posted April 18, 2019 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, this is what I mean... but they "look" cold sometimes, cause they're very realistic, down to earth... at least this is how a very lunatic aquarius/piesces sees them sometimes, lol

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Possible. It's all about perspective. My brother with Pisces Moon used to accuse me of being unfeeling and on the other hand, I find him too emotional. I've a Sag Moon. I'm actually caring but I don't show.

posted April 18, 2019 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Possible. It's all about perspective. My brother with Pisces Moon used to accuse me of being unfeeling and on the other hand, I find him too emotional. I've a Sag Moon. I'm actually caring but I don't show.

But I admit to having problem showing my emotions "healthily" when I was young. I've a 7H Moon conjunct Neptune opposite Venus, square Mars, trine Jupiter. It shows that I've a sensitive, empathetic Moon... but I couldn't show it.

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posted April 18, 2019 02:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I don't see Taurus looking cold as I see Virgos though... I feel Taurus' warmth a lot, even when they act a little inflexible... well, maybe that's because I'm taurus Moon... so I probably can relate to their sensitiveness. with Virgos it is weird for me, cause I know they're sensitive and caring, but at the same time I feel they're cold, lol. One of my best friend is Virgo, I know how much she cares and how giving she is, but I've never seen her showing her emotions, and my father is the same! Oh I admire them so much for their self-control!
(oh sorry if this is all off-topic btw!)

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posted April 19, 2019 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@ScorpieScorp,

Such a coincidence that my guy is also a Libra Moon-Pluto-NN (tight orbs). Pray tell, are Libra Moons really as "cold" as what people said despite having an aspect to Pluto? My guy once told me he's someone w/o much emotions. I wonder if he's just saying that to upset me or to hide his vulnerability, or for real. Or he's simply just not that into me.

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Hmm, not sure on this...I'm a Scorpio Sun, so I do feel pretty deeply, but with Libra Moon I don't really show it easily. I probably mask a lot with a smile and wanting to make things peaceful.

But get me mad, Libra Moon is out the door. I'll let you have it.

Cold? I can be if I feel you are treating me badly--I can shut down and will block you out. But that could be a Scorpio thing.

I don't really understand Pluto/NN so not sure how to comment on that. TBH, I don't relate to my Libra Moon. I also have Libra Venus so I think the Libra part is hard for me separate out by planet. I relate most to my Scorpio Sun and Saturn on ASC.

posted April 19, 2019 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@ScorpieScorp,
And Pluto does wanna protect Moon! I find myself always watching out for him and I get annoyed when people talk bad or try to take advantage of him. I'm also very nurturing towards him but I try not to baby him because I think it'll freak him out.

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Also, I think Moon, at least in the beginning, LIKES it when Pluto is all obsessive about them. If the controlling is light, the Moon will see it as the Pluto does like them and wants to be around them, which with all the obsessing, Moon WANTs some hints to Pluto liking them. I think the intensity is what draws them in the first place.

posted April 19, 2019 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:

Also, I think Moon, at least in the beginning, LIKES it when Pluto is all obsessive about them. If the controlling is light, the Moon will see it as the Pluto does like them and wants to be around them, which with all the obsessing, Moon WANTs some hints to Pluto liking them. I think the intensity is what draws them in the first place.

Mr. Pluto has not shown me any of that...will see with time..kind of early right now. But I know I have definitely stopped by his desk and said hello a couple of times out of almost compulsion...I'm also not in the office enough I guess for him to do that back.

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posted April 20, 2019 01:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Cold? I can be if I feel you are treating me badly--I can shut down and will block you out. But that could be a Scorpio thing.

I don't really understand Pluto/NN so not sure how to comment on that. TBH, I don't relate to my Libra Moon. I also have Libra Venus so I think the Libra part is hard for me separate out by planet. I relate most to my Scorpio Sun and Saturn on ASC.

So getting back to Pluto--do you feel compelled to find a way to be with the Moon? I don't see my Mr.P be controlling at all...but again, we just work together. He does give me attention in a fun way, but he doesn't try to hog me or try to isolate me away from others.

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It could be that your Moon has been coloured by Scorpio with that Pluto conjunction. The blocking out sounds more like a Scorpio thing.

I don't isolate him from others but I like to be physically close to him (compulsive urge to kiss/touch him when he's within reach lol). But I do give him space. When we hang out with friends, I don't stick to him like glue. It's only when something happens I get jealous/possessive/angry. On the other hand, if I get too close to other guys, he'll quietly stare at me. Sometimes he'll say something indirect that sounds like a jealousy... sometimes he'll just walk away.

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Also, I think Moon, at least in the beginning, LIKES it when Pluto is all obsessive about them. If the controlling is light, the Moon will see it as the Pluto does like them and wants to be around them, which with all the obsessing, Moon WANTs some hints to Pluto liking them. I think the intensity is what draws them in the first place.

Mr. Pluto has not shown me any of that...will see with time..kind of early right now. But I know I have definitely stopped by his desk and said hello a couple of times out of almost compulsion...I'm also not in the office enough I guess for him to do that back.

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So what happens after Pluto shows interest? Moon falls back satisfied that they've got what they wanted? Because this is how I feel towards my guy... he drew me in first and after I'm drawn in, he pulls back and plays cool. Made me feel like he's "playing" me.

posted April 20, 2019 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
So what happens after Pluto shows interest? Moon falls back satisfied that they've got what they wanted? Because this is how I feel towards my guy... he drew me in first and after I'm drawn in, he pulls back and plays cool. Made me feel like he's "playing" me.

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When I was Moon in with my Ex in an exact Pluto conjunct Moon, I loved any attention he gave me. The more he gave, the more I became attached. As I said before, it was like were swimming in each other's comfy souls.

posted April 20, 2019 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Is this only for the conjunction/trine/ sextile?

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I've only really analyzed the conjunction. Not sure how the other aspects play out. I'm sure trine and sextile must be nicer.

posted August 12, 2021 05:47 PM            

Pluto has already been there. He is the one who will hold your hand and tell you that in order to be free, you will have to conquer all your fears and let them go. Your past has always wanted to be released. You were the one keeping it inside, suppressed or forgotten. Not the past. The past has always wanted to go away. And now...this catharsis is going to be the path that will lead you to your freedom. Pluto knows what is there in you. He sees. And he is unmoved. He is the only one who will still be there waiting for you when you are finally free. When you have finally remembered that most of all you are love.

posted August 13, 2021 05:02 PM            

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Upon your encounter with Pluto, questions begin to form, questions that seek to be answered. "I was that, I was such. Who am I now, who am I really?", "I didn't know that I could feel like this. I feel...alive. Where am I supposed to go after this? I can't compromise after this", "I feel that I have found myself. And with myself, everything that I have been suppressing, forgetting or fighting with seems to be coming towards me like a huge wave".

Pluto has already been there. He is the one who will hold your hand and tell you that in order to be free, you will have to conquer all your fears and let them go. Your past has always wanted to be released. You were the one keeping it inside, suppressed or forgotten. Not the past. The past has always wanted to go away. And now...this catharsis is going to be the path that will lead you to your freedom. Pluto knows what is there in you. He sees. And he is unmoved. He is the only one who will still be there waiting for you when you are finally free. When you have finally remembered that most of all you are love.

People are asking about Pluto, how Pluto feels, what Pluto wants... This is what he wants. The only thing that he ever wants from you is that you be love. How else are you going to fly high up in the skies with him?... Don't you want to see the light?

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posted August 14, 2021 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
ChildVenus,
Id assume the Pluto person will feel every bit of it, regardless if they are Plutonic by natal. In fact non-Plutonic person could be affected even more because they haven't harnessed the Pluto energy in their nature so a synastrticaly triggered Pluto could hit them in the head like never felt before.

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posted August 14, 2021 01:44 PM              

You can't see freewill in the chart. You can see prior soul plans somewhat, but only in a very generalized and symbolic kind of way.

posted August 17, 2021 12:14 AM            

I do have a strong urge to run from the intensity. It's very much fearing what I desire. He is quite Plutonian natally too though. (His Pluto is also opposite my sun.)

The energy between us is more intense than anything I've felt in my life. I had one obsession with a Cancer sun/moon guy when I was younger, but it wasn't characterized by the absolute fear I feel for the Moon person in this Moon/Pluto conjunction. The fear is kind of good though, like roller coaster fear. (I love roller coasters! My Aries moon likes the challenge/adrenaline.) I find myself approaching and then when he reciprocates too much, I run away. I can only handle interactions with him for so long at a time. For example, I had an opportunity to stay late at work with him, he sort of invited me to. But we had already spent the whole afternoon together and I felt an inexplicable urge to run away even though all I wanted was more time with him. So I cut us short. The same later - we stayed late talking but suddenly, when it came time to say goodbye, he (without warning) kissed me on each cheek and I RAN. Like I actually RAN AWAY. Who does that?! But I will also say - he does the same thing. He clearly likes me, but would turn down casual dates and doesn't respond much over text when I try to initiate a conversation. It's like any overt approach by either of us pushes the other one away, it's too scary and intense. I wonder if it will ever get off the ground... It seems he only wants things to happen organically, if we "happen" to be in the same place at the same time, which can't happen now. Oh, and I even impulsively blocked him on social media because I was sick of the obsessive thinking and felt VERY anxious because he would watch every single story I posted. But then I changed my mind and unblocked him. I'm great (sarcasm!)

posted August 17, 2021 07:10 AM            

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In my Pluto-Moon synastry, I block and unblock plenty (keep in mind, this over six years). he blocked a few too–neither of us seem to take it too personally, which I appreciate. It’s more like pushing a personal Time-Out, rather than a gesture of contempt. Since it’s happened enough, I’m not embarrassed to react like this online if I need to, it’s for myself. Pluto aside, Telecommunication is technically already an invasive platform on its own.

lol I once asked him, “On a scale of adoration to contempt, where you at?” he laughed and replied “that’s a hard one” 😄

I’m Pluto

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posted August 17, 2021 08:28 AM            

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ChildofVenus, I can speak to this. I'm the Pluto person in a tight Moon/Pluto synastry conjunction, and I'm hardly Plutonian natally. (I think Orange is right about it being harder to handle.) Of course there's a lot of other stuff going on in the synastry, but the obsession is real. Strong desire to protect him. Strong desire to nurture him, though that may be the Cancer in my chart. The desire to just learn about him and take care of him. Urge to defend him. Frustration with him for feeding into his own pain. I guess I do kind of want to boss him around. But most of all, I have the urge to transform him emotionally and spiritually. (Our Pluto/Moon conjunction in Scorpio in his 12th house.) I want to open him up.

I do have a strong urge to run from the intensity. It's very much fearing what I desire. He is quite Plutonian natally too though. (His Pluto is also opposite my sun.)

The energy between us is more intense than anything I've felt in my life. I had one obsession with a Cancer sun/moon guy when I was younger, but it wasn't characterized by the absolute fear I feel for the Moon person in this Moon/Pluto conjunction. The fear is kind of good though, like roller coaster fear. (I love roller coasters! My Aries moon likes the challenge/adrenaline.) I find myself approaching and then when he reciprocates too much, I run away. I can only handle interactions with him for so long at a time. For example, I had an opportunity to stay late at work with him, he sort of invited me to. But we had already spent the whole afternoon together and I felt an inexplicable urge to run away even though all I wanted was more time with him. So I cut us short. The same later - we stayed late talking but suddenly, when it came time to say goodbye, he (without warning) kissed me on each cheek and I RAN. Like I actually RAN AWAY. Who does that?! But I will also say - he does the same thing. He clearly likes me, but would turn down casual dates and doesn't respond much over text when I try to initiate a conversation. It's like any overt approach by either of us pushes the other one away, it's too scary and intense. I wonder if it will ever get off the ground... It seems he only wants things to happen organically, if we "happen" to be in the same place at the same time, which can't happen now. Oh, and I even impulsively blocked him on social media because I was sick of the obsessive thinking and felt VERY anxious because he would watch every single story I posted. But then I changed my mind and unblocked him. I'm great (sarcasm!)

I think though that it plays strongly into my disorganized attachment style. I would find myself staring at him from afar but unable to handle eye contact with him for long. (Ooh, those incinerating Scorpio moon eyes!)

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Thank you for your input that sounds similar to my situation. But instead of the conjunction it’s the square. One thing I don’t really understand is when Orange says it’s not effective if either person has it in their natal chart. Because that means you’ll have it with others in your generation. I have Moon square Pluto in my natal. And yes I do have this aspect with several people. The Moon/Pluto aspect usually shows up in most of my synastry. Whether it’s the trine, opposition or square. But I only feel it with the one where my Moon is in their
8th house.

It’s intense for me too I don’t really know what to think about this aspect. I just know that this is the first time I’ve experienced anything like this. Like really being able to the persons energy. But I think it’s the 8th house influence.