

posted May 19, 2016 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Magi astro drains me of all my energy these days child, you can find it all online like I did back then. Hard to believe I was such a moth to their flames of heartbreak. Although yea I'm still a bit wary of such transits.

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posted May 19, 2016 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
me and my boo have an exact conjunction of Juno-Chiron.
It's been 2 years now but the sexual attraction hasn't decreased with time. Not sure how it will progress, thou

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posted May 19, 2016 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Child, I only know an MT is a great thing to have in synastry but has nothing to do with longevity unless chiron involved.

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posted May 19, 2016 02:14 PM            

^ obviously the geo-longitudes are enough to look at.

Enough Magi!

posted May 19, 2016 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Chiron/Neptune - Chiron/Jupiter - Chiron/Venus as LINKAGES are the true LOVE MAGNETS. And I had them ALL in my longer relationships. All under 2 deg or exact. Different relationships chronologically starting from age 17:
1) Chiron-Jupiter conjunct.
2) Chiron-Venus conjunct
3) Chiron-Neptune trine
4) Chiron-Jupiter trine (x 2)
5) Chiron-Jupiter conjunct

^ obviously the geo-longitudes are enough to look at.

Enough Magi!

MT = mystical triangle

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