posted December 30, 2016 06:06 PM              

In my experience -

Neptune contacts point to a kind of "blind faith". You don't really see the flaws in them or the situation. In your eyes, they're an ethereal prince/princess who can do no wrong. It's too magical a connection for words. And you very much don't want to spoil it with doubts and negativity and all that earthly drag. Plus, those moments of telepathy can sometimes make up for all the rest. What's a little hurt to bear when you have such a beautiful connection? You take it, happily. But when the haze lifts, the illusion is shattered - they crash from the pedestal and it's not pretty.

Jupiter contacts on the other hand, feel way more substantial. They make for a *very* indulgent, almost fatherly-indulgent kind of love. They have a LOT of faith in you, yes. But it's a more *real* feeling - in that they know you're only human, but they always give you the benefit of doubt anyway. Feeling that you can do better. They have faith in your potential, in your talent, and a lot of tolerance for any bumbling mistakes you make along the way. The can't-stay-mad-at-you dynamic is especially true of Sun-Jupiter or Venus-Jupiter synastry. (Moon-Jupiter and all other Jupiter contacts are great in their own ways too, just focusing on the forgiving aspect of things).

Put these two together, and you have an over-idealized glitterama of a relationship. The compounded effects of a Jupiter and Neptune heavy synastry are almost "too much of a good thing". Unless handled by mature, aware people, of course.

Personally, I'd prefer the stronger aspects (or any aspects) of Jupiter and the more pleasant sextiles or trines of Neptune.

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What have been your experiences? When you were Jupiter/Neptune or on the receiving end of either of these fellas..
Did you feel like they were lovable idiots who goofed up a lot? Did you feel like you could get away with most anything?
How do you feel when you are Jupiter/Neptune/personal-planet? Do you notice or does it feel Meh?
Please feel free to talk about any related experiences, not just confined to these questions,
(which kinda sound like *leading* questions when I read them out loud. Ha!).
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posted December 31, 2016 08:32 AM            

Personally, I am unable to get truly mad or upset with anyone which I feel is a flaw within me as it allows people who have treated me badly to do the same again, at some point. And yes, it usually repeats - thanks Moon-Venus opposition for making me too sweet for my own good. I've just had Mars transit over my NN in the 1st house, sextiling Mercury and Neptune and I'm really realising how much **** I've been putting up with in my close relationships and almost all relationships, really. I understand how important it is to put myself first and not always be concerned how the other person would feel, totally disregarding my own feelings and needs in the process.

In my experience Neptune provides the stronger, difficult to get away from experience.
I have my Neptune sextile someone's Sun. I don't think I am able to see that part of them clearly. And I always want to believe that they are a nice person when, in reality, they can be outright nasty to me and use me for their purposes. I also have Jupiter trine their Venus exact. Always tried to give them the benefit of the doubt and quite enjoyed their style of loving. Their Jupiter trines my Moon and sextiles my Venus so I suppose I felt nourished when they treated me nicely.

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posted December 31, 2016 11:38 AM              

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Though I haven't had much experience with another person's Jupiter strongly hitting my personal planets, not that I can think of at the moment. E.

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It`s wonderfully supportive and energizing at the same time. Not as calm/ soothing/ sleepy/ dreamy as Neptune-aspects though.

posted December 31, 2016 11:51 AM            

That's still Neptunian, though.

posted December 31, 2016 12:11 PM              

Personally I love that aspect.

posted December 31, 2016 04:07 PM              

That's a good point - the Neptune ones are hard to break out of.
I can relate to what you've described, except I was on the other end. This guy's Neptune sextiles my Sun & Moon, and he's very mellow about my temper flare-ups. He's a Scorpio, of all things..

posted December 31, 2016 04:20 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
I hope someday you have your own astrology blog, Elysia. You are SO good at this.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Though I haven't had much experience with another person's Jupiter strongly hitting my personal planets, not that I can think of at the moment. Elvis' Jupiter is conjunct my NN but few people would care or listen closely as I detail (again) just how important this has been in my life.

All things considered I have been reluctant in love, preferring the dreams to the reality: a textbook case of Venus-Neptune.

Re: friendships, I've been blessed to meet some really fantastic people, and this has made my life so rich and interesting over the years. I try and never take it for granted.

As for people taking advantage of my kindness...I reduce the chances of that happening by not getting too closely involved with the world at large. I am sort of protected at the center of my own labyrinth.

My spiritual discipline is to work on processing out all negative feelings and not harboring negativity towards anyone, as it only poisons my own body and spirit. This makes boundary-drawing a little tricky but still possible. But there are people who tick me off about as much as possible, and I will still treat them about the same as ever, which is more a reflection of who I am than how I think of them. I guess I just try and live in the moment, and that has consequences that look odd to other people...as if I don't care about things the way normal people do and should.

I have this Mystic Rectangle:
16 Aries Jupiter
16 Gemini Mars
11 Libra Pluto
12 Sag Neptune

I don't know, all things considered, I believe my chart is odd, and I am odd, and I rely on others' goodwill in order to feel included anywhere I go, and I'm happy that I have that to offer in return. Usually.

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You have a Mars-Neptune opposition too? Yeah, that is quite the configuration. Does your husband have any Mars-Neptune aspect? (Just wondering, you don't have to answer.. )

posted December 31, 2016 04:32 PM              

Awesome.
Please tell us some of your experiences..

posted January 01, 2017 05:56 PM            

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@outofideas,

That's a good point - the Neptune ones are hard to break out of.
I can relate to what you've described, except I was on the other end. This guy's Neptune sextiles my Sun & Moon, and he's very mellow about my temper flare-ups. He's a Scorpio, of all things..

You have Neptune -Mercury conjunct natally, that colours your thoughts about these matters, probably. So you have any other natal Neptune aspects ?

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My Mercury Neptune conjunction is sextile to Pluto and square to Mars, it is also conjunct Saturn, all of these aspects are within 4 degrees. They are also the rulers of my Moon nodes and they sextile my NN and trine my SN.

posted January 01, 2017 07:11 PM            

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You have a Mars-Neptune opposition too? Yeah, that is quite the configuration.

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It's interesting, especially since the Mystic Rectangle includes two oppositions that form t-squares with my sun and moon.

sun (apex) square Jupiter/Pluto
moon (apex) square Mars/Neptune

Three major sextiles then:
Sun sextile moon, Jupiter sextile Mars, and Pluto sextile Neptune.

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Does your husband have any Mars-Neptune aspect? (Just wondering, you don't have to answer.. )

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He has the sextile.

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Your whole philosophy is very Neptunian, actually...

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Neptune/Saturn I think? I didn't start off forgiving just because I felt like it, not usually. But I studied and practiced my way into the habit.

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On the plus side, having all those aspects means your Martian side is not neglected or projected, rather you have to actively try to channel it within yourself (as you seek to achieve by filtering your actions and being aware of your emotions, so to speak). Fascinating study!

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Yes, you're right on the mark.

posted January 05, 2017 03:48 PM              

It's interesting that he has the sextile. I was looking up my parents' charts - thanks to your thread. Turns out my mom has the conjunction & dad has a mars-neptune square. That explains a lot about their dynamics too.

posted January 04, 2023 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
I looked up a few more couples, and was wondering if aspects to mars are mirrored in synastry - since they probably ought to have an energy that resonates with us.

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