posted May 11, 2017 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Follow up about the astrological part of the video:

According to astrologer Jewel Mayberry's research Eros Conjunct Psyche is an aspect she often finds in relationships that do not last or end in horrible divorces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiXwwh8RCQ

However, she thinks the Quintile between Eros and Psyche is wonderful as well as the quintile between venus and mars. She also says the opposition and square between eros and psyche work very well but that the conjunction doesn't seem to indicate a positive outcome based on her research.

To hear her talk about this you can move up the video to 12 minutes...

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posted May 19, 2017 11:25 PM            

Like I feel Eros conjunct Psyche usually means a bunch of obstacles to been together lol so not exactly conducive to marriage. I just think that if TF exist, I don't think their purpose is to get married so if they do, it won't end well. Perhaps that is why the astrologer I mentioned does not see this aspect in marriages often and when she does it tends to end in divorce.

I feel TF are suppose to love each other without possessing each other so I don't think marriage is for them, contracts is not a TF thing IMO.

posted May 21, 2017 10:15 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think Eros conjunct Psyche can be a twinflame indicator if TF exist which I am not sure they do lol and keep going back and forth about that but I don't see it as a marriage marker at all.

Like I feel Eros conjunct Psyche usually means a bunch of obstacles to been together lol so not exactly conducive to marriage. I just think that if TF exist, I don't think their purpose is to get married so if they do, it won't end well. Perhaps that is why the astrologer I mentioned does not see this aspect in marriages often and when she does it tends to end in divorce.

I feel TF are suppose to love each other without possessing each other so I don't think marriage is for them, contracts is not a TF thing IMO.

I see marriage more as a karmic soulmate thing, marriage is the perfect platform to work through karma.

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That's an interesting point. Are marriages always karmic? What if you have strong North Node aspects. Wouldn't that mean you are new to each other?

posted May 22, 2017 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
That's an interesting point. Are marriages always karmic? What if you have strong North Node aspects. Wouldn't that mean you are new to each other?

Twin flames is one of the most misinterpreted concepts. They are just 2 soulmates that look alike and end up together harmoniously. 90% of what people are calling their twin flame are just karmic connections, not destined to last.

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I have never been involved with someone that I only have Northnode contacts with, usually people that aspect my nodes aspect both either because they square or trine/sextile my nodes or bc some of their stuff touches my NN and some my SN and vice versa.

You need the comfort of them touching your SN while also feeling challenged by them touching your northnode. If they just touch your SN it won't last bc you don't feel like you are moving forward with them but if they just touch your NN and not your SN they will probably irritate you and you might not want to be around them a lot lol.

I don't think you need to look alike to be twinflames if that exists, TF and soulmates are a soul thing so looking physically alike to me is irrelevant.

I think that our Karmic Soulmates are the ones that teach us our biggest lessons and help us get in touch with parts of ourselves we don't own so we can then be whole and if we meet our TF is to accomplish something together to help humanity, the goal is not marriage.

I do feel marriage is for karmic soulmates yes, even when we have children those are karmic soulmates too. Marriage is about feeling emotionally secure and companionship and is the perfect platform to get you to confront your shadow side and own parts of you that you are unaware of and reject so you can then become whole. Once you are whole is when you are suppose to have higher odds of meeting your TF but odds are you can accomplish your mission without meeting them, you both can do your thing without ever meeting.

If you have a "desire" to marry your "TF" then that to me is a red flag bc "desire" is what keeps you earth bound and when you "desire to get married" what is underneath that is the desire for security and the need to feel loved and accepted by another which are all things you can give yourself but you are looking outside for it. Like if you are whole and you find your TF who is also whole why would you want to posses them? Your goal with them is not marriage but to uplift the world.

Who knows! I love the security of been married, I love the companionship, I will be the first one to say its comforting to have someone to do your daily thing with who you care for and is a good friend.

Odds are that we don't have a TF and we are all soulmates since we all are pieces of the same thing. Honestly thinking about Twinflames has never truly felt right to me, it leads to obsessive thoughts and this feeling of separateness from the whole since there is suppose to be this person out there who is my other half, doesn't that automatically put you in the wrong frame of mind bc it makes you "desire" to find this thing that is more "special" than all your other soulmates? The whole TF thing has always felt wrong in my gut to be honest but somehow I go back every now and then and re-evaluate my feelings about it and there is that small side of me that wants it to be real but I think it comes from a place of desire for this thing that feels unreachable hence we all want it which feels like a type of desire to me.

posted May 22, 2017 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Could be true.
I just recalled Khloe Kardash and Lamar had an exact Psyche Eros conjunction in their synastry

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posted May 22, 2017 01:45 AM              

Most people do have just soulmates, which are equally great and wonderful.

posted May 22, 2017 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Some self-identified "twin flames" really do look alike, though they are not related. They are always happy together and don't go through these phases of separation, chasing and running that karmic relationships go through. They don't cause each other extreme pain and suffering. I realized that the truth of twin flames is really that simple, after being under the delusion that someone was my own twin flame for 3.5 years.

Most people do have just soulmates, which are equally great and wonderful.

And yes, usually the best relationships have a mix of South and North Node aspects

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Been self-identified to me means nothing, that is not evidence of an actual TF connection or that TF exists and are a thing and like I said looking alike to me means nothing too; I would never date someone that looks like me. The description you give I would say my parents fit that except for the looking alike lol and I have never wanted a marriage like theirs. I have Scorpio rising and I want some conflict in my relationships and someone with as a strong personality as me, I want an interesting story with ups and downs ect.

posted May 22, 2017 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What is their story? Are they still together?

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posted May 22, 2017 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Not together anymore. Got married after 3 weeks of dating. Tons of love. Got divorced after 2 years, very public and very painful divorce.

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posted May 22, 2017 03:18 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Been self-identified to me means nothing, that is not evidence of an actual TF connection or that TF exists and are a thing and like I said looking alike to me means nothing too; I would never date someone that looks like me. The description you give I would say my parents fit that except for the looking alike lol and I have never wanted a marriage like theirs. I have Scorpio rising and I want some conflict in my relationships and someone with as a strong personality as me, I want an interesting story with ups and downs ect.

I have noticed that people that have relationships like you described have personality traits conducive to relationships like that and get involved with people who have personality traits conducive to relationships like that. Hence if you do not have a difficult personality and get involved with someone who does not have a difficult personality and one of the two is not super assertive and accommodates to the other a lot you get a peaceful relationship like the one you described.

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posted May 22, 2017 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
There is a lot of debate on what a twin flame actually is. This is my conclusion based on observation, experience, and knowledge of others in the "twin flame" community. Surely looking alike is a phenomenon that deserves some sort of title. It has just been misapplied to other relationships. Like I said, most people don't have a "twin" and they are meant to experience other types of relationships.

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posted May 22, 2017 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I have this with my boyfriend of 2 years but neither of us wants to get married so maybe we will avoid the nasty divorce

His Eros and Valentine and Ambrosia conjuncts my Psyche and Sun-Moon MP and Zeus in the 7th. all the things from the myth.. ^_^ i always thought that was kinda strange

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Lovely, you two sound very smart...

posted May 23, 2017 12:22 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
There is a lot of debate too on whether twin flames exist or not and if the little data that backs up this theory is credible at all. Its possible its all based on a fantasy, anybody who is truly looking for the truth would realize this is a good possibility. Since I care about the truth I do question the validity behind this theory.

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posted May 23, 2017 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
What most people think is a twin flame is really a myth, or they are under some deception. When you know what a twin flame really is (which I believe I do) and have seen examples of it, you can say with certainty that "yes", twin flames do exist.

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You described TF relationship as two people in a harmonious relationship that look alike. I waaant to believe is real but I need more than that. Pls share the resources that helped convince you.

posted May 23, 2017 02:46 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You described TF relationship as two people in a harmonious relationship that look alike. I waaant to believe is real but I need more than that. Pls share the resources that helped convince you.

The problem with this theory is that it feels more like a religion, is like me telling you I dont believe in God or Jesus.

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Twin flames on YouTube: Maya and Zyaire; Jeff and Shaleia. I saw a video of another couple once: they were very young and sharing their experience. Just one look at them you could tell twin flames were real. I tried to find the video again but was not able to.

In most cases they don't look exactly alike, but will share a feature or two that is the same and also their energy will be the same. Note that these couples are not the ones sharing their heartbreak or longing stories but they are in happy UNION. This is what happens with a true twin flame.

Some other couples come to mind but I would have to track down their photos and ask their permission, and that's a bit much as it's not my job to convince you. It's just cool when you find out about twin flames and recognize it in people you know.

posted May 23, 2017 02:28 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Lovely, you two sound very smart...

Very lovely, what are the orbs?

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It's:

20'20 Eros
21'16 Valentine
22'33 Psyche
23'41 Sun-Moon MP
23'53 Ambrosia
24'25 Zeus

..in Aquarius

posted May 23, 2017 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
It's:

20'20 Eros
21'16 Valentine
22'33 Psyche
23'41 Sun-Moon MP
23'53 Ambrosia
24'25 Zeus

..in Aquarius

Haha I mean personal freedom above all right?

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hahah awesome, I love it! I am happy for you two, truly! Enjoy

You guys square the Eros conjunct Psyche I have with my crush.

posted May 24, 2017 12:42 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahah awesome, I love it! I am happy for you two, truly! Enjoy

You guys square the Eros conjunct Psyche I have with my crush.

His Eros in Scorpio at 24d
My Psyche in Scorpio at 24d
My Venus in Leo at 23d
My Mars in Leo at 24d
My amobrosia in Leo at 26d
His Mercury in Leo at 26d

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Wow haha Thank you Hypatia Aw you have a crush how exciting ^_^ ..and my 26 Aries moon and 20 Sag sun are trine your Venus-Mars-Ambrosia.

I honestly can't picture myself ever becoming bitter towards my bf.. but of course, everybody says that before it's over, right? It's just a very Uranian relationship and he's my best friend too.

posted May 24, 2017 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
Wow haha Thank you Hypatia Aw you have a crush how exciting ^_^ ..and my 26 Aries moon and 20 Sag sun are trine your Venus-Mars-Ambrosia.

I honestly can't picture myself ever becoming bitter towards my bf.. but of course, everybody says that before it's over, right? It's just a very Uranian relationship and he's my best friend too.

But I actually do know someone who had the conjunction with a crush and it was a bitter ending (though it never progressed to marriage) - one of those expectations vs. reality things, fizzled out before Psyche had a chance to complete Aphrodite's tasks. I agree with Jewel that it takes a lot to get to that stage of bliss and both parties have to be 100% in to get that far.
I still feel like my relationship won't be as good as it can get until we move in together (we live close by but separately and with roommates) and both of us have to move to the other side of the country for that to happen (bc he got into another school).. talk about working for it..

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Well I am not the type to stay bitter after a relationships ends, I always want to end in good terms from my end no matter what. I read once that this is because of Venus conjunct Mars sextile Pluto and trine Neptune.

I do feel been best friends above all is the key to a lasting marriage if not insecurities and jealousy could ruin it and that kicks in when a relationship is based strongly on romantic love which is more of a phase in the life of a relationship. When a relationship is based on deep friendship is easier to get through stuff and not let pride, insecurities, jealousy, grudges ect get in the way. A relationship based on strong romantic connection is at a much higher risk of falling apart, the stronger the romantic connection I feel the higher the risk in a sense. A relationship strongly based on friendship is more likely to last and provide that security and stability. With a very strong deep romantic love is like a constant soap opera were you are constantly in a high state of arousal and longing although as you get older you can manage that kind of intensity a lot better, like having a career helps with keeping you balanced even if you are in a relationship like that.