posted June 21, 2016 02:29 PM            

In my opinion, this is one of the worst aspects for a love relationship along with Mercury square Mars.

There are so many things wrong with this aspect:

1. The two do not know how to please one another, they might suck at picking out gifts for each other.
2. In a platonic relationship (friendship) these two never really hang out together, if one invites them to come somewhere or chill, the linking up never really happens. Which comes along to say that they both 'socialize' very differently.
3. They do not have the same interests lacking things in common
4. One person's way of doing something may irritate the other person and vice-versa
5. They are often unappreciative of each other, favors are never returned etc.

and more!!!

Not saying a relationship is automatically doomed with this aspect of course. A nice Venus/Sun or Venus/Moon should help smooth things out.

posted June 21, 2016 04:51 PM            

What you are describing, Libracorn, is coming from other factors. I guarantee you. Look in the declinations too. Its too bad you've had these types of experiences, but one of the most significant people in my life has Venus square my Venus. It doesn't really matter that we may have some differences, what matters is our ability to appreciate each other and accept each other in spite of them.

As with any relationship, aligning expectations with what the other person is actually willing to do/give is important.

posted June 21, 2016 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I entirely disgree. Any synastry contacts between Venus & Moon, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter can be beneficial. Venus does represent values and affection, but its energy can help soften harder edges. Venus squaring another person's Venus is not enough by itself to determine compatibility, friendship.

What you are describing, Libracorn, is coming from other factors. I guarantee you. Look in the declinations too. Its too bad you've had these types of experiences, but one of the most significant people in my life has Venus square my Venus. It doesn't really matter that we may have some differences, what matters is our ability to appreciate each other and accept each other [b]in spite of them.

As with any relationship, aligning expectations with what the other person is actually willing to do/give is important.

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posted June 22, 2016 05:12 PM            

I had a "friend" who's Venus conjuncts my Jupiter exact, and our relationship went very sour. I've noticed that Jupiter connections are way too light-hearted for me. My chart is ruled by pluto, and although I do like to have fun, I appreciate friendships that have a serious tone. Mainly someone who I can rely on when things get tough. Ex: my longest, closest friend shares a Mars-Saturn opposition with me exact.

posted June 22, 2016 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Don't forget that different Synastry aspects work for different people. By all mean Venus square Venus could be worse for Libracorn than hard Mars-Pluto, Moon-Pluto and vice-versa for someone else.

I had a "friend" who's Venus conjuncts my Jupiter exact, and our relationship went very sour. I've noticed that Jupiter connections are way too light-hearted for me. My chart is ruled by pluto, and although I do like to have fun, I appreciate friendships that have a serious tone. Mainly someone who I can rely on when things get tough. Ex: my longest, closest friend shares a Mars-Saturn opposition with me exact.

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posted June 22, 2016 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I entirely disgree. Any synastry contacts between Venus & Moon, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter can be beneficial. Venus does represent values and affection, but its energy can help soften harder edges. Venus squaring another person's Venus is not enough by itself to determine compatibility, friendship.

What you are describing, Libracorn, is coming from other factors. I guarantee you. Look in the declinations too. Its too bad you've had these types of experiences, but one of the most significant people in my life has Venus square my Venus. It doesn't really matter that we may have some differences, what matters is our ability to appreciate each other and accept each other [b]in spite of them.

As with any relationship, aligning expectations with what the other person is actually willing to do/give is important.

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posted June 22, 2016 11:38 PM            

I agree with 1, 2 and 4. But the major problem with the square to my Venus is they have problem to commit (gem and sag venus) and too flighty.

One of my friend has sag venus, we were close but not anymore maybe because it is her other placement (prob her mars square neptune which makes me start to questioning her actions, idk something tells me there's hidden action behind what she shows me, I start seeing her mimicking my style and other).

posted June 22, 2016 11:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Nyctea:
Oh well, i've experienced this aspect and it's great. There can be differences in tastes and the way we socialize but it doesn't matter at all, we have a lovely friendship.
Everyone is different and appreciate different things, that's what i love about people. I'd say that the [b]WORST aspect is definitely Moon square Mercury. I was the Moon in this one. He broke my heart severely, and A LOT.
That's my experience anyway. See ya [/B]

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posted June 23, 2016 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Synastry aspects that are the most challenging are those hard aspects involving Moon-Mars, Moon-Pluto, Mars-Saturn, Mars-Pluto, and yes, the hard Mercury-Mars aspects.

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posted June 23, 2016 06:22 AM            

It's important to look at synastry aspects as something dynamic: they are like transits to us, when we meet things begin to happen, or we meet because we are meant to change and evolve in a certain way and someone else facilitates it.

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posted June 23, 2016 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Libracorn:
I agree with you Moonfish, I see that many people here are disagreeing with what I'm saying and some others actually agree. I think it all depends on what's happening in a person's natal which would dictate how they react to certain synastry aspects, but Venus square Venus is a NO-NO for me!

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My husband's Virgo Venus is exactly square my Sag Venus.

Yes, some major disagreements about aesthetics and stuff, but one mitigating factor is, my Venus is conjunct Neptune and I don't really care about what color the upholstery is, and I don't mind that I can't listen to Pink Floyd in the car when he's there...easy sacrifices.

Now my Sag Venus is conjunct his Saturn. That's more of a difficulty. His Venus is square his own Saturn, culminating in some self-negating, self-limiting attitudes that affect me pretty badly...but I guess that is for another thread.

Otherwise we have a positive Venus picture.

My Venus trine his sun, his Venus wiiidely trine my sun (9°). He is so fussy about getting travel plans locked down and exactly right that my carefree Sag Venus wants to scream or go do drugs or something, while my Cap sun thinks, "Isn't he a doll, though? This is going to work out great."

His Venus conjunct Mercury, my Venus sextile and parallel to Mercury. We both have Venus semisextile Uranus.

And stuff like that.

Point is, much depends on how each Venus is aspected.

posted June 23, 2016 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Actually, they do have a lot in common, they share the modality which is as important as the elemental. Any Venus/Venus contact would show the people as having shared tastes, values, and liking each other or being interested in each other, but it expresses in different ways. The soft aspects emphasize the familiar side, the hard aspects inject an unexpected, awakening element. (awakening to your own tastes, to differences, the timing for changing your values and tastes being triggered by someone else etc.)

It's important to look at synastry aspects as something dynamic: they are like transits to us, when we meet things begin to happen, or we meet because we are meant to change and evolve in a certain way and someone else facilitates it.

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posted June 23, 2016 11:30 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
[b]Synastry aspects that are the most challenging are those hard aspects involving Moon-Mars, Moon-Pluto, Mars-Saturn, Mars-Pluto, and yes, the hard Mercury-Mars aspects.

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Hey MsLeora, I have experienced the Mars square Mercury aspects with MANY people so I'm quite aware of how it works. Sometimes I was Mars and other times I was Mercury.

Pretty much, my interpretation would be that these two don't quite agree on much causing frequent arguments. Out of the bunch, it is the Mars person who gets agitated the most. Pretty much most of everything that Mercury says doesn't sit well with Mars. Mars is often angered or annoyed with how Mercury thinks and their style of communication. Usually Mercury is unaware of this and will state things that completely puts the Mars person on edge.

In my case of being the Mercury, I feel like I aggravate the Mars and I pretty much kept most of my opinions to myself. That doesn't mean that YOU should though since you're the Mercury in your relationship, it was just something I did to prevent arguments (mind you, I'm a Libra Sun). But I do feel as if it's important to let your partner know how you truly feel. If your partner isn't very understanding of your feelings, then it isn't meant to be. And in my case, Mars was NOT understanding of my thoughts and feelings therefore we had to let the relationship go.

In the case of me being Mars, Mercury knew exactly what to say to push my buttons. I would sometimes just ignore them and they'd be offended by my silent treatment. Often Mercury mocked me or criticized my opinions, whether you're Mars or Mercury does not really matter, with this aspect you both have a tendency to nit-pick at each others opinions.

Take a look at this verbal fight between Omarosa and Wendy Williams, it'll give you an idea of what Mars square Mercury does. Wendy Williams is Mercury and Omarosa is Mars. Listen to some of the things that Wendy Williams says that eventually aggravates Omarosa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsPvGmajaS8

Of course in Synastry, other supporting aspects between Mercury and other planets should help the couple come to a mutual understanding at times. This aspect plays out differently for everyone. With the sextile, that you two share, things should be MUCH more smooth and it won't be as
intense as a plain Mars/Mer square. But you should still feel the square at times, but not as frequent.

Hope this helped!

posted June 23, 2016 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Actually, they do have a lot in common, they share the modality which is as important as the elemental. Any Venus/Venus contact would show the people as having shared tastes, values, and liking each other or being interested in each other, but it expresses in different ways. The soft aspects emphasize the familiar side, the hard aspects inject an unexpected, awakening element. (awakening to your own tastes, to differences, the timing for changing your values and tastes being triggered by someone else etc.)

It's important to look at synastry aspects as something dynamic: they are like transits to us, when we meet things begin to happen, or we meet because we are meant to change and evolve in a certain way and someone else facilitates it.

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completely hit the nail on the head! we are all here to evolve after all...

this rings so true for our venus square venus. we come from different lifestyles but we really like each other's style, appearance, way of loving - because it's different to our own. there's a strong sense of unusual appreciation. and learning. we teach one another a different option to what we have known all along. we evolve with one another. i'd rather have a hard aspect than no aspect any day.

posted June 23, 2016 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
hmm, to me, the worst are Saturn/Mars square, Saturn/Neptune square, Saturn Moon square. Yeah, and Venus/Uranus square or opposition. I can deal with anything else.

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