posted December 07, 2016 03:21 PM            

I would look at the North Node, first. The NN aspect with which I am most familiar is Chiron conjunct the NN. With any planet or asteroid which touches your NN in synastry, the relationship will be permeated by the nature of this planet/asteroid and what it represents. If people ask me, can they do anything to change it, I would say no. It will play out!

Other aspects which would make me want to run would be Nessus( abuse) Dejanira( victimization) Algol( evil) Sedna( betrayal by men) Medusa( betrayal by woman) Saturn( a strict, unrelenting parent) Pholus( major unrest and chaos) andUranus( abrupt, jarring change such as abrupt beginnings and endings to the relationship). Uranus could be a divorce aspect or a Liz and Dick kind of breaking up and getting back.

Other aspects I would avoid include Cupido( fake love i.e someone fooling you that he loved you when he didn't), Cassanova ( a guy who could not be faithful. This could apply to woman, too) Lucifer( pride and arrogance, particularly of a spiritual nature, but canbe annoyingly arrogant, in general), Narcissus( a narcissism), Echo( co-dependency), Nemesis( a hiden enemy), Maniac( this one seems to be exactly what the name implies, awild and out of control behavior), Prey( this asteroid does seem to show up when a person is being used as prey),Lie( this seems to show up when there are lies), Swindle( this seems to show up when someone wants to swindle )

Saturn square or oppose Venus

The Saturn person may put a damper on the sensitive love nature of the Venus, which is a pure and innocent love. The Venus person may shut down and feel unloved.

Saturn square/ oppose the Moon

The Saturn person may be very critical of the tender emotions of the Moon person. The Moon person may shrivel under the critical scrutiny and demand to "grow up" by the Saturn person.

Chiron conj the Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars

Chiron will bring pain to what it touches. This is not, always, bad. Sometimes, Chiron conjunct a personal planet, in synastry, can bring great healing, but Chiron is a strange wild card that can blow up relationships, for seemingly silly reasons. Once a Chiron relationship blows, it does not seem to get back. I would watch these Chiron aspects like a hawk, if you are thinking of marriage.

The Ascendant

Anything that is abusive or painful touching your Ascendent would make me stop, drop and roll.. Your Ascendent is a very personal point, such as your underwear, not to be silly about it, but it is a very sensitive and vulnerable part of you. That is why Chiron conj the ASC in the natal is one of the hardest Chiron position, in my opinion. Pain hits you in the face, literally. So, if any of the abusive asteroids, such as Nessus or Algol are conjunct your ASC, in synastry, you will feel it and it will hurt. I do not think this can be overcome.

I think it will run the course of the relationship. Hence, if a man's Nessus is conj your Ascendent, I think he will be abusive to you and it will run the course of the relationship. If someone's Chiron is conj your ASC, I think they will bring pain to you and it will not stop. The type of pain may vary by the signs involved.If there were air signs, it may be mental pain. If there were earth signs, it may be physical pain, but pain it would be , in my opinion.

The type of pain with Nessus would vary with the nature of the signs involved, too. With air signs, Nessus would bring mental pain. With earth signs, Nessus may bring physical pain. With Cardinal signs, the pain may be more aggressive. With mutable signs, it may be less. There is an asteroid called Nemesis. If a man has his Nemesis conjunct your ASC, I would run. You get the sense of the ASC and what conjuncts it, I hope.

The Descendant(DSC

With a partner, his DSC will show what he wants/craves in a partner and yours will do the same. If his DSC shows that he craves a victim( Dejanira conj the DSC) I would run. If his DSC shows that he craves a pure love(Venus), I would stay. If Chiron conjuncts his DSC, he will look for partner who has had a painful life. He could be a caretaker kind of person. This may not be a bad thing. Chiron is not always bad. It can be a healer, in that it goes deep within a wound and deep healing is needed. However, again, Chiron is a wild card.

If something like Sedna conjunct the DSC, I would run because the person would look for betrayal and that can never end well. If Nemesis conjunct the DSC, I would expect the person to look for an enemy, in his partner. This happens more than you may think. We play out our childhood dramas with our partners. This is the case, for better or worse.

There would be many asteroids, I would not want conjunct my partners DSC because he would look for them in ME. The same asteroids I listed in the section on the ASC, I would not want conjunct my partners DSC. To do this for yourself, try to distill down the nature of the planet or asteroid and think if you would want it on various places. Once you can put these two things together, you are off to analyzing your own charts.

MC

Anything that conjuncts the MC will touch you out in the open, in your relationship with society. If you watch the charts of woman who marry powerful men, the Sun of the woman will conjunct the MC of the man. In essence, he is elevating her, in the eyes of society. I was not surprised to see this in Kate Middleton's synastry with Prince William. Kate will shine due to her relationship with William.If a man's Venus hit your MC, you may have a public love affair like Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward.

However, if certain planets or asteroids, such as Nessus, from the chart of your partner hit your MC, you may fall. For example, if a man's Nessus hits your MC, you may have abuse which would show, publicly. If his Uranus hit your MC, you may have break ups and make ups, which would show publicly such as Liz and Dick.The same asteroids I mentioned hitting the ASC would be what I would not want to hit the MC. The MC happens in public. EEK

<strong>The IC</strong>

While we are talking about angles, the IC angle is the most personal angle, because it is our childhood self, the little child which lives within all of us. If a man brings an abusive or abrasive planet or asteroid here, it would hurt. It would not show in public, but in private. If a man's Nessus hit you here, he may abuse you behind closed doors. At any rate, I hope I have made the point to watch the angles in your chart for both good things and bad.

PS I seem to be confusing some people. I am talking about bad aspects. If a planet like the Moon or Venus conjuncts the ASC, IC, DSC or MC, it is a wonderful thing. If Lilith conjuncts one of the angles, it is a wonderful thing, as Lilith is raw sexuality and we all love that.You have to look at the nature of the planet and the nature of what it conjuncts to make your decision of what is good and what is not. Ask any questions, as usual!

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posted December 07, 2016 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

MC

Anything that conjuncts the MC will touch you out in the open, in your relationship with society. If you watch the charts of woman who marry powerful men, the Sun of the woman will conjunct the MC of the man. In essence, he is elevating her, in the eyes of society. I was not surprised to see this in Kate Middleton's synastry with Prince William. Kate will shine due to her relationship with William.If a man's Venus hit your MC, you may have a public love affair like Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward.

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What are you talking about?

Kate is a capricorn, that's for sure even though her birth time is unknown http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Catherine,_Duchess_Cambridge

Prince William's MC is in Scorpio- and his birth time is official http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/William,_Prince_(1982)

-> Kate's sun is NOT on William's MC

Joanne Woodwards birth time is apparently known and her venus is in Pisces http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Woodward,_Joanne

Paul Newman's birth time is apparantly known as well and it shows his mc being in Scorpio http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Newman,_Paul

->Joannes venus is NOT on his MC

posted December 07, 2016 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

If his Uranus hit your MC, you may have break ups and make ups, which would show publicly such as Liz and Dick.

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I think you are referring to Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.
Your allegation is false either
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Burton,_Richard_(1925)

His MC is in Cap and his Uranus is in Pisces

As for Liz: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Taylor,_Elizabeth

Her MC is in libra and her Uranus is in Aries

posted December 08, 2016 05:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
North Node Conjunctions

I would look at the North Node, first. The NN aspect with which I am most familiar is Chiron conjunct the NN. With any planet or asteroid which touches your NN in synastry, the relationship will be permeated by the nature of this planet/asteroid and what it represents. If people ask me, can they do anything to change it, I would say no. It will play out!

Other aspects which would make me want to run would be Nessus( abuse) Dejanira( victimization) Algol( evil) Sedna( betrayal by men) Medusa( betrayal by woman) Saturn( a strict, unrelenting parent) Pholus( major unrest and chaos) andUranus( abrupt, jarring change such as abrupt beginnings and endings to the relationship). Uranus could be a divorce aspect or a Liz and Dick kind of breaking up and getting back.

Other aspects I would avoid include Cupido( fake love i.e someone fooling you that he loved you when he didn't), Cassanova ( a guy who could not be faithful. This could apply to woman, too) Lucifer( pride and arrogance, particularly of a spiritual nature, but canbe annoyingly arrogant, in general), Narcissus( a narcissism), Echo( co-dependency), Nemesis( a hiden enemy), Maniac( this one seems to be exactly what the name implies, awild and out of control behavior), Prey( this asteroid does seem to show up when a person is being used as prey),Lie( this seems to show up when there are lies), Swindle( this seems to show up when someone wants to swindle )

Saturn square or oppose Venus

The Saturn person may put a damper on the sensitive love nature of the Venus, which is a pure and innocent love. The Venus person may shut down and feel unloved.

Saturn square/ oppose the Moon

The Saturn person may be very critical of the tender emotions of the Moon person. The Moon person may shrivel under the critical scrutiny and demand to "grow up" by the Saturn person.

Chiron conj the Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars

Chiron will bring pain to what it touches. This is not, always, bad. Sometimes, Chiron conjunct a personal planet, in synastry, can bring great healing, but Chiron is a strange wild card that can blow up relationships, for seemingly silly reasons. Once a Chiron relationship blows, it does not seem to get back. I would watch these Chiron aspects like a hawk, if you are thinking of marriage.

The Ascendant

Anything that is abusive or painful touching your Ascendent would make me stop, drop and roll.. Your Ascendent is a very personal point, such as your underwear, not to be silly about it, but it is a very sensitive and vulnerable part of you. That is why Chiron conj the ASC in the natal is one of the hardest Chiron position, in my opinion. Pain hits you in the face, literally. So, if any of the abusive asteroids, such as Nessus or Algol are conjunct your ASC, in synastry, you will feel it and it will hurt. I do not think this can be overcome.

I think it will run the course of the relationship. Hence, if a man's Nessus is conj your Ascendent, I think he will be abusive to you and it will run the course of the relationship. If someone's Chiron is conj your ASC, I think they will bring pain to you and it will not stop. The type of pain may vary by the signs involved.If there were air signs, it may be mental pain. If there were earth signs, it may be physical pain, but pain it would be , in my opinion.

The type of pain with Nessus would vary with the nature of the signs involved, too. With air signs, Nessus would bring mental pain. With earth signs, Nessus may bring physical pain. With Cardinal signs, the pain may be more aggressive. With mutable signs, it may be less. There is an asteroid called Nemesis. If a man has his Nemesis conjunct your ASC, I would run. You get the sense of the ASC and what conjuncts it, I hope.

The Descendant(DSC

With a partner, his DSC will show what he wants/craves in a partner and yours will do the same. If his DSC shows that he craves a victim( Dejanira conj the DSC) I would run. If his DSC shows that he craves a pure love(Venus), I would stay. If Chiron conjuncts his DSC, he will look for partner who has had a painful life. He could be a caretaker kind of person. This may not be a bad thing. Chiron is not always bad. It can be a healer, in that it goes deep within a wound and deep healing is needed. However, again, Chiron is a wild card.

If something like Sedna conjunct the DSC, I would run because the person would look for betrayal and that can never end well. If Nemesis conjunct the DSC, I would expect the person to look for an enemy, in his partner. This happens more than you may think. We play out our childhood dramas with our partners. This is the case, for better or worse.

There would be many asteroids, I would not want conjunct my partners DSC because he would look for them in ME. The same asteroids I listed in the section on the ASC, I would not want conjunct my partners DSC. To do this for yourself, try to distill down the nature of the planet or asteroid and think if you would want it on various places. Once you can put these two things together, you are off to analyzing your own charts.

MC

Anything that conjuncts the MC will touch you out in the open, in your relationship with society. If you watch the charts of woman who marry powerful men, the Sun of the woman will conjunct the MC of the man. In essence, he is elevating her, in the eyes of society. I was not surprised to see this in Kate Middleton's synastry with Prince William. Kate will shine due to her relationship with William.If a man's Venus hit your MC, you may have a public love affair like Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward.

However, if certain planets or asteroids, such as Nessus, from the chart of your partner hit your MC, you may fall. For example, if a man's Nessus hits your MC, you may have abuse which would show, publicly. If his Uranus hit your MC, you may have break ups and make ups, which would show publicly such as Liz and Dick.The same asteroids I mentioned hitting the ASC would be what I would not want to hit the MC. The MC happens in public. EEK

<strong>The IC</strong>

While we are talking about angles, the IC angle is the most personal angle, because it is our childhood self, the little child which lives within all of us. If a man brings an abusive or abrasive planet or asteroid here, it would hurt. It would not show in public, but in private. If a man's Nessus hit you here, he may abuse you behind closed doors. At any rate, I hope I have made the point to watch the angles in your chart for both good things and bad.

PS I seem to be confusing some people. I am talking about bad aspects. If a planet like the Moon or Venus conjuncts the ASC, IC, DSC or MC, it is a wonderful thing. If Lilith conjuncts one of the angles, it is a wonderful thing, as Lilith is raw sexuality and we all love that.You have to look at the nature of the planet and the nature of what it conjuncts to make your decision of what is good and what is not. Ask any questions, as usual!

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posted December 08, 2016 06:36 AM            

Edit--I did not know an LL person wrote this when I said what I said.

I still do agree with what I said.

However, it was not FAIR of LeeLoo to add a person's name AFTER the article was put up

That is plain nasty lol

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posted December 08, 2016 06:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am going to be totally honest with you, Lee Loo. Your Juno article seems like a bunch of esoteric mush. That person should have been able to hone that down to a paragraph. If you like that, that is fine but the reason I write my 5 aspect articles is because I think that someone who cannot say something simply should not be writing about it and taking up the precious time of others.

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How about you stop taking up people's precious time by stopping your astrological lies? How dare you post articles in Interpersonal Astrology based on 6 famous charts without even taking a look at those charts? This is outrageous.

I am very fond of this place for the knowledge it can bring to me and others, not this garbage.

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posted December 08, 2016 07:11 AM            

If you don't appreciate me, that is your right, as I think what you post makes little sense and is a bunch of garble, basically, but if you like it, that is fine.

Take care

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posted December 08, 2016 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I got to be Number One in Google because I am appreciated by a lot of people.

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Those can't follow you on here and they can't appreciate you due to your accuracy and veraciousness

"ah, i see your virgo sun squares his uranus. the 2 of you will be having a tumultous affair."
- "ähm....i am a taurus sun..."

"he is gonna abuse her due to his nessus on your daughters sun."
- "Ähm...she is the one who beats him."

posted December 08, 2016 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
because I think that someone who cannot say something simply should not be writing about it and taking up the precious time of others.

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in very simple words for you:

whatever you do, it`s not the craft of astrological interpretation.

It`s listing isolated, incoherent tidbits, often phrased as questions, so the client actually gives their own analysis (unless your method changed in the last years).

Why people appreciate that?
Well, some people like simple black and white answers, no matter how wrong, onesided, lacking or misleading they are without context.

Some people like being entertained or flattered or confirmed in their thoughts.

Some people are hungry for at least the semblance of a bit attention and compassion.

There are many reasons.

And who are you to tell Leeloo to not take up other`s precious time? Who are you to tell other people what to read and what not?

(rhetorical question)

The only reason I am sometimes still reading here is that there still are some, though too few, real astrologers with a good grasp of the craft of astrology as well as the complexity of human nature and interactions and the skill to put that into a coherent profound analysis, (mostly) devoid of judgement of the person themselves.

And Leeloo is certainly one of them.

posted December 08, 2016 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

in very simple words for you:

whatever you do, it`s not the craft of astrological interpretation.

It`s listing isolated, incoherent tidbits, often phrased as questions, so the client actually gives their own analysis (unless your method changed in the last years).

Why people appreciate that?
Well, some people like simple black and white answers, no matter how wrong, onesided, lacking or misleading they are without context.

Some people like being entertained or flattered or confirmed in their thoughts.

Some people are hungry for at least the semblance of a bit attention and compassion.

There are many reasons.

And who are you to tell Leeloo to not take up other`s precious time? Who are you to tell other people what to read and what not?

(rhetorical question)

The only reason I am sometimes still reading here is that there still are some, though too few, real astrologers with a good grasp of the craft of astrology as well as the complexity of human nature and interactions and the skill to put that into a coherent profound analysis, (mostly) devoid of judgement of the person themselves.

And Leeloo is certainly one of them.

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Ceri

Sooo good to see you here!

As you might have already noticed: as soon as you said goodbye, AmiAnne started to flash her inaccuracy, her false and ridiculously simple astrological thoughts all over IA since she knew that you would "beat" her with your vast knowledge right away and that you would "win" hands down. Also, i think she wants to get your place, becoming a Mod to get more clients.

posted December 08, 2016 08:28 AM            

NO, DC, certain planets and asteroids conjuuct the NN would make me run. Certain ones are excellent and blessings. The Moon is lovely. It makes a relationship based on heart. Mars could be a mixed bag. There may be good goal setting. There may be a kind of irritation to the relationship. We would have to see the rest of the chart.

I can put up my complete article on the NN in synastry, if you are interested.

This article goes over many, many asteroids and planets conjunct the NN
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posted December 08, 2016 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am going to be totally honest with you, Lee Loo. Your Juno article seems like a bunch of esoteric mush. That person should have been able to hone that down to a paragraph.

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Come again? You're insulting yungang?

"that person"

As if you can't read that it's our brilliant and totally sweet yungang. Stop being such a fake, will you?

Anyway, thanks Enneline.

***People should always proofread Ami.***

She didn't even apologize for what she did here.

Readers, please take note, she was not even trying to tell you the truth about these charts. Shameless.

Edit: Oh I see you added this:

"However, it was not FAIR of LeeLoo to add a person's name AFTER the article was put up
That is plain nasty lol"

There is no way in hell that Lee did not credit yungang from the very beginning.

The name was certainly right there when I first saw it.

posted December 08, 2016 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I got to be Number One in Google because I am appreciated by a lot of people.

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If I Google my own unique name I am also #1 on Google.

posted December 08, 2016 09:11 AM            

Put in the term "Christian Psychic"

And I am Number One

3000 or so people visit my site a day.

That is because I TEACH a hard subject, Astrology, in a way people can understand.

If you or anyone else does not like it, how much do you think I care?

posted December 08, 2016 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Three Steps

Go On Google

Put in the term "Christian Psychic"

And I am Number One

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Notice how the word ASTROLOGER is not a search word?

quote:

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is because I TEACH a hard subject, Astrology, in a way people can understand.

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Says who?

You can string a sentence together but that does NOT make you credible. You can barely even read a synastry chart, to be honest.

I remember just recently you told a girl that her sun was "unaspected" when it was CONJUNCT the guy's Uranus.

Then you said, conjunction to an outer planet still feels unaspected. Uhhhh nice save?

quote:

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you or anyone else does not like it, how much do you think I care?

This much.....................

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posted December 08, 2016 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Go On the Google Search Engine

Put in the term "Christian Psychic"

And I am Number One

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how silly can one get?! Yeah man, there are 50000 pages named "Christian Psychic"

posted December 08, 2016 09:21 AM            

Do you KNOW what Number One of all of those pages mean?

The top in the world.................................................

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posted December 08, 2016 09:22 AM            

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posted December 08, 2016 09:25 AM            

I am not going to explain your intellectual mistake to you, this has become too silly for me. I am sure my guinea pig would grasp it quicker than you.

posted December 08, 2016 09:35 AM            

Explain this to your guinea pig.

If you are in Germany or Ireland or Sweden or India or Argentina, the SAME person is number one. Get it

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posted December 08, 2016 09:41 AM            

this is really really silly. Beyond silly. I am speechless how silly one can get

you are like the ONLY ONE who has named his page "my christian psychic" -> no wonders you are the first that shows up if you google "christian psychic."

Faith has already tried to explain this to you, but...

but i am sure your intellect is being overchallenged right now