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Topic: Moon in partner's 8th house synastry - who feels it more/is obsessed?
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6198 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 06, 2019 08:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight: Good luck with that! If that’s your plan, don’t have sex....seriously. It truly is impossible to walk away from once the connection has become physical, if this aspect is really strong.
What determines whether or not the placement is really strong? My Moon makes a hard aspect to his Pluto and a wide trine to his Sun. But my Sun makes a close trine to his Moon my Venus sextiles his Venus and my Mars makes a wide conjunction to his Venus. I don't think I have anything to be worried about. As his personal planets don't really affect mine. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight Knowflake Posts: 428 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted February 06, 2019 09:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: What determines whether or not the placement is really strong? My Moon makes a hard aspect to his Pluto and a wide trine to his Sun. But my Sun makes a close trine to his Moon my Venus sextiles his Venus and my Mars makes a wide conjunction to his Venus. I don't think I have anything to be worried about. As his personal planets don't really affect mine.
It will be the natals than will help determine how the aspect is handled. If one of both individuals like and mirror the energy, the aspect manifestations will be better received. Please, in the name of astrology. Go through with your plan and let me know how the relationship pans out. I would love be to know how easy it is to walk away from it! IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 539 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 06, 2019 04:20 PM
I can’t walk away and we haven’t even kissed yet!!! I’m trying to though. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 06, 2019 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by anska5: So how does the 8th house person feel? Are they not even a little obsessed as well?
In my case I wasn't obsessed at all. Not even with the one who had his Moon, Venus and Mars in my 8th H. I just liked talking to him. And to be honest the one you're talking about doesn't sound like he is much interested too. Always depends on the rest of the synastry. Like if you have your planeta in his 5th and 7th H, if your planets aspect his Moon (excluding outer planets that he has already natally, for example if he has Neptune-Moon conjunction natally it doesn't really count if your Neptune conjuncts his Moon, you'll be the one feeling this aspect) I think he just wants sex and doesn't feel anything special because otherwise he would want a relationship even a distant one with you. But if I remember correct he just wants sex.
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Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted February 07, 2019 04:23 AM
This is interesting, I hvae read other "8th house moon synastry" threads in this forum and the majority in them believed and felt it was the house person who felt it more.Also, for ex if it was someones sun in your 8th, sun will shine on your 8th house and with its light bring out anything that is secret and deep and ugly etc. Its rays will be very harsh and exposing for the house person. With moon, moon and its light is a reflector. It reflects back the energy thats in your 8th. So you are being reflected back your own "deepth" so to speak. Its like, you are looking at a mirror, not at the planet person. Or, the planet person is just projecting back you to you. And the planet person is not the one that feels it more, its the house person, often times depending on other stuff.. This is what I read in other forums and also in threads here if I don't missremember it.. IP: Logged |
anska5 Knowflake Posts: 230 From: Registered: Jun 2018
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posted February 07, 2019 01:40 PM
[And to be honest the one you're talking about doesn't sound like he is much interested too. Always depends on the rest of the synastry. Like if you have your planeta in his 5th and 7th H, if your planets aspect his Moon (excluding outer planets that he has already natally, for example if he has Neptune-Moon conjunction natally it doesn't really count if your Neptune conjuncts his Moon, you'll be the one feeling this aspect) I think he just wants sex and doesn't feel anything special because otherwise he would want a relationship even a distant one with you. But if I remember correct he just wants sex. [/b][/QUOTE] He is not interested now, I agree, but it's a complicated story and initially he definitely was. We live in different countries, so we are not talking long distance as in 1 hour drive away. Initially he was very intense, we met at work and even travelled back to my country just for a party I invited him to. Anyway, it's too complicated a story. We had a misunderstanding the night of the party which I think changed everything for him and I think which made him switch on his head so to speak. There is also a considerable age difference, so I can completely see and agree with his argument that a relationship other than a ONS isn't really possible and it would be different, according to him if I lived there. Bottom line is, my feeling is that there is also an emotional connection from his side, but he's decided to shut it out, because it's not realistic. But of course I could be deluded. Regarding other strong synastry aspects it's all there: Strong tight aspects to his moon. Opposite ascedants, my ascendant in his 7th house Strong aspects to his 8th, 7th house and 5th house rulers. moon conjunct mars, Venus opposite mars, mars trine venus, venus and sun conjunct uranus and neptune 8th house rulers conjunct 8th and 5th house rulers conjucnt His venus and mars rulers as well as his 8th house ruler conjunct my ascendant, My sun, venus and mercury conjunct his ascendant In composite we have: -Sun conjunct moon, both in 7th house, mars and pluto. -Mars is the ascednat ruler and conjunct pluto. - mars and pluto in 7th house - Sun conjunct pluto - venus and mercury in 1st house
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anska5 Knowflake Posts: 230 From: Registered: Jun 2018
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posted February 07, 2019 01:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: In my case I wasn't obsessed at all. Not even with the one who had his Moon, Venus and Mars in my 8th H. I just liked talking to him.
P.S. It doesnt sound like you were even a little bit attracted. I think synastry can only play out if there is a basic natural attraction. It can't create a connection out of nothing. After all I'm sure we walk passed hundreds of people every day or meet them in daily life where the synastry might be hot on paper, but if there is nothing, not even the slightest bit of attraction, that synastry can't play out. You can have great hot synastry with a 5 year old, or the disgusting neighbour, doesnt mean it will play out romantically. I remember I had mindblowing synastry with two colleagues, but not in my wildest dreams would there have ever been attraction... So I think these questions about who feels what more only applies to 'couples' where at least it was established that there WAS indeed some kind of attraction, either romantic or sexual. Not nothing from the start from at least one party, so there is indeed no connection to work with.. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted February 07, 2019 04:47 PM
Yes I have 2 guy friends and I won't mention all the aspects we have synastry wise but I can tell you that yes, just because its a very strong aspects, it does not mean it leads to attraction. For ex with my guy friendsPerson 1- my crush has his moon in my 8th conjunct my venus-jupiter-n.node. I have such deep feelings for him. Person 2- He has his Mars and Moon in my 8th conjunct my venus-jupiter-n.node. I feel and never fell anything romantic for him. He feels like a brother to me! I'm not attracted at all to him.
So, just because someone has moon in your 8th synastry won't automatically lead to feels.. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 08, 2019 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by anska5: He is not interested now, I agree, but it's a complicated story and initially he definitely was. We live in different countries, so we are not talking long distance as in 1 hour drive away. Initially he was very intense, we met at work and even travelled back to my country just for a party I invited him to. Anyway, it's too complicated a story. We had a misunderstanding the night of the party which I think changed everything for him and I think which made him switch on his head so to speak. There is also a considerable age difference, so I can completely see and agree with his argument that a relationship other than a ONS isn't really possible and it would be different, according to him if I lived there. Bottom line is, my feeling is that there is also an emotional connection from his side, but he's decided to shut it out, because it's not realistic. But of course I could be deluded. Regarding other strong synastry aspects it's all there: Strong tight aspects to his moon. Opposite ascedants, my ascendant in his 7th house Strong aspects to his 8th, 7th house and 5th house rulers. moon conjunct mars, Venus opposite mars, mars trine venus, venus and sun conjunct uranus and neptune 8th house rulers conjunct 8th and 5th house rulers conjucnt His venus and mars rulers as well as his 8th house ruler conjunct my ascendant, My sun, venus and mercury conjunct his ascendant In composite we have: -Sun conjunct moon, both in 7th house, mars and pluto. -Mars is the ascednat ruler and conjunct pluto. - mars and pluto in 7th house - Sun conjunct pluto - venus and mercury in 1st house
P.S. It doesnt sound like you were even a little bit attracted. I think synastry can only play out if there is a basic natural attraction. It can't create a connection out of nothing. After all I'm sure we walk passed hundreds of people every day or meet them in daily life where the synastry might be hot on paper, but if there is nothing, not even the slightest bit of attraction, that synastry can't play out. You can have great hot synastry with a 5 year old, or the disgusting neighbour, doesnt mean it will play out romantically. I remember I had mindblowing synastry with two colleagues, but not in my wildest dreams would there have ever been attraction... So I think these questions about who feels what more only applies to 'couples' where at least it was established that there WAS indeed some kind of attraction, either romantic or sexual. Not nothing from the start from at least one party, so there is indeed no connection to work with..[/B][/QUOTE] That is why I asked you if you have planets in his 5th and 7th houses. Good aspects mean nothing by themselves, you have to take into consideration the natal aspects and placements of each native and the houses activated (both in natal charts and synastry). For example.. Let's say that you have "ideal" synastry aspects with someone, he activates by his personal planets your 5th (romance, fun, casual sex) and 7th H (marriage, ideal partner) you'll be attracted to him, you'll see him as an ideal partner, so you'll fall for him. Now in this ideal synastry you activate his 3rd (communication) and 11th (friendship) houses so he will probably like to communicate a lot with you and will consider you as someone who is friend material.. So your good synastry aspects will show that you feel comfortable with each other, have similar tastes & values or you are at least somehow synchronized without much effort needed to do so. You may be similar or suitable for each other in many ways, however you'll find him suitable for being your man while he'll find you suitable for being his best friend. That is why houses are so important. I've read this online "no matter how good synastry aspects you have with someone if your personal planets don't occupy his 5th, 7th, 8th houses he won't be interested in you emotionally-romantically" From personal and a little non personal experience I would say that this is accurate. I've known someone who had: • almost all his personal planets in my 5th H. I was very attracted to them (it has happened twice) and I wanted to flirt with them non stop, they made my heart beat like crazy. However I didn't want anything more than that with them. • 3 and 4 personal planets (two different men) in my 7th H. I somehow ended up being like in a "relationship" with them.. it felt right even though I wasn't crazy for them as with the ones mentioned above. It's just felt natural. • His Moon in my 8th H, the other one his Moon, Venus and Mars in my 8th H and 3 men with their Sun and Mercury in my 8th H. I loved chatting with them especially the ones with their Sun & Mercury in my 8th H but nothing special emotionally. The ones I've fallen for had their personal planets in my 5th and 7th H.. I was in love and I wanted a relationship with them, they were ideal for me. However the last one has his personal planets in my 5th, 7th AND 8th houses.. The difference with the ones I've fallen for in the past is that with the last one I want the merging thing too. I don't think it can get better than that. The problem is that in my case I already have at least one planet in my 5th, 7th and 8th Houses so it might play its role.. Same goes for my friends so the 5th, 7th and 8th H may work for us because we have at least one personal house in them.
So I can't say if someone with those houses being empty is going to feel the same way. We have to keep in mind that not everyone in a relationship is in love with the one he/she is with. Another example about what I was talking about in the begining is the classical "great synastry aspects". Someone who has hard Venus aspect in his chart he will possibly be attracted to people whose planets make hard aspects to his Venus instead of the ones who make the so called good aspects. I'm one of them. Having Venus conjuncting Mars and squaring Pluto I have never been attracted, not even compatible with someone whose Venus/Mars conjuncts/trines/sextiles my Venus/Mars. However the opposite applies to my Moon.. My Moon makes a trine to my Sun and I dislike it when someone's personal planet forms a challenging aspect to my Moon. A good astrologer pro or not can see actually everything. I've been lucky enough to meet one (actually two but one of them helped me for years). In case of compability and what will happen with someone they analysed each natal chart, each progressed chart, each natal chart's transits, Solar Returns for each and synastry, they didn't really bother with davison/composite maybe because I wasn't in a relationship with the men i was interested in. I don't know. To be honest based on what you're telling us and on my good intuition you're making excuses, it seems like you want him and he doesn't care unless he gets sex.. he isn't interested, he may habe been interested or he might made you believe thay he was interested in the begining in order to make you fall for him. He may even have a wife/family/girlfriend. What bothers me is that he wants just sex. If he liked you more than that he would choose to completely stop seeing you or he would prefer to have a distant relationship. Being ok with having sex whenever he cans but not wanting you to communicate like you are in a relationship seems to me like he is not interested at all. A distant relationshiop is tge easiest type of relationship for a man to keep. He gets sex, freedom and all he has to do is communicate with his girlfriend. Anyway that's my Pluto and Neptune talking. However if it takes you less than a year to get over someone then go for it, keep on trying, you never know. But if it takes you more than that to get over someone then it isn't worth it your time I believe. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6198 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 08, 2019 08:56 PM
@Plut0nian2 what about 4th house overlays? I’ve read that 4th house overlays are good for relationships as well. Because the two people feel comfortable with each other? You mentioned 5th and 8th house overlays. So what if someone’s Moon falls in my 5th house? I read that the Moon person would be romantically attracted to the house person. What if one persons 7th house ruler makes an aspect to the other persons Asc? Or if the planet that’s in their 7th house aspects the other persons planets? This guy has Saturn in his 7th house and his Saturn squares my Mercury and contraparallels my Moon. My 7th house ruler conjuncts his Moon. In the composite chart we have Venus in the 8th and Jupiter in the fifth. The 5th house ruler Mars sextile Saturn. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 09, 2019 03:48 PM
@ChildofVenusWhatever personal planet falls in someone's 5th H I consider it to be very positive. I love this particularly because I've observed that it's able to make people overcome their differences in hobbies/values/tastes/etc. That happens because the natives don't care about what they do, the important thing is that they do it with each other, so it's fun because of who they're doing it with, not because of what they're doing. It's different to Venus positive aspects that show similarities in tastes/values etc si it's kind of convenient because they happen to like similar things. That is not bad by any means but to me it's sad how many people are with someone just because it's convenient due to their similarities.. So they choose someone in order to have company at doing what they like doing. The 5th H makes it easy for someone to be with you because it's heartfelt and it doesn't feel like you're sacrifising yourself in anyway. Whatever you do (even boring things) are fun simply because the other person is around. As the 5th H person I have a weak spot for the planet person and my heart beats faster around them from joy. It feels mutual. When it comes to the Moon, I think it will be way more affected by the 5th H person compared to other personal planets because the Moon is reflective and emotional. Now as the 4th H person (my 4th H is empty) I've felt familiar with the planet person but it's nothing special to me by itself. It's kind of boring actually since the planet person feels so familiar it's like a brother in a negative way. I can't see him as smth more unless he activates other important houses. I think aspects to the 7th H ruler don't have any significant power if at all. I mean it's not similar as having your planet in someone's 7th H by any means. It has to do with the aspect and the houses the planets fall. So if your planet is square his Saturn (which is his DSC's ruler) it's not the same as occuping his 7th H. So I would read it as your planet square his Saturn, and you planet in his x house.. you can analyse it even more but this is the main idea and the rest may add a few more details. Mercury square Saturn isn't a good one but I don't think it's the worst one either (like Moon-Saturn or Mars-Saturn). However the trap with Saturn is that it reveals itself later, as it happens with all Saturn aspects. In Mercury square Saturn the Saturn person may find the Mercury person a bit stupid or immature, it may be his logic/ideas/way of thinking or communicating etc. The Mercury person feels Saturn's disaproval and may start to talk less in order to not get that feeling of Saturn's disaproval. It may end up to them avoiding talking with each other. Others aspects should be considered of course. Keep in mind that I don't have much experience when it comes to synastries (let alone composites/davison) I might have read carefully about 30-40 synastries because most of the time people can't find the other's person birth time. So synastries I've seen with an uknown birth time do not count for me. I completely lack experience when it comes to composites and/or davison. I can't have an opinion but I tend towards not "believing" into them mainly because the ones who helped me as I mentioned in my previous comment didn't need any composite/davison. Natal charts, Synastry, Transits and Progressions were enough to predict actually everything with 100% accuracy. There is another reason too but I'm not well enough informed so I won't talk about it. *Sun-Moon midpoint works wonders in synastries though IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6198 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 09, 2019 04:40 PM
@Plut0nian2 Yes I'll admit that Mercury square Saturn can be really bad. His Mercury is in my 3rd house and also sextiles my ASC so I think that helps somewhat. Personally I like 4th house placements in synastry. To me it feels comfortable I feel that I can trust the person and they feel like family to me. But my IC is in Scorpio so that could be why I like 4th house overlays. IP: Logged |
aamhz Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Dec 2018
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posted February 09, 2019 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: This is interesting, I hvae read other "8th house moon synastry" threads in this forum and the majority in them believed and felt it was the house person who felt it more.Also, for ex if it was someones sun in your 8th, sun will shine on your 8th house and with its light bring out anything that is secret and deep and ugly etc. Its rays will be very harsh and exposing for the house person. With moon, moon and its light is a reflector. It reflects back the energy thats in your 8th. So you are being reflected back your own "deepth" so to speak. Its like, you are looking at a mirror, not at the planet person. Or, the planet person is just projecting back you to you. And the planet person is not the one that feels it more, its the house person, often times depending on other stuff.. This is what I read in other forums and also in threads here if I don't missremember it..
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Bismarck Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted February 09, 2019 09:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by anska5: P.S. It doesnt sound like you were even a little bit attracted. I think synastry can only play out if there is a basic natural attraction. It can't create a connection out of nothing. After all I'm sure we walk passed hundreds of people every day or meet them in daily life where the synastry might be hot on paper, but if there is nothing, not even the slightest bit of attraction, that synastry can't play out. You can have great hot synastry with a 5 year old, or the disgusting neighbour, doesnt mean it will play out romantically. I remember I had mindblowing synastry with two colleagues, but not in my wildest dreams would there have ever been attraction... So I think these questions about who feels what more only applies to 'couples' where at least it was established that there WAS indeed some kind of attraction, either romantic or sexual. Not nothing from the start from at least one party, so there is indeed no connection to work with..
That completely undermines the point of astrology. quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Yes I have 2 guy friends and I won't mention all the aspects we have synastry wise but I can tell you that yes, just because its a very strong aspects, it does not mean it leads to attraction. For ex with my guy friendsPerson 1- my crush has his moon in my 8th conjunct my venus-jupiter-n.node. I have such deep feelings for him. Person 2- He has his Mars and Moon in my 8th conjunct my venus-jupiter-n.node. I feel and never fell anything romantic for him. He feels like a brother to me! I'm not attracted at all to him.
So, just because someone has moon in your 8th synastry won't automatically lead to feels..
Not to be rude, but then you're probably doing astrology wrong. Astrology either works or it doesn't. If there's nuance, then the nuance must be explained through astrology. Have you examined house activation? What house does p1's moon rule? Read this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/221321.html
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Bismarck Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted February 09, 2019 10:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: Another example about what I was talking about in the beginning is the classical "great synastry aspects". Someone who has hard Venus aspect in his chart he will possibly be attracted to people whose planets make hard aspects to his Venus instead of the ones who make the so called good aspects. I'm one of them. Having Venus conjuncting Mars and squaring Pluto I have never been attracted, not even compatible with someone whose Venus/Mars conjuncts/trines/sextiles my Venus/Mars. However the opposite applies to my Moon.. My Moon makes a trine to my Sun and I dislike it when someone's personal planet forms a challenging aspect to my Moon. A good astrologer pro or not can see actually everything. I've been lucky enough to meet one (actually two but one of them helped me for years). In case of compatibility and what will happen with someone they analyzed each natal chart, each progressed chart, each natal chart's transits, Solar Returns for each and synastry, they didn't really bother with davison/composite maybe because I wasn't in a relationship with the men i was interested in. I don't know.
Mind sharing the name/contact of this really good astrologer you know? Also, isn't a conjunction a hard aspect? Why wouldn't it trigger your venus? IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 02:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: @Plut0nian2 Yes I'll admit that Mercury square Saturn can be really bad. His Mercury is in my 3rd house and also sextiles my ASC so I think that helps somewhat. Personally I like 4th house placements in synastry. To me it feels comfortable I feel that I can trust the person and they feel like family to me. But my IC is in Scorpio so that could be why I like 4th house overlays.
Hmm do you have planets in there? If not could it be that this feeling occurs because of positive Moon aspects maybe? Also dos he has planets in your 5th and/or 7th h? That's my problem with the synastries I've seen, there is no variety because all happem to have personal planets in 5th, 7th and 8th H (3 of my friends). So it maybe works for that reason. I should find someone who doesn't. On the other hand it's supposed to work for everyone because those houses are called love/relationship houses naturally. IP: Logged |
Bismarck Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 02:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: Hmm do you have planets in there? If not could it be that this feeling occurs because of positive Moon aspects maybe? Also dos he has planets in your 5th and/or 7th h? That's my problem with the synastries I've seen, there is no variety because all happem to have personal planets in 5th, 7th and 8th H (3 of my friends). So it maybe works for that reason. I should find someone who doesn't. On the other hand it's supposed to work for everyone because those houses are called love/relationship houses naturally.
But are the houses being activated? meaning are the RULERS being aspected. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 03:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bismarck: That completely undermines the point of astrology. Not to be rude, but then you're probably doing astrology wrong. Astrology either works or it doesn't. If there's nuance, then the nuance must be explained through astrology.
Have you examined house activation? What house does p1's moon rule? Read this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/221321.html
Exactly. Everything (including past and future) can be seen via astrology the problem is we don't know how to combine all those charts we need to see and understand what they're telling us.
quote: Originally posted by Bismarck: Mind sharing the name/contact of this really good astrologer you know? Also, isn't a conjunction a hard aspect? Why wouldn't it trigger your venus?
I would gladly do it but I don't have any of his info, he used to be a member of another astrology forum and he disappeared about a couple of years ago. That is why I used past tense. I've been very lucky in the past for some reason and it was at the point that I had accepted that astrology worked but I was getting disappointed because predictive astrology seemed too general and like no one really could do it accurately. So I had doupts that astrology could work as a predictive tool but I was confused how it could work so good when it comes to analyzing someone. That was my thought.. it either works or it doesn't. That's when I had most of the people who predicted things for me once or twice accurately without asking me questions in order to find an answer which would be more based on logic instead of astrology. I was surprised by those people too but it was that one person who helped me for years and he had been accurate everytime.. (including horaries). At that point you couldn't find infos for me like you can now, so it was impossible for him to know things he did. If you know what I mean. I admired him so much, I wish I could read charts like him. I hope he is doing well and nothing bad hapoened to him. As for conjuction of personal planets to Venus I see them as positive, I'm not attracted to Leos at all. (My Venus, Mars and Jup are in Leo) People's planets I like will have a Cap Venus which inconjuncta my Leo placements, other Cap and Scorpio planets (which squares my Venus) and sometimes a bit of Aqua which opposites my Venus. Those though happen to be the signs of my 5th (Scorpio), 7th (Capricorn), 8th (Aqua) houses. Plus all these Leo planets are in my 2nd H of Taurus and squared by my Pluto in 5th. It's like I attract almost the same person again and again. IP: Logged |
Bismarck Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 03:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I would gladly do it but I don't have any of his info, he used to be a member of another astrology forum and he disappeared about a couple of years ago. That is why I used past tense. I've been very lucky in the past for some reason and it was at the point that I had accepted that astrology worked but I was getting disappointed because predictive astrology seemed too general and like no one really could do it accurately. So I had doupts that astrology could work as a predictive tool but I was confused how it could work so good when it comes to analyzing someone. That was my thought.. it either works or it doesn't. That's when I had most of the people who predicted things for me once or twice accurately without asking me questions in order to find an answer which would be more based on logic instead of astrology. I was surprised by those people too but it was that one person who helped me for years and he had been accurate everytime.. (including horaries). At that point you couldn't find infos for me like you can now, so it was impossible for him to know things he did. If you know what I mean. I admired him so much, I wish I could read charts like him. I hope he is doing well and nothing bad hapoened to him. As for conjuction of personal planets to Venus I see them as positive, I'm not attracted to Leos at all. (My Venus, Mars and Jup are in Leo) People's planets I like will have a Cap Venus which inconjuncta my Leo placements, other Cap and Scorpio planets (which squares my Venus) and sometimes a bit of Aqua which opposites my Venus. Those though happen to be the signs of my 5th (Scorpio), 7th (Capricorn), 8th (Aqua) houses. Plus all these Leo planets are in my 2nd H of Taurus and squared by my Pluto in 5th. It's like I attract almost the same person again and again.
Are you repulsed by people who put planets in your second house? I've often heard that negative contacts to pluto is repelling for the pluto person. That would make sense in your case. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 07:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bismarck: Are you repulsed by people who put planets in your second house? I've often heard that negative contacts to pluto is repelling for the pluto person. That would make sense in your case.
Hmmm.. I was thinking about what you said here. My first thought was "then why doesn't it happen the same with Aquarius which negatively aspects both my Leo and Scorpio placements? It doesn't make sense" However my 8th H which is ruled by Pluto naturally is in Aqua. So is Saturn which means that opposes early Leos. But you know what. My friend who is born 2 days before me has the exact same planets as me, almost same degrees. Our difference is houses and Moon signs. Unlike me she is drawn to Aries with a mix of Leo or Libra. Unlike me. Especially Aries is the worst possible for me. So Except of her Moon which is in Capricorn while mine is in Pisces. We both have Cancer Sun, Mercury, South Node. Leo Venus, Mars, Jupiter squaring Pluto (hers are even more exact than mines). Neptune and Uranus in Cap, Pluto in Scorpio, Saturn in Aqua. Everything is the same. However she attracts Aries with Leo and/or Libra. So this case proves that 5th (Leo), 7th (Libra) are important in her case 1st house too unless her being so atracted to Aries is because of her Sun-Moon midpoint in Aries. (it happens that all have their Aries planet close to the degree of her midpoint) However she isn't compatible with them (majority of her planets are in Capricorn and Cncer) even though she is attracted to them.. I like Taurus but I always see them as friends (my 11th H is in Taurus) I can not see them as something more no matter how much I like tghem unless their chart is full of Capricorn or Scorpio. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6198 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 10, 2019 08:15 AM
I thought if the 5th and 7th house rulers were aspected that would be significant. In the composite chart we have Venus in the 8th house and Jupiter in the 5th house. And there is a square between Venus square Jupiter. The Venus/Jupiter square does play out whenever we are together. We have a nice time together.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6198 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 10, 2019 09:31 AM
Are 5th, 7th and 8th house overlays significant in regards to living together? I think that's where the 4th house comes in. I might enjoy being with, dating or spending time with someone who I share 5th, 7th or 8th house overlays with. But when it comes to really living and long term I think you need 4th house overlays. What's that saying? Home is where the heart is.IP: Logged |
Bismarck Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Are 5th, 7th and 8th house overlays significant in regards to living together? I think that's where the 4th house comes in. I might enjoy being with, dating or spending time with someone who I share 5th, 7th or 8th house overlays with. But when it comes to really living and long term I think you need 4th house overlays. What's that saying? Home is where the heart is.
Or aspects to the moon, or 4th house ruler. quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: Hmmm.. I was thinking about what you said here. My first thought was "then why doesn't it happen the same with Aquarius which negatively aspects both my Leo and Scorpio placements? It doesn't make sense" However my 8th H which is ruled by Pluto naturally is in Aqua. So is Saturn which means that opposes early Leos. But you know what. My friend who is born 2 days before me has the exact same planets as me, almost same degrees. Our difference is houses and Moon signs. Unlike me she is drawn to Aries with a mix of Leo or Libra. Unlike me. Especially Aries is the worst possible for me. So Except of her Moon which is in Capricorn while mine is in Pisces. We both have Cancer Sun, Mercury, South Node. Leo Venus, Mars, Jupiter squaring Pluto (hers are even more exact than mines). Neptune and Uranus in Cap, Pluto in Scorpio, Saturn in Aqua. Everything is the same. However she attracts Aries with Leo and/or Libra. So this case proves that 5th (Leo), 7th (Libra) are important in her case 1st house too unless her being so atracted to Aries is because of her Sun-Moon midpoint in Aries. (it happens that all have their Aries planet close to the degree of her midpoint) However she isn't compatible with them (majority of her planets are in Capricorn and Cncer) even though she is attracted to them.. I like Taurus but I always see them as friends (my 11th H is in Taurus) I can not see them as something more no matter how much I like tghem unless their chart is full of Capricorn or Scorpio.
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Are 5th, 7th and 8th house overlays significant in regards to living together? I think that's where the 4th house comes in. I might enjoy being with, dating or spending time with someone who I share 5th, 7th or 8th house overlays with. But when it comes to really living and long term I think you need 4th house overlays. What's that saying? Home is where the heart is.
Yeah ask me about it. Most of my relatives have planets in my 4th H and I hate living in the same house with them, plus I don't feel close to them at all actually. Of course they have planets on Aries, Libra and Aqua including their Moons. So it's natural that I wouldn't get along with them. However they still have planets in my 4th H, it doesn't help at all. In my case it's Moon. A friend born a few days before me (not the one I mentioned above) has again same planets but Moon in Sag. I can't stand it when she comes into my home it's bad. However the other one with the Cap Moon is one of the people I could live with the rest of my life. Ot's pretty easy for me to understand if I can live with someone or not based on the Moon. 5th H has to do with live, fun and children too. 7th H is the most typical and serious part of relationship. 8th H is the house of sharings too. It's not a coincidence that these are called relationship houses. However if 4th H works for you then that's ok. One of my friends picks guys who have some of their planets in her 2nd H because they make her feel secure materially/financially.. hiwever I see that the ones she's been in love with are the ones who have their planets in the relarionship houses. Others have 10th H synastry houses because they are getting married for money/status etc.. Is it real love? Probably not, it may work though depending on each charts. Especially if they haven't met anyone who has rocked their world it's even easier, because they don't know how good it can be. Others have a flirty nature and are more interested in variety so they don't expect the "goid" one they just wanna try as much (Jupiter in 5th H in Aries could be like that for example). There are many possibilities that's why the natal chart matters. As I said I have a few examples but all of them tell the same story so far. My Cap Moon friemd is a good example because Aries and Libra make negative aspects to mist of her planets. She is never actually compatible with them but she just gets crazy for them including Leo (her 5th). She would tell me 3 different natal chart and she would be like "Guess who makes my heart beat like crazy" and I would find it just by that. However if the 4th H works for you then it's perfectly ok. Tgere may be smth explaining it like some aspect to your planets etc.
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bismarck: where is her ascendant?
Late Pisces, her 1st H includes whole Aries sign IP: Logged | |