posted June 27, 2017 02:00 PM            

Has anybody dealt with this aspect in a relationship? How did you feel it and handle it?

posted June 27, 2017 03:52 PM            

I met this one ... square (2)

I am saturn he is North Node and south, also My North Node Quintile his saturn (0)

I don't know how to interpret this one, just I can feel as if it's too hard to get away, it can be like being never separate even if we're not together. It's like a strong, fated tie ... Karmic tie between souls... Never forget it, as it always under the skin even though all the events would be against and opposed to that. I think that may be a correct definition.

Here are the links that I found for this if it can help you ...

about general thought :
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222388.html

about square :
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/005835.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002953.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004532.html (for DW)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213590.html (with south node)

And many others in the search engine ...

posted June 27, 2017 04:35 PM            

Thank you for your reply and help.

"I can feel as if it's too hard to get away, it can be like being never separate even if we're not together. It's like a strong, fated tie ... Karmic tie between souls... Never forget it, as it always under the skin even though all the events would be against and opposed to that."

This is exactly what we are going through.

posted June 28, 2017 06:00 AM            

I understand that saturn square NN/SN is a real glue and that there can be several separations in the relationship and several returns together despite difficulties and other impossibilities.

I will have to take the time to read again the web links I have given you. I'll tell you if I find more interesting things

posted June 28, 2017 07:28 AM            

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posted June 28, 2017 07:55 AM            

Saturn is glue. And Saturn is protagonist in our synastry, aspecting most of our personal planets, unfortunately mainly with difficult aspects.

I'm just confused as to whether we should be doing this maturing together or in our own seperate ways!?

posted June 28, 2017 09:13 AM            

Yes maturity is certainly necessary to be able to manipulate obsession, addiction and energy without brutalizing the deep nature of our love one with our emotions ...

You're right, Saturn Square N is certainly heavier than Pluto, but as I had to settle things with a pluto square venus in our synastry ... this was the tree that hid the forest LOL

Maturity also helps to understand better the stakes in the relationship, better manage its character "Fated" because it may seem TOO heavy and scare ... Saturn can be oppressif. YES: "It is with or without you that I can not live a kind of situation"

Taking maturity together may be a good thing if the two of you are in the same place on their own path, if one is more awake than the other, let time and accept some separation (At least of the bodies, since the rest of the tie stay strong even if you are far away ...).

I think the relationship will come back if it does, no need to push it: what needs to be will be

Have you got a DW saturn square Nodes ?

@Koniucha

I don't know...

Please do not quote

posted June 28, 2017 11:32 AM            

With Saturn, heavy and scary it is indeed.
I felt like I was parenting at times. I think she might have felt this way too

No it's not DW.
But my Sun/Juno is conjuct her NN making a square to her Chiron conjuct my ASc.
Well that explains a lot(eye opener)

In the composite chart, Saturn/Pluto trine the Nodes.
But, the NN is placed in the 1st and SN in 7th house

posted July 05, 2017 12:44 PM            

Sorry. I hope others will give you some interpretations that will make sense to you in this relationship.

posted July 10, 2017 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Do squares to the nodes really matter though? I always thought the only node contacts that really had an affect were the conjunctions. All the other aspects don't really affect the relationship as the nodes aren't even real planets. At least that's what I thought.

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posted January 21, 2019 12:40 AM            

It does feel like a frustrating dance of 'stuck with you' for the long run, even if we don't have contact. They kind of linger in the back of the mind. I'm the Saturn person however, and it isn't a DW, so I doubt they have much issue in return. I believe our NN's loosely trine each other, anyway.

posted January 21, 2019 05:20 AM            

Maturity on both parts might solve this problem..

Someone said it feels like the other person lingers in the back of your mind and that’s absolutely true in my case. I’m Saturn. Other than the square, we have positive Saturn aspects. My Saturn trine his Moon and conj his Vertex. His Saturn sextile my Sun and my Asc.

posted January 21, 2019 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
I have this aspect with my child’s daddy.
We got together instantly after meeting each other, but our relationship had a lot of struggles from the start, still no chance to get away from each other although we both tried. Last time I wanted to break up, I conceived our child. We’re currently not together. He started dating someone else, but of course we’re constantly in contact.
I don’t know where this journey will take us. It’s a blessing and a curse, really.

Maturity on both parts might solve this problem..

Someone said it feels like the other person lingers in the back of your mind and that’s absolutely true in my case. I’m Saturn. Other than the square, we have positive Saturn aspects. My Saturn trine his Moon and conj his Vertex. His Saturn sextile my Sun and my Asc.

Also my IC conj his NN. I can imagine that this aspect got us together quickly and also made the conception possible. We’re a family now.

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It seems that the Nodes person is the one who will wanna escape because this contact feels too "heavy"?

In my case, I feel that Saturn-Nodes binds us together in a difficult union...yet there's a compelling desire to be in each others' lives for as long as possible. But I noticed that Saturn person is more willing to face the challenges than the Nodes person who seems more "afraid" of the challenges.

There's so much push/pull. We also have Saturn-Moon DW which makes it even harder.

Planets on the angles are very attractive. Do you know anything about Anti-Vertex on the IC? I saw this online, not sure how accurate:

"When someone’s personal planet, Ascendant/Descendant, IC/MC, or Vertex aspects your Vertex by conjunction or opposition, a fated relationship is indicated. This is the kind of relationship that will change your life."

posted January 21, 2019 06:42 AM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
I've experienced this; my Saturn in Cap tends to square the NN in Libra generation (most of my generational planets in Cap do, haha but I also know their calling is slightly at frictional odds with my gen).

It does feel like a frustrating dance of 'stuck with you' for the long run, even if we don't have contact. They kind of linger in the back of the mind. I'm the Saturn person however, and it isn't a DW, so I doubt they have much issue in return. I believe our NN's loosely trine each other, anyway.

But yes, I can attest to the 'you always are on the back of my mind' in a frustrating sort of way. Sometimes nice, but usually just 'augh, you again' when I least need it.

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posted January 21, 2019 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
It seems that the Nodes person is the one who will wanna escape because this contact feels too "heavy"?

In my case, I feel that Saturn-Nodes binds us together in a difficult union...yet there's a compelling desire to be in each others' lives for as long as possible. But I noticed that Saturn person is more willing to face the challenges than the Nodes person who seems more "afraid" of the challenges.

There's so much push/pull. We also have Saturn-Moon DW which makes it even harder.

Planets on the angles are very attractive. Do you know anything about Anti-Vertex on the IC? I saw this online, not sure how accurate:

"When someone’s personal planet, Ascendant/Descendant, IC/MC, or Vertex aspects your Vertex by conjunction or opposition, a fated relationship is indicated. This is the kind of relationship that will change your life."

I wonder how it's "fated"... everything seems fated..

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Well from my particular experience it’s the Saturn person who is more willing to go the distance, whereas the Node person tends to resist the struggle. This is at least how it went in our case. I’m always the one who’s giving in. I’m always giving him the benefit of a doubt, I’m always forgiving. Maybe I should turn it around and see what happens..?

posted January 21, 2019 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
So the Nodes person doesn't feel anything?

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I wouldn't say that. In my case, they have NN conjunct Pluto, so they probably definitely felt my Saturn square.

However, in the case of just the Nodes- look to see what they have aspecting the Nodes in their own chart (even the rulers of the house the Nodes are in), to lend insight there. For me, when I feel my Nodes activated (as example), it feels like I'm compelled to do something, OR rely on what's familiar. Usually if I do rely solely on what's familiar and don't challenge myself however, it will end up feeling frustrating and even toxic.