posted June 02, 2016 05:09 PM            

I have this theory that the more planets there are in the composite 4H, the more likely a couple is to move in together.

With no 4H planets, their chances are lessened.

posted June 02, 2016 05:16 PM              

my parents have only Venus at the end of 4th house (1 degree of 5th cusp) oh and Juno.

my brother and gf have empty 4th house (they live together though) well okay Valentine is in there.

my friends (you know who) have only Saturn in 4th house, conjunct 5zth house cusp, oh and Psyche in 4th house

well at least it`s not about quantity, but probably quality.

Though I do think the 4th house is among the most important ones in a composite, it is the belly of the chart after all.

posted June 02, 2016 05:48 PM            

It's just like a hint of something.

Thanks for answering, Ceri.

I don't have enough birth times for the people in my own family to conduct research on composite houses. I guess I could do a celebrity study but now that you've answered I feel that is unnecessary.

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Also I can really sense the planets/ asteroids that are in 4th house in these couples. It`s like they describe the very core-connection their relationship is imbued with

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posted June 02, 2016 05:49 PM            

I have a heavy 4th house with my ex and we do not live together why? We have Uranus smack on the IC in Capricorn and that just manifested as us being so far apart (distance) she is in Europe I'm in America. But!!! We do feel familiar with eachother we both feel at HOME with one another we both feel we can raise a family when we are together but will it happen?? Poor Uranus... Plus our NN is in the 5th house in Aquarius conjunct the 9th ruler/12th ruler (Mercury).

I'm not saying Uranus is a bad planet but in my experience on my composite IC it manifests as us being far apart plus Saturn is conjunct our 7th ruler (Mars) in the composite in the 4th house etc.

My parents have NN conjunct the IC and they have lived together for 40 years. Sorry they have 1 planet in the 4th house and that's Saturn retrograde in sag there 5th ruler. I am the 3rd child.

Hope this helped faith.

posted June 02, 2016 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I think the synastry will show that, the urge to live together if their 4 th house is stimulated, especially by a stellium.
4th house in the composite maybe will show what kind of domestic life the two will have.

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I can see that.

posted June 02, 2016 06:25 PM            

Angel, I've read that we're not "supposed" to consider the actual signs in composite. But I want to, so I was glad to see you mentioning it's a Pisces Mars. I should know by now whether most people here consider the signs or not, but I don't know.

If anyone reads that and has a strong opinion either way, I'd love to read it.

@Orange, good point ~ my Pluto falls in his 4H and is widely conjunct his moon; his Neptune and NN fall in my 4H.

posted June 02, 2016 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for your answers!

Angel, I've read that we're not "supposed" to consider the actual signs in composite. But I want to, so I was glad to see you mentioning it's a Pisces Mars. I should know by now whether most people here consider the signs or not, but I don't know.

If anyone reads that and has a strong opinion either way, I'd love to read it.

@Orange, good point ~ my Pluto falls in his 4H and is widely conjunct his moon; his Neptune and NN fall in my 4H.

Our progressed composite 4H had a big stellium when we got together, for what it's worth.

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Of course I'm just one of the few that do consider signs important in everything. I think signs can tell us the nature of the planet/house etc.

posted June 02, 2016 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I think the synastry will show that, the urge to live together if their 4 th house is stimulated, especially by a stellium.
4th house in the composite maybe will show what kind of domestic life the two will have.

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posted June 02, 2016 07:33 PM            

I love this article. Re: the fourth house

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For those who really want to settle down, the fourth house in the composite is where its at. I have seen terrible synastries overcome tremendous odds by having a packed fourth house. For those people, building a life, a home, a base of operation was their modus operendi, and, with the intensity inherent in this cardinal house, nothing got in the way of that. When a house is packed in a composite chart, the people involved pour their energy into that area of life. It’s easier when the house represents something solid, like the fourth house with its emphasis on home and family and roots, because there is something for the composite energy to hang itself on. It’s more difficult if something like the 12th house is emphasized; all that energy pouring into a house whose task is to dissolve and resolve, to tap a higher power. Tricky, that one. But the fourth, yes, home, family, roots, all those comforting things, the meatloaf and mashed potatoes of the zodiacal houses…

Well, no, not really. At first, yes. All of the water houses lure us in with promises of comfort and understanding. When our composite has a packed fourth house we may buy a home and have kids right away, because we want to be a part of something, put our roots down in the world. But the composite fourth house represents something bigger than roots and belonging. It has to do with our conscious awareness of ourselves as a couple.

It’s different from the first house, because the first house is instinctive; the first house is about our initial way of being with one another, what happens when two become one. We have no control over the energy we give off in the first house. Any planets there define our togetherness to others, and are something others see right away, but we have little influence over them. In the fourth house, we come to understand ourselves as a unit. We are aware of ourselves as a couple and make conscious actions and contributions as a couple. It’s an important house, because if we are not aware of working together, we may begin to work separately. If we have outer planets on the composite IC, we may have difficulty establishing our roots–we may love one another intensely, we may try to build a life together, but may have to fight tsunamis and earthquakes, and storms before we can establish our emotional roots. That’s another keyword for the composite house–emotions. What we feel together might be tender or it might be stormy, but the composite fourth will show us the status of our deepest, most intimate points. The eighth house will describe our sexual intimacy, and the 12th our sense of spiritual oneness, but the fourth is where the intimacy is, and the sign on its cusp will tell us a lot about whether or not we let other people in. Scorpio or Pluto there can feel vulnerable, and hide our relationship from the outside world. Gemini will incline us to open our doors. If our sense of rootedness is secure, then the fourth house can show us our greatest strengths as a couple. Couples with a packed fourth house know that they feel stronger together than they ever did apart. This is because the fourth house represents the seat of personal power–the thing that we know can never be taken away from us. In a composite chart, it’s our bottom line as a couple, where we stand together, shoulder to shoulder, to face the world.

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posted June 02, 2016 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
hmmmm how about if the composite 4th/IC ruler is conjunct the DSC?

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posted June 02, 2016 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I wonder about the same...Our Composite IC conjuncts my ASC and his DSC, but we are not living together ( yet). Looks like an awesome omen, thou. As if the main purpose of a relationship ( getting together) is tuned up with each others relationship/self angles.

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i would look to a specific transit that will hit that in the composite and each of your natals and investigate on other things if i were you omg i would be looking for that constantly if i had such a beautiful thing, Orange.

posted June 02, 2016 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
i would look to a specific transit that will hit that in the composite and each of your natals and investigate on other things if i were you omg i would be looking for that constantly if i had such a beautiful thing, Orange.

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I know, angel!
It's all at early Pisces- Virgo. TRansiting Saturn hit it very bad last year when it reached that degree and we broke up three times ( with each hit of Saturn) but we bounced back withing a few days after each break up. Once TR Saturn moved away, we stopped hurting ourselves.
Jupiter passed over it too, but nothing really happened.
HOWEVER, the forementioned composite IC/MC is progressing towards our other Sun- Venus opposition which we have in synastry and will conjunct it in an year or two....that would be good, if we are still together by that time. Prog composite MC on his Sun and prog IC on my Venus.

posted June 03, 2016 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I wonder about the same...Our Composite IC conjuncts my ASC and his DSC, but we are not living together ( yet). Looks like an awesome omen, thou. As if the main purpose of a relationship ( getting together) is tuned up with each others relationship/self angles.

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that's awesome! we have it conjunct our composite DSC so hopefully the purpose of the relationship is to shack up eventually

posted June 03, 2016 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
that's awesome! we have it conjunct our composite DSC so hopefully the purpose of the relationship is to shack up eventually

angel, What transits would I be looking for to kick start this baby??

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posted June 03, 2016 02:59 AM            

My parents have Uranus/Pluto conjunction in their composite 4th, square Mars. Venus/Saturn conjunct MC, and a stellium (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron) in their 10th house.

posted June 03, 2016 05:02 AM            

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Have you looked at progressed charts or Solar Returns for planets or angles falling on the IC?

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I just checked and this is what we've got. Considering his birth time is accurate, he's not 100% but says it was about 5am.

I just also realised that the composite IC ruler/DSC conjuncts my nVenus and sun moon mp 😱 how did I miss that! It also squares his natal sun/Venus.

Composite IC ruler:
square transit Uranus 1 deg applying - oh dear 😢
Trines my SR Mars
Squares his SR DSC/Sun
Opposite his SR IC but very very wide at 9 deg
Trines his SR Chiron/SN
Trines his pSUN applying 3 deg
Squares his pASC applying 1 deg
Conjuncts my pSUN 2 deg separating
Conjuncts my pLILITH/JUP 3 deg applying
Trines my pMOON 2 deg separating
Sextiles my pMARS 4 deg applying

Any of these kick starters or kick stoppers lol?

posted June 03, 2016 05:11 AM              

I`ve actually been thinking about mr Sag`s and my 4th house in composite.

IC 16°38 Taurus
Eros 14°40 Taurus
(Dionysos 15°20 Taurus )
Priapus 15°27 Taurus

While those two asteroids and the lunar Perigee (Priapus - the point when the moon is closest to earth and hence seems over-large) are technically in the 3rd house, they are also conjunct IC, so I definitely count them; not to mention they are angular.

Why this sort of stood out to me, is also because this stellium around the IC is the Apex of a Yod, being made to the sextile of

Neptune 15°12 Sag
mercury 17°13 Sag
Sappho 17°46 Sag
11th house

sextile

Pluto 15°14 Libra
8th house

And it is a boomerang Yod as the Eros-Priapus is opposing

Uranus 12°23 Scorpio
(his name 12°08 Scorpio)
9th house, but conjunct MC, and Uranus is the chartruler.

Interestingly my name in our composite is on 13°04 Aries and our pr composite has Jupiter on 13°46 Gemini (and pr Uranus on 13°41 Scorpio), so for some time there was a Yod forming involving our namets in composite and pointing at his name in particular (sort of the complementary Yod to the one pointing at the IC, which btw is conjunct my name in my own chart. lol)

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As for the rulers, well Venus rules the IC of course, and sits on 16°01 Cap in 12th house, pretty closely trine the stellium around IC.

The ruler of the 12th house, Saturn, actually leaves the realm of the 12th ur-soup, and wanders into Leo in the 7th house conjunct Vertex.

Andthe 8th house ruler is Mercury, which happens to be in 11th house conjunct Neptune, ruler of 2nd house, and Sappho.
Also in a mutual reception with Jupiter from 11th to 5th house, Jupiter being the one all the Sag-planets in 11th house confer to, and he is in 5th house.

To make the dizziness complete, Jupiter, Saturn and Venus are being part of a Golden Yod, as Jupiter in 5th is quintile Saturn in 7th and both are biquintile Venus in 12th.
lol

posted June 03, 2016 06:18 AM            

Btw, it seems to me the condition of Davison 4th house could be more helpful in determining whether 2 people will live together. I suspect the 6th house could give us some hints too.

posted June 03, 2016 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW I really disliked the site you quoted. Not because of the information, it is AWESOME collated information. But whoever writes it should really give the sources.

This article, I am almost certain, was written by Dawn Bodrogi.

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