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Topic: What does Pluto want in Pluto/Moon Synastry?
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Randall
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posted March 10, 2022 03:42 PM
  
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sashavittoria
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posted March 19, 2022 10:43 PM
Adding this fascinating new experience I had... I met someone recently whose moon is exactly opposite my Pluto. And I LOATHE this guy. I mean I LOATHE him and it's pretty clear he hates me too. We are polite, but clearly dislike one another and classmates perceive us as "rivals" even though we do nothing to contribute to such a perception. We also have DW sun opp moon. He is a mirror to me and it is U-G-L-Y!  Anyway I thought it was interesting that the "obsession" of Pluto isn't always a desirous one... IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted April 04, 2022 06:51 AM
I think Pluto only cares if he feels like he's losing control over the Moon. Or if it seems like the Moon is losing interest etc. I believe him seeing me talking and carrying on with someone else makes him feel a certain way. It's crazy though because this is basically a generational aspect.
But I guess it might be different since my Moon is in his 8th house. As long as I'm giving him all of my attention he's ok. But if I'm talking to someone else and not acknowledging him that's a problem. But we aren't in a relationship I can talk to who ever I want. He said he's in a relationship so I don't know why he acts like that. I guess I am the blame partly because I do still flirt with him sometimes. And I've told him that I would be there if he needs me. I guess I shouldn't have said that. All these years I've gone given him my attention. And now he's seeing me give it to someone else. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 04, 2022 06:36 PM
I have Moon opposite Pluto and Venus square Pluto in my natal chart. I also frequently have Moon-Pluto and Venus-Pluto come up in synastry with other people.As a man with these aspects, I can't separate the idea of love from power. When you love someone they have power over you and that is no fun, especially when you have had your trust abused over and over. When I like someone I am very hesitant to let her know, especially now with all the political stuff and the fact that it feels politically incorrect to be a heterosexual man anymore. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted April 04, 2022 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have Moon opposite Pluto and Venus square Pluto in my natal chart. I also frequently have Moon-Pluto and Venus-Pluto come up in synastry with other people.As a man with these aspects, I can't separate the idea of love from power. When you love someone they have power over you and that is no fun, especially when you have had your trust abused over and over. When I like someone I am very hesitant to let her know, especially now with all the political stuff and the fact that it feels politically incorrect to be a heterosexual man anymore.
I have Moon square Pluto in my natal chart. And I don't really let people get close to me. I have Moon square Pluto with most people. But I never actually felt it until my Moon was in the Pluto person's 8th house. Otherwise Moon square Pluto in synastry I don't feel. For years I gave the Pluto person my attention. And I guess he got used to it. And now seeing me giving it to someone else he doesn't like it.
I won't lie I did tell him that I would always be here for him if he needs me. But things happen and I there is nothing wrong with me giving someone else my attention when he's around. IP: Logged |
Randall
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sashavittoria
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posted August 01, 2022 02:34 PM
I have to say, as Pluto in these situations, it is f***ing horrible. I've been the Pluto person in two trines and a conjunction now and it is just the most brutal rejection I've ever felt. This may be partly due to Pluto being in my 5th house and receiving a square from Saturn in my 8th. But damn.The conjunction was definitely my worst, most intense obsession that lasted for about a year. But the trines are pretty bad too. With the conjunction, feelings seem to be mutual but the Moon person is in a relationship and they also have their Pluto opposite my Sun. The first trine was a really bad obsession that lasted for YEARS and the moon person did not reciprocate at all. With the second trine, the moon person seems to reciprocate interest but is resisting. In none of the three cases did anything ever work out, yet they've been my most intense crushes/obsessions. Why do I never have real relationships with these people? Probably the obsessive energy I'm putting out. But obviously there are other synastric factors at play too. Anyway I just hate Pluto/Moon aspects so much. Next time I see it I am going to RUN. IP: Logged |
Cancermoon83
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posted August 01, 2022 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Do you have Moon/Pluto aspect in your natal?I've explained my feelings as Pluto in another thread. I feel obsessed; can't stop thinking about him. Probably because of his natal Moon/Pluto, I could feel his intensity the first time we met. When we looked into each other's eyes, it was like he was staring into my soul. I felt uncomfortable but mesmerised. I resisted it in the beginning but it sucked me in. Soon I became obsessed. Like Moon, I can gradually feel calmer if I don't see him for awhile but the moment I see him *BAM* I'm back to square one. I can also feel angry and jealous if he shows others more attention. As Pluto I feel very possessive... I tried not to be but I couldn't help it. I know I can easily rile him up and I can manipulate him in a certain way but I don't like to do it. Pluto loves Moon... doesn't like to see Moon unhappy. It probably doesn't feel as intense in a friendship but in a love r/s it feels very strong... like all or nothing. I've experienced the trine with my ex but I didn't feel such compulsion.
Wow this description is spot on! I'm both the moon and pluto in a double whammy square with a guy. We also have our moon exactly opposite of each other,which means we also have a pluto-pluto conjunction. My pluto is also square to his sun and his pluto is sextile my venus and mars.The only way to describe my feelings for him is that I wish I had met him years ago so we could both be single,cause he is so fascinating in my eyes. I really can't pinpoint what I like so much about him,cause he is just a regular guy,not particularly handsome or charming or anything else.
I also calm down if I don't see him for a while,but the moment I see him I am back to day one. It's like a drug this pluto energy.
I think i feel it more as the pluto person,cause as the moon I am used to the square in synastry, but being the pluto feels slightly different. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 01, 2022 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Cancermoon83:
Wow this description is spot on! I'm both the moon and pluto in a double whammy square with a guy. We also have our moon exactly opposite of each other,which means we also have a pluto-pluto conjunction. My pluto is also square to his sun and his pluto is sextile my venus and mars.The only way to describe my feelings for him is that I wish I had met him years ago so we could both be single,cause he is so fascinating in my eyes. I really can't pinpoint what I like so much about him,cause he is just a regular guy,not particularly handsome or charming or anything else.
I also calm down if I don't see him for a while,but the moment I see him I am back to day one. It's like a drug this pluto energy.
I think i feel it more as the pluto person,cause as the moon I am used to the square in synastry, but being the pluto feels slightly different.
I get anxious if I don't see the Pluto person for a while. Unless I'm distracted by someone else. I once went a year without seeing the Pluto person. And when I saw them that energy was so intense I felt like I was being swallowed up.
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Randall
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Stawr
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posted August 10, 2022 09:50 PM
My husband(Pluto) does not get jealous a lot but he can. He doesn't always pick up on vibes with me and someone else, but sometimes he can. He saw me interact with a guy at a party. (before I told him that he asked me out when we started dating.) Well after that interaction my husband make sure to spank my butt as we walked away from him. That night my husband told me(moon) that he is not going anywhere. I also have Lilith/Pluto/Electra conjunct his Pluto. IP: Logged |
Emma170684
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posted July 02, 2023 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
As the Moon person with the square that's how I feel too. There is an energy that I feel when I'm in his presents that I've never felt before. Especially when I go long periods of time without seeing him. The last time it was so strong it felt like a magnet pulling me it's so heavy. I just don't understand this feeling. And why I don't feel it with anyone else.
I’m the Pluto person in a Pluto square moon aspect. 3.9°
I felt that magnetic pull as well. It was so intense, I never felt that with anyone but him. I’m 39 and we met at 12 years old. (But we’re together now)
I think he’s extremely sensitive and I know I can hurt him, I try to be very careful. I assumed he was simply sensitive/vulnerable/ touchy even - but I never considered that as Pluto it could be deeper from me.
funny thing is that he did tell me he didn’t think he could get hurt by me, originally.
We have other deep/intenses aspect but to try to stay on this aspect, we connect emotionally. Deeply. The words we say resonate in each other and stir deep stuff up. I don’t think we could do casual if we wanted to, haha. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m Pluto… but I do want to change him. And I don’t like that. I want to change stuff like… the fact that he’s wasting his life with bad people, smoking and drinking and easily trusting others . He got so hurt, I want to protect him so that he will never feel pain again. I’m very protective of him. But sometimes when he ****** me off, I have to consciously pay attention not to hurt him. I don’t mean to, but my choice of words or the things I need to tell him (for example things that scare me or things I don’t think I could handle in him)… make him scared of losing me. But when we connect… it can be so beautiful… I know we both feel the uniqueness of this bond. I’ve had deep relationships before, but nothing came close to this. As Pluto I want to know everything about him. I’m fascinated by the smallest stuff. I love to learn details, like puzzle pieces. Collecting information about him is one of my favorite things to do. I love when he talks about memories or why he’s the way he is.
He’s on the narcissist side so I doubt he feels that towards me. Not sure that it’s related to the moon Pluto aspect though haha.
I know he likes when I tell him things I love about him. Why I love him. Our relationship is also extremely intense physically (vertex/mars, my Pluto trine sun Venus and asc., his Pluto square asc) so the connection is both physical and emotional. Can’t determine if it’s true love, because I’m in the euphoria of the beginning at this point. We connect through shared pain. I understand his wounds and he can relate to mine. I feel like we heal each other as well, but I think that’s related to Chiron. So for the moon Pluto square… I don’t think Pluto is necessarily the bad guy who wants to control. I am jealous and possessive - more so with him than with anyone else. I would like things to change in him. But… I don’t think it’s fundamental things about him?
I think about him constantly. I can’t go two days without news, I get restless. I think he hates when I’m not available for him. And he’s very jealous and possessive as well.
But I want to be with him. Know him. Love him for the rest of my life. As long as it’s healthy…ish hahaha And one last thing, a poster mentioned something about wanting to devour the soul - it’s a little much… but maybe it depends on the orb or other aspect in Synastry or nataly. I do want him deeper than I’ve ever felt. When we’re together we’re so intense, the world around can disappear. We’re that couple that sit next to each other in restaurants because they can’t seem to stay more than half an inch from each other. It’s also romantic and full of naivety - not sure this comes from this aspect though. And the wanting to devour him… I want to get closer and closer. Kinda… fusion with him sometimes. So, sex is very deep and meaningful for the both of us.
I actually wonder how can normal relationships work after a Pluto one, everything would seem so dull and lack passion? Anyway, that was really long sorry! IP: Logged |
SimplyLuna
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