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Topic: Venus Return
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yungang_grotto
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posted May 21, 2016 05:01 PM
  
Makes sense that in event charts** it must be tighter.  i just heard "orbs" and decided to expound a little. Mostly just wanted to say that I have realized that wide orb transits still make themselves felt! (Wide... 2 degrees... whatever  ) I guess i knew that but have confirmed in myself. Still i guess the energy is likely most intense when it becomes very exact but it's difficult to tell sometimes given combined factors... oh my I'm basically saying nothing here lol... it still seems line exact orbs are very specifically related to events/feelings/thoughts, transit wise.
^^ nothing. And off topic. Forgive me!
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Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 07:50 AM
So in terms of midpoints I can expect:Moon = Uranus/DESC d 0°25
Sudden unusual events; A highly emotional disposition, quick changes of mood triggered by the environment
Mercury= Mars/DESC d 0°39
To quarrel with people verbally or by letter. To be obliged to reply to others. Debates. Discussions.A sharp tongue
(yeah I noticed. lol)
Pluto = Mars/DESC d 0°05
To plan common activities. Changes through the actions of others. Preparations for moving or change of place.adjustment to new circumstances and conditions. Uranus = Mars/ Node d
getting people stirred up; sharing excitement; sudden events that affect lots of people. Uranus = Mars/Jupiter d
Sudden betrothal. Surprising beginning of a happy activity. Exciting activities which are successful.
Uranus = Mars/ASC d
Sudden or surprising actions of other people and excitement through them.
Sun = Moon/Saturn 0°09
Sobering times, feelings of enforced controls, possible separation in
relationship. The separated wife.
Sun = Moon/MC d
a positive attitude to life, vigour, spirit of enterprise, a strong soul link , Mars = Venus/ASC d
To be the object of desire. (yeah we will see )
Awareness of one's charms. Using one's charm or sexiness to make
something happen. An impulsive attachment.
Mars = Venus/Node d
A passionate disposition, the procreative urge. Relationship based on the physical attraction. Making an important romantic date.
Mars = Venus/jupiter d
A harmonious sex-life, strong power of wishing, stirred-up feelings, a good time. Decisions are made through the joys of love (engagement, wedding). Procreation, birth.
Happy sexual intercourse. Harmony. Joy and happiness through acts of friends with relatives or through acting in common with them. To act successfully in love and devotion.
Saturn = Neptune/ASCd
To be defrauded by others. Damages or obstacles through the refusal of others.
Saturn = Mercury/mars d
Deep thinking, good powers of concentration. Inhibited powers of decision, a slow or sluggish mode of thinking. The desire to harm others, the tendency to say bad things, the inclination to bring harm to oneself by exaggerating. Separation caused through quarrelling.
Saturn = Mars/Pluto d
Plan of periodically brought about work. Plans for the distant future. Plans, hindered or interrupted in their development.A person unafraid of hard work leaving no stone unturned;
extraordinary discipline and application are needed and usually prevail.
MC= Jupiter/Neptune d 0°01
To be unburdened. Not to bother about anything. Spendthrift ... speculator
MC = Mars/Pluto d
Organizer. Maker of plans. Attending to several jobs at the same time, To do them alternately.Unusual capabilities of advancement in life; self-confidence,
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Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 08:07 AM
I was curious about Mr Sag`s Venus Return as well. observations: ° Libra on the ASC, with Venus in 4th house conjunct Mercury,
square Vertex in 7th, which is on his natal Venus/Juno-mp, which are opposes natally; trine Jupiter_NN in 12th, ruler of 3rd
widely square Uranus in 7th, ruler of 5th
° MC on 15 Cancer
° Uranus widely conjunct DESC (5 degrees)
° Pluto EXACT on the IC, ruler of 2nd
(I think after this year there will have been a major transformation of the homebasis of his relationship?)
° T-square
Uranus on 17 Aries in 7th
opp.
BML on 19 Libra in 1st
square
Pluto on 16 Cap right on IC
^° exact aspects (under 1 degree)
Mars sextile Jupiter 0°02 (
BML quinkunx Chiron 0°19
Moon sextile Ceres 0°35
Saturn quinkunx MC 0°41
Pluto conjunct IC 0°44
Jupiter conjunct NN 0°52
Mars sextile NN 055
exact aspects to his natal chart
Vertex square Juno 0°06
Venus sextile ASC 0°23
Uranus quinkunx BML 0°27
Neptune square Mercury 0°28
Neptune sextile Chiron 0°40
Jupiter square Neptune 0°43
Venus trine Saturn 0°47
Vertex trine Sun 0°48
Vertex trine Moon 0°52
Chiron square Neptune 0°52
- well I forgot to check the aspects of my Venus return to my own natal, so adding those here, these are MINE
Uranus sextile Moon 0°03
Uranus square Saturn 0°05
BML trine MOon 0°14
BML quink. Juno 0°23
BML square Saturn 0°23
Sun trine Pluto 0°45
Neptune quink. Pluto 0°43
Pluto oppospite Saturn 0°57
Pluto sextile Juno 0°58
Vertex square Mars 0°59
Juno trine Jupiter 0°59 *sighs* seems my poor 8th house Saturn REALLY has to crack open this year, change, transform whatever, let go of the past stuffiness probably
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Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 08:24 AM
WEll HIS midpoints in the Venus-Return
MC = Mars/Neptune d
To experience failures and Losses, Apparent loss of ego-consciousness; one's own world prevails; rebuilding the inner spirit
MC = Uranus/ASC d
Major change potential in job or social status, with parents, or through the
spouse's job position or family. Changing objectives in life and constantly searching for new stimuli and contacts.To be excited by or over other people.
Venus = Moon/Uranus
Women energetically defending love. Surprising love adventures. To give oneself up to inner stress.sudden sexual activities
Moon = Sun/Pluto
Attempts to project power and persuasion. Brutal suppression of feelings. (or obsessing)
Moon=Sun/MC d
An instinctively correct understanding of life's aims. Finding one's
position in life,
One's personal attitude toward women. One's own mind. To represent oneself to the public with heart and soul
Sun = Moon/Saturn d
Divorced woman. daily repeating hours of being alone. To be moody or depressed; Sobering times, feelings of enforced controls, possible separation in
relationship. The separated wife, the widow.
Sun = Mercury/Jupiter
A good intellect, wealth of ideas, talkativeness. Success in one's
vocation. An orator with expressive gestures, an actor.Happy mood. Lively and agile body.
Sun = Venus/Node
Politeness, sociability, geniality. An association on the basis of love or artistic interests. love union.
Neptune = Sun/Node
The inability to adapt easily, the tendency to be easily annoyed with
others, being quickly disappointed by others. Disappointment in
associations.
Neptune = Mercury/Uranus d
The higher levels of the mind; inspiration; psychic feelings brought
into focus; magical persuasiveness; deductive analysis particularly when
related to the correct interpretation of visions, apparitions and
similar phenomena. Nerve troubles.
Saturn= Jupiter/Neptune 0.00 d
Breakdown of idealisation, pessimism; possible self-delusion.
Disappointments and losses.To worry about money matters, Separation. To awaken from carelessness.
Saturn = Moon/Venus
The forsaken woman. The widow/ separated woman with children. The sick mother. Separation from the mother. (or from the mother of ones children)
Sternness within feelings; tightness entering romance. Suppressed
feelings, inhibitions in love, unsatisfied passion, renunciation.
An unhappy, sad or sick woman, separation from or of the husband.
Jupiter= Sun/Uranus d 0.05
A pleasant surprise creating joy.Unions or connections that result in happiness. Luck through the sudden resolution of a situation. Making an advantageous decision. A surprise that brings personal joy.
Node = Sun/Uranus d
The ability to make new contacts quickly. Sudden meetings, sudden
experiences with other persons, being together with excited or intense
people, quick new associations.
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llewsacm
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From: Cleveland, Ohio USA
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posted May 22, 2016 09:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Definitely an important occurance, highlighting relationships even more. Where does the full Moon fall into the chart?
 Just got a chance to pull and upload. I have some ideas as to what this year represents for me. Would be interested in feedback if you feel compelled to mention anything. 
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alyssa27
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posted May 22, 2016 12:40 PM
if we have a venus,mars,north node conjunction in 4th house in venus return,could this mean an important venus return year?is the venus-north node conjunction important?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 01:43 PM
Every aspect to Venus is important. here it is threefold more important because:- conjunction
- North Node (ALWAYS a major guided)
- angular house
So absolutely yes.
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alyssa27
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posted May 22, 2016 03:30 PM
thank u ceridwen ..may i ask u if the conjunction with the north node could mean a karmic love or a meeting with a soulmate in this particular year..also the venus-mars-north node conjunction makes no other aspects in the venus return chart..IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 03:32 PM
could indicate that yes. Some important development either in love, relationships or whatever house Venus rules in the chart. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 22, 2016 03:48 PM
BTW I have a book on the Venus Return on my Kindle, and the author states certain conditions for NOTABLE Venus Returns (I think maybe it is not all and every indication, but if those are rpesent, it will probably be an important one)
- any planet in the VR CLOSELY conjunct a VR angle or the natal MC or IC
(she also states she often sees very exact conjunctions of planets to the angles, within just a few minutes of orb; and she uses additionally:
Vertex, Chiron, Juno, (Pallas Athena), BML and the Uranian Cupido
- Venus conjunct Mars, Jupiter or Uranus, especially if in 1st or 10th and to a lesser degree in 7th
(I would tend to disagree with this, I find the receptive 4th and 7th house VERY important in terms of relationships, just that often the stimulus comes from an external source into our lives)
- VR ASC conjunct natal MC, ASC or DESC
(I would add IC, too)
- a reiterated aspect that was present in the natal chart already - Venus return occurring within 3 days of a solar or lunar ecclipse - Venus return occuring at New Moon (new beginning) or Full Moon (completion) - Venus return occuring within 7 days of the Solar Return
- there will be a reiteration between Venus Return and Solar return in notable years
for example BOTH my SR and my VR have Mercury conjunct Pluto, so I guess that is something to take note of (natally Mercury rules my 7th house). (and my SR has MC on 16 Virgo, my VR has ASC on 18 Virgo, at least something to take note of) IP: Logged |
alyssa27
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posted May 22, 2016 03:56 PM
thank u again i will take a look at these IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted May 24, 2016 10:04 AM
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