posted November 23, 2019 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I believe your Saturn-Nodes DW is the strong glue here.

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posted November 23, 2019 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I'm still not sure about Saturn being a must-have in Composite, or if you have it, it necessarily glues. My friend has cSaturn conjunct Sun/Mars with her ex but there's no glue. The relationship only lasted 3 mths and it was unstable from the start. Their cUranus squares took the centre stage instead in creating distance, hot/cold feelings and sudden break-off. I noted that they have Saturn contacts in Synastry but no DWs in major aspects.

Another couple friends with barely any Saturn in Composite except squares to Nodes have stuck together for 3+yrs despite conflicts. In fact, their Synastry is plagued by Uranus squares/oppositions. But they have Saturn trine/square Moon DW, Saturn conjunct ASC, trine Mercury.

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posted November 24, 2019 06:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
But you probably have another Saturn aspect in the composite.

In a synastry I have with someone we have a sun/sun and mercury/mercury square. In the composite it became a mercury/mars square.

A mutual aspect might not create an aspect in the composite between those two exact planets if the aspects aren't the same both ways, but it might create another aspect, such as Saturn trine ASC or Saturn in the first.

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We have cSaturn square Mars/Nodes/Uranus and trine MC/Neptune. -_-" It doesn't make sense for energy to not show in composite when it's a DW in synastry.

posted November 24, 2019 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Yep, we also have strong vertex, nn, ascendant, and MC connections in our progressions and solar returns.

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posted November 24, 2019 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Are prog vertex/nodes significant? Our prog angles are also conjunct and we've some Vertex/Nodes contacts too but I usually only look at personal planets in progression.

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posted November 25, 2019 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
a Saturn conjunct Moon in the composite can be quite gluing yet it can be for better or worse. But relationships needs other elements to work of course. And if there are destabilizing aspects they tend to override the good things too. And then we have to check for aspects with midpoints which can be relevant.

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posted November 25, 2019 12:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I think so. They're still a part of how your chart grows and the energy you're projecting or attracting. Our AC/DC, MC/IC, vertex, and nn's are all conjunct for many years to come. Our planets fall in different places but make contacts and aspects. When we met, his (and mine) vertex was on my natal ascendant. Next year, they (vertex) will conjunct his natal ascendant.

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That's nice. Is this your s/o? Btw, do you use "ARMC 360°/prog.day" option when generating your prog charts? When I use that option, the angles and Vertex became different. In fact, they move so fast it became meaningless.

posted November 25, 2019 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
That's nice. Is this your s/o? Btw, do you use "ARMC 360°/prog.day" option when generating your prog charts? When I use that option, the angles and Vertex became different. In fact, they move so fast it became meaningless.

But if I use the default progression option, our angles will also conjunct for many years. I'm thinking that's because we have angles conjunct in tropical synastry. His pVertex is also conjunct my nASC ruler, his pSN conjunct my pMC/Mars/Jupiter. My pIC conjunct his nMoon/NN.

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posted November 27, 2019 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
For progressions, it's one day after birth for each year. Profections are different and you can use different tables but I usually use the solar arc option. It uses 0°59 and calculates your arc.

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posted November 27, 2019 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Which is the most accurate way of progression anyway? When I used the Solar Arc option, the angles aren't much different from the default option, 4-5° off. Vertex position is the same.

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From my experience, and looking back at certain ages from my own progressions, the day to year chart is pretty accurate, along with solar returns.

posted December 01, 2019 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
From my experience, and looking back at certain ages from my own progressions, the day to year chart is pretty accurate, along with solar returns.

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The different charts confused me as well. We have a lot of Solar - Natal connections but I'm also not sure if it means anything. Haha..

His SR Venus/Mercury conjunct my nVertex.
His SR Moon conjunct my nJupiter DSC ruler.
His SR NN conjunct my nSaturn 8H ruler.
His SR Jupiter conjunct my nMoon.
His SR IC/Uranus conjunct my nSun.
His SR Vertex conjunct my nJuno.
His SR Lilith and my nLilith conjunct.

posted March 02, 2025 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Does it have to be a DW? What if it's Moon trine Saturn and Sun sextile Saturn?

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I think DW is the glue, otherwise it is one sided, with one person holding on the relationship where the other wanting to get out... The example you give is a DW.

What I have also seen is that the aspects cannot be all challenging like squares or opposition. There should be some easy supporting Saturnian aspects such sextile, trine, and some cases, conjunction. Otherwise, the people will stay together for a long time, then will have a very bitter divorce in their old age.