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Topic: Moon aspects in synastry and composite
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 25, 2016 09:15 AM
  
I'm trying to figure out possible moon aspects I may have with someone. But of course I don't know the person birth time. So I know it won't be accurate what does it mean when the moon moves 6 degrees? Does that mean every 6 hours? For example when I use 12:00am time for the person it says that we have a moon trine moon aspect in our synastry. Then when I change the birth time to 6:00am it doesn't show that we have a moon trine moon aspect. I do know my birth time but that doesn't help when trying to figure out what aspects the other person moon makes to my personal planets. I guess this is why it's so important to have both birth times. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 25, 2016 09:45 AM
The Moon moves approximately 12-13 degrees per day. In synastry, if you put Noon as their birthtime, it`s the middle of day, so their Moon would have a range of plus/minus 6° (approximately) from that noon-position. Therefore if their moon has an exact aspect to your planets (with their birthtime put onto noon), then even if they were born at 00 a.m. or 23:59 p.m. that day, this aspect could have only up to an orb of 6 or 7 degrees.
HOwever if at noon the aspect would already be 3 degrees wide, it really depends when they were born. At some times it would be closer, at other times it would be out of orb. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 25, 2016 09:53 AM
I'm referring to the different aspects to the other persons personal planets. That's why I gave the example of the different birth times. When I set the persons birth time to noon it says we have a moon trine moon aspect in our synastry. Yet when I changed the persons birth time to 6:00pm the aspects changed and there wasn't a moon trine moon aspect. Instead it says we have a sun trine moon aspect what I'm saying is whenever I change the other persons birth time the aspects to his moon changes as well. Then I changed his birth time to each hour during the day from 12:00am until 11:00pm just to see if his moon was in aspect to any of my personal planets and it seemed to change. The only thing that didn't change was my Saturn and Uranus conjunction to his moon. quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The Moon moves approximately 12-13 degrees per day. In synastry, if you put Noon as their birthtime, it`s the middle of day, so their Moon would have a range of plus/minus 6° (approximately) from that noon-position. Therefore if their moon has an exact aspect to your planets (with their birthtime put onto noon), then even if they were born at 00 a.m. or 23:59 p.m. that day, this aspect could have only up to an orb of 6 or 7 degrees.
HOwever if at noon the aspect would already be 3 degrees wide, it really depends when they were born. At some times it would be closer, at other times it would be out of orb.
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Faith
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posted July 25, 2016 09:57 AM
What is your question?Edit: Sorry, this is just too confusing for me.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 25, 2016 10:03 AM
Yes, of course the Moon-aspects change. It depends on the orb. Seems your Saturn and Uranus would be exact conjunct their Moon, IF they were born at noon, and hence this aspect shows up at any other time, too. The other aspects are having a wider orb at noon, and therefore at some times during the day they are there, and at others they arenīt, instead other aspects come up.
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 25, 2016 10:07 AM
Exactly so because the Saturn and Uranus conjunctions are always there does that mean there is actually a conjunction from my Saturn and Uranus to his moon regardless of the time he was born? I don't understand why some aspects disappear and others appear I mean why do the moon-aspects change? How do you know which aspects are accurate?
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Yes, of course the Moon-aspects change. It depends on the orb. Seems your Saturn and Uranus would be exact conjunct their Moon, IF they were born at noon, and hence this aspect shows up at any other time, too. The other aspects are having a wider orb at noon, and therefore at some times during the day they are there, and at others they arenīt, instead other aspects come up.
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Ceridwen
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posted July 25, 2016 10:45 AM
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Exactly so because the Saturn and Uranus conjunctions are always there does that mean there is actually a conjunction from my Saturn and Uranus to his moon regardless of the time he was born?
Yes. the moon aspects change because the Moon changes and moves fast during a day.
The Moon moves about 12 degrees any given day.
Let me show you an example.
Lt`s imagine a kid is being born today. In the first chart it is born at 00:00 a.m., in the second one at 11:59 p.m., so at the end of the day.
As you can see the difference between both Moons is 14 degrees, which means that the Moon is moving 14 degrees, today.
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And the Moon could be at any degree in between 5 - 19 degrees of Aries, depending on what time that person was actually born.
Since we use an orb of about 5-6 degrees for aspects in synastry; if the person was born at the beginning of the day with Moon on 5 degrees Aries, it means that the range of when an aspect actually exists, would be from about 00-10 degrees.
Now if the person was born at the end of the day, the degree of the Moon would be at 19 Aries, hence with the 5 degree orb, only planets in a range of 14-24 degrees would make an aspect with that Moon.
If that person was born in the middle of the day, the Moon would be on approximately 12 Aries, hence a range of 7-17 degrees for planets that could aspect this Moon.
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Randall
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posted July 25, 2016 03:36 PM
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 29, 2016 07:11 PM
I see thanks for the example so basically there is really no way to tell what planets are in aspect of the persons moon without having their birth time.
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes. the moon aspects change because the Moon changes and moves fast during a day.
The Moon moves about 12 degrees any given day.
Let me show you an example.
Lt`s imagine a kid is being born today. In the first chart it is born at 00:00 a.m., in the second one at 11:59 p.m., so at the end of the day.
As you can see the difference between both Moons is 14 degrees, which means that the Moon is moving 14 degrees, today.
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And the Moon could be at any degree in between 5 - 19 degrees of Aries, depending on what time that person was actually born.
Since we use an orb of about 5-6 degrees for aspects in synastry; if the person was born at the beginning of the day with Moon on 5 degrees Aries, it means that the range of when an aspect actually exists, would be from about 00-10 degrees.
Now if the person was born at the end of the day, the degree of the Moon would be at 19 Aries, hence with the 5 degree orb, only planets in a range of 14-24 degrees would make an aspect with that Moon.
If that person was born in the middle of the day, the Moon would be on approximately 12 Aries, hence a range of 7-17 degrees for planets that could aspect this Moon.
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LaceyLeigh
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posted July 29, 2016 07:56 PM
Exactly ^^IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted July 29, 2016 11:06 PM
If it is trine in a certain time selection, you may just want to see if they are in complementary positions even without the trine. In other words, if your moon is in Aries, and theirs in Leo, then they are still complementary even without the trine aspect. Hence, still some flow between the two. If it moves to another sign, lets say his inleo moves to Virgo with time change. Not so much. At least where mon/moon aspects are concerned. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 30, 2016 08:13 AM
His moon is in Sagittarius and mines is in Aquarius. His moon sign doesn't seem to change at all that day.
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If it is trine in a certain time selection, you may just want to see if they are in complementary positions even without the trine. In other words, if your moon is in Aries, and theirs in Leo, then they are still complementary even without the trine aspect. Hence, still some flow between the two. If it moves to another sign, lets say his inleo moves to Virgo with time change. Not so much. At least where mon/moon aspects are concerned.
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Ceridwen
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posted July 30, 2016 02:17 PM
There seems to be a general basic harmony between your emotional makeup, just taking the sign into consideration. Sagittarius and Aquarius very often get along quite well. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 30, 2016 04:06 PM
What exactly do you mean?
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
There seems to be a general basic harmony between your emotional makeup, just taking the sign into consideration. Sagittarius and Aquarius very often get along quite well.
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Ceridwen
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posted July 30, 2016 04:27 PM
What exactly didnīt you understand? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 30, 2016 04:39 PM
About the harmony with our emotional makeup. Isn't Aquarius an air sign and Sagittarius fire?
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What exactly didnīt you understand?
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Ceridwen
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posted July 30, 2016 05:23 PM
Yes, they are. Air and fire are compatible elements. Maybe you should invest in a beginners`s astrology book, if you are interested in really learning astrology. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 30, 2016 07:35 PM
What makes Aquarius Moon and Sagittarius Moon compatible?
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Yes, they are. Air and fire are compatible elements. Maybe you should invest in a beginners`s astrology book, if you are interested in really learning astrology.
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