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Topic: 9th Harmonic Synastry
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SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 1395 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted September 29, 2016 09:05 PM
My natal Venus is EXACTLY conjunct a guy's 9th harmonic Venus/Juno conjunction. The 9th harmonic apparently is important because it points to the type of person you'll likely choose as a marriage partner.My mom's 9th harmonic Ascendant conjuncts my dad's natal sun! IP: Logged |
strawberryaa Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted September 30, 2016 01:13 AM
How to find 9th harmonic venus? Never heard of itIP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1485 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 30, 2016 02:54 AM
pretty cool hey!My 9H mars/juno is conjunct soulmates 9H venus/eros/psyche, moons are also in the same sign. My 9H sun is conjunct his 9H mars and same sign as ASC and natal sun/venus. Our 9H mercuries are conjunct. His 9H NN/IC conjuncts my Natal ASC. My 9H ASC conjuncts his Natal mars. Other cool stuff happening but that's the crux  On astro, select Harmonic Chart under drop down menu where it says 'Please select a chart type' and then where it says 'Start date for charts marked with *:' place a 9 in the box next to it.
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mereiposa Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted September 30, 2016 08:49 AM
my n Saturn conjuncts my guys 9H Sun, Vertex Moon conjunction. And his 9h Saturn conjuncts my 9H Sun. So far that does not look so romantic, does it?
but my 9H mars conjuncts his natal Sun, his 9H Pluto conjuncts my sun/jupiter mp, and his 9h ASC conjuncts my natal SN. And our 9H moons are conjunct, so that's good! Our moons don't talk to each other in traditional synastry, so maybe this helps us somewhat. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 19403 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 30, 2016 03:21 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 70453 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2016 08:37 PM
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 891 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 30, 2016 10:39 PM
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1485 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 30, 2016 11:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by mereiposa: my n Saturn conjuncts my guys 9H Sun, Vertex Moon conjunction. And his 9h Saturn conjuncts my 9H Sun. So far that does not look so romantic, does it?
but my 9H mars conjuncts his natal Sun, his 9H Pluto conjuncts my sun/jupiter mp, and his 9h ASC conjuncts my natal SN. And our 9H moons are conjunct, so that's good! Our moons don't talk to each other in traditional synastry, so maybe this helps us somewhat.
Lots of glue with that Saturn Dw mereiposa! And sun/mars is def good for sexual attraction. I have this in tropical synastry. Lots of chemistry. Your NN on his DSC 👍 Moons conjunct is beautiful! So both your souls are meant to move towards that 💖 IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 01, 2016 06:03 AM
Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious. [/URL] other points of interest --------------------------- my chart: his name: 4°36 Taurus my name: 2°50 Gemini Eros: 8°55 Cap Psyche:6°18 Taurus Amor: 19°12 Aries Valentine 13°19 Cap his chart: his name: 3°54 Aries my name: 22°29 Virgo Eros: 15°07 Virgo Psyche:16°58 Taurus Amor: 21°31 Pisces Valentine 26°22 Sag well, my name in my 9th harmonic chart is in partile conjunction with the ASC - couldn`t get any clearer about identity! lol Also in the 9th harmonic chart this comes up with an orb of only 21 minutes, which means in the natal chart my name is in a 9th harmonic aspect with ASC by only about 3 minutes of orb (the orb of conjunctions in the 9th harmonic chart has to be divided by 9, to arrive at the orb that the actual aspect in the natal chart makes, which also means whenever you see a wide conjunction of 9 degrees in a 9th harmonic chart, you are really dealing with a natal 9th harmonic aspect - trine, novile, binovile or conjunction- within only one degree of orb, natally!)
Oppositions in the 9th harmonic chart, really are 18th harmonic aspects in the natal chart, and so on, if any other aspect but the conjunction from 9th harmoninc to 9th harmonic we are dealing of course with minor aspects and higher harmonics. opposition: 18th harmonic (multiples of 20°) trine: 27th harmonic square: 36th harmonic and so on. I think unless being a harmonic astrologer only very rarely these are being used, though I think I remember Cochrane pointing out the 36th harmonic to be of importance especially, but then again he IS a harmonic astrologer.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3496 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 01, 2016 01:48 PM
Ceri, fascinating that you have the 9th harmonic Venus-Venus opposition... We have that too.And of course you're upping the ante, bringing up.36th harmonic , now you've got me going, and we have the conjunction of Venus in.that chart, and node-Venus and node-Sun conjunctions (yet.. argh.. trying to convince myself this isn't "the one" after all)-I wonder what the significance of the 36th harmonic is, according to the harmonic astrologer? I certainly am not a harmonic astrologer, although I'm interested. I know 36 would be the triple trine, 3x the 9th, so extra potent... I've always had a thing for multiples of 3, and 9 especially... ___ It's interesting that so many of you in this thread have noted correlations between the 9th harmonic and the radix/natal chart of your partners, or vice versa. I've also noticed significant overlays from 9th harmonic-natal. Have been wanting to ask folks about their observations and here is the thread! So great... I have been able to find one reference on the net to the validity of comparing the Rasi (natal) and Navamsa (9th harmonic) to determine compatibility.. so I know there's some validity, and in practice it seems to pan out somewhat... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 01, 2016 02:35 PM
Well no harmonic astrologer would compare the 9th to the natal - it is apples and oranges. 9th harmonic aspects within the harmonic charts are just an elaboration of minor aspects that are present in the natal and the harmonic chart is just a way to make it easier to see, however the signs are purely symbolical/ coincidental. from a harmonic astrology perspective from a Vedic perspective they do compare 9th to natal, and I also noticed certian overlays, be it coincidence or not.
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mereiposa Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 01, 2016 05:34 PM
Well I know you are not supposed to compare 9th to natal, but it is interesting.With my ex husband, his H9 sun trines my natal Venus. His H9 Pluto on my natal sun, his H9 Juno on my natal sun/moon midpoint. We don't have strong 9th harmonic connections really otherwise... so I feel like there is something there. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 01, 2016 05:36 PM
Well Vedic astrologers do the comparision. IP: Logged |
mereiposa Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 01, 2016 06:00 PM
What about trines? My ex-husbands H9 Venus trines my H9 Venus. I would think that is important, given that Moon, Venus, and Juno are significant. I am looking at my family members and their spouses.
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mereiposa Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 01, 2016 06:17 PM
you know what is weird? In the charts I have looked at (so friends and family) four have their sun at 9 Cap, which trines my natal Venus. But looking at the charts in my friends and family records, they all share conjunctions or trines to my natal chart at repetitive signs and degrees.
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mereiposa Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 01, 2016 07:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Lots of glue with that Saturn Dw mereiposa! And sun/mars is def good for sexual attraction. I have this in tropical synastry. Lots of chemistry. Your NN on his DSC 👍 Moons conjunct is beautiful! So both your souls are meant to move towards that 💖
Boo, read it wrong. Our moons are not conjunct, but my H9 Sun is opposite his H9 Moon. His H9 moon is within 8 degrees of my natal Venus though, and my H9 AC, and it is conjunct H9 MC. No idea what any of this means, though! 
Just as well, I am trying to step away from him. I think he's not my one, but man, it's hard to walk away. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 5407 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted October 01, 2016 09:40 PM
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SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 1395 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 01, 2016 11:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious. [/URL] other points of interest
Yes it does.
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SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 1395 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 01, 2016 11:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious. [/URL] other points of interest
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 02, 2016 04:20 AM
SunAscendant,sorry, your picture is so large I can`t see anything. Have you found a way to display the 9th harmonic charts of both person in a synastry wheel on astro.com?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 02, 2016 05:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Does the 9th Harmonic synastry repeats some of the tropical synastry, yes? Because I see that the DW tropical Sun- Venus opposition we have in the synastry repeats again in the 9th harmonic.
If the opposition has very close orbs, then it will stay intact through most harmonic charts.
If both of you have a Sun-Moon in the 9th harmonic that means that there is a 9th harmonic aspect in each natal between Sun and Moon (conjunction, opposition, trine, novile - 40°- or binovile 80°)
And it should come up in the 9th harmonic composite as well. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29183 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 02, 2016 08:03 AM
Yun, I was wrong, he was talking about the 30th harmonic as so important. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3496 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 02, 2016 12:30 PM
Ah.(scurrying off) IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3496 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 02, 2016 12:55 PM
Well... 9th harmonic composites sure are fun. In our 9h composite, the Sun is conjunct White Moon Selena.. and you know how I loooove White Moon Selena... (so much). IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3496 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 02, 2016 01:10 PM
The Sun-Sun opposition and Juno-Juno conjunction stand out, as well at the Node conjunction and a few other things. Can we count trines? I kind of don't think so? But it's fun to read these charts just like normal, and the Venus Venus trine is nice. Saturn opposite Moon... yeah... that makes sense... poor guy. But Moon sextile Moon anyway... Can't help noticing the way things in this chart correspond to our draconic and natal charts too... his Venus here is conjunct his draconic Sun (and my draconic Moon by 5 degrees). And his 30th harmonic Sun here is conjunct his draconic Moon, our draconic composite Sun-Venus-Mercury stellium, and my draconic Sun/Moon midpoint. So that's cool. Hey wait.... why didn't I include the Sun/Moon midpoint here? oh well... It maybe goes without saying but I my VenusSelenaVertex conjunction here.  IP: Logged |