posted January 30, 2020 11:05 AM            

We have pSun-Venus square when we met and it will continue to square until I die. 😄 If this aspect drives people apart, how did we manage to come together? pSun-nVenus will quincunx some 10yrs later with pSun-Venus contra-parallel. I didn't know we consider the quincunx aspect but it's shown on your chart.

Our first year was unstable, on/off but our rs took a turn when his pMoon come close to exact conjunction with my nSun last year. We started a serious rs... no more on/off.

pVenus quincunx nMars and it's exact now. pVenus-Mars also in parallel and contra-paralle. 2023-2031 will also have pMars-nVenus trine and pMars-pVenus opposition. Some years later there's also pVenus-nMars parallel.

pVenus and nVenus at a wide trine now and will come below 2° in 2022. Far ahead in the future (13yrs later lol) we will have pVenus conjunct nVenus and pVenus parallel nVenus.

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posted January 30, 2020 03:08 PM            

Mum's progressed Sun was trine my Dad's Sun.
Her progressed Venus was square his Venus.
Progressed Mars square his Sun.

Dad:
Progressed Moon square her Sun.
His progressed Venus/Mars were conjunct, trine her progressed Venus.

They met in 1968, and were engaged by that December, so the progressions don't change much. I don't have an exact date, but I do have a handwritten letter that dad sent to my grandmother, from England, where he talks about how happy he is, and that he can't wait for his family to meet her. When they were engaged, my Mum's moon was trine his Sun. Her time of birth is iffy - I had an approximate time, but her progressed Venus is conjunct her progressed descendant.

In their natal charts, her Venus is conjunct his Jupiter, and trine his Venus. Her Mars is square his Sun, and conjunct his Saturn, his Mars is trine her Sun.

When they split up a decade later, her progressed Venus was still trine his progressed Mars/Venus exactly, and had moved past a trine to his Sun (for him, a conjunction - a few degrees past).

When they reconnected, again a decade later, and remarried within a year:

posted January 30, 2020 10:43 PM            

But that all shouldn't even be mentioned with that DW VM parallel at this current moment. It's a clear 1-0 for VM in deks now

It all makes even more sense with that pMoon conjunct nSun aspect which triggers that GO~FOR~IT feelin! The big start and the big end, entirely putting your world upside down but at the same time so naturally fitting, that is this aspect.

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I also checked my friend and her boyfriend's pSynastry. They've nothing other than a pVenus-nSun contra-parallel which will separate next year. They've been together 3+yrs which means the contra-parallel alone is enough to bring them together?

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posted January 30, 2020 10:54 PM            

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- My parents' wedding day. They met in 1968, and were engaged by that December, so the progressions don't change much:
His progressed Venus/Mars were conjunct, trine her progressed Venus.

- In their natal charts, her Venus is trine his Venus.

- When they split up a decade later, her progressed Venus was still trine his progressed Mars/Venus exactly,

- When they reconnected, again a decade later, and remarried within a year:
Their progressed Venus still trine. Her progressed Mars trine his natal Venus (and hers)

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pVenus trine pVenus is a rrreal nice one and often one of decades if not for life. If you don't differ that much in age and you already have a Venus-Venus trine in natal synastry then there's a reasonable chance you might reap the fuits of it for a pretty long time.
The reason for their temporary split - when the VV even exact - leaves us in the dark here progressed wise. Although I think at the least they (both) must have been highly energized for change which is seen in pMoon making a 4th harmonic (conj/opp/square) aspect to their nSun or pSun (a natal thing so not synastry).
On the other hand their reconnection falls at its place with a new fresh wonderful trigger of her pMars trine his nVenus (and her own) exactly what we would expect.

Prince William and Kate have a pV-pV trine for decades.

posted January 31, 2020 12:48 AM            

when I got married and when we met before that, the graph shows no activity between the three planets ( V-V, V-S or V-M), like empty block for that time.

posted February 03, 2020 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Hikaru's case is interesting. There is not only a SV square (for life whuh!? - it is possible but never came across one) but also some other interesting things that might overrule this, or DO overrule!

- pVenus-Mars also in parallel and contra-parallel (that's a DW there in deks!)
- 2023-2031 will also have pMars-nVenus trine and pMars-pVenus opposition. (not within the window of effectiveness yet -2023- BUT in some cases it might be felt a bit earlier and will be already acted upon). Same case for this one:
- pVenus and nVenus at a wide trine now and will come below 2° in 2022.

But that all shouldn't even be mentioned with that DW VM parallel at this current moment. It's a clear 1-0 for VM in deks now

It all makes even more sense with that pMoon conjunct nSun aspect which triggers that GO~FOR~IT feelin! The big start and the big end, entirely putting your world upside down but at the same time so naturally fitting, that is this aspect.

It seems it is, keep up updated.

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I'm surprised too. When we met, the pSun-Venus square was hovering just above the green line at 2.28°. It's sliding down to below 2° and will stay there till 2050. By then I'll be 75yo... probably dead.

pMoon conjunct nSun gave us a jolt, especially him since it's his Moon.

posted February 03, 2020 02:34 AM            

My friend and her new boyfriend:
When they met, they have pVenus square nVenus and her pMoon conjunct his pSun.

Their Venus-Venus is separating but they'll have pVenus trine nSun and pSun-nVenus parallel next year. His pMoon will also trine her pSun in 9mths' time.

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Another friend with her guy (not stable yet, broke up once):

When they met, they've pVenus-Mars parallel and this will last till 2036. In 2022 they will have pSun-nVenus parallel.

posted February 03, 2020 09:30 AM            

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My friend and her new boyfriend:
When they met, they have pVenus square nVenus and her pMoon conjunct his pSun.

Their Venus-Venus is separating but they'll have pVenus trine nSun and pSun-nVenus parallel next year. His pMoon will also trine her pSun in 9mths' time.

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Here it would be the pSun-Venus already having its influence and the pSun-Moon conjunction delivering the expected trigger.

btw: another trigger option is pMoon conjunct NATAL Ascendant

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When they broke up/patched back last year they had pMoon square nSun.

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I guess you mean syna wise?

Just mentioning this cause haven't seen people taking it into account here and it would be a pity if you miss such a big thing which will leave you flabbergasted with an unceasing focus on it and in my opinion should be incorporated in ANY reading. Cause you know, one has to be READY for change, being energized in making the steps for it:

I keep saying the BIG changes of life which OFTEN include the start and ending of a relationship can be seen in the personal progressions of pMoon to natal Sun or pMoon to progressed Sun in a 4th harmonic aspect, so: Conjunction, opposition, square.

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We've like a bunch of VM stuff going on now till 2031 and like you said, might be the aspects that brought us together. But is Sun-Venus the primary aspect to look at? And if the square is separative, what will likely happen as in our case, it has been and will be always there? Is the quincunx also separative?

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posted February 03, 2020 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I guess you mean syna wise?

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Yes, her pMoon was applying 2° square his nSun when he abruptly stopped contacting her. Two+ months later he suddenly wanted to see her again but not with commitment. The square is separating now so I'm thinking their rs might get better since they have pVenus-Mars parallel supporting them.

I just realised my pMoon will conjunct my guy's nSun in the 2nd half of 2023. Hope Moon-Sun does not always mean start/end of a rs but just a change.

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it would be most interesting to see what happens when those are all gone with only the square left

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posted February 04, 2020 01:45 PM            

2016 - 1 degree window starts nV-pM CP. (we reconnected at the end of 2016 after many years. this time romantically. But no commitment yet)

2020 - married prior to actual readiness (it's still very up and down and unstable). Long story. this isn't even in the 2 degree window of the beginning of the nV-pS trine! Right now i THINK he has pMoon opposite pSun (theres a new start/end). Thus marriage?

2021 - nV-pS trine starts window of effectiveness at 2 deg. Lasting until 2025.
2021 his pMoon conjunct my nSun. My pMoon opp his nSun. No hard aspects between our own natal to prog sun/moon.

2023 - nV-pS trine exact and effective until 2025.
We will both have pMoon square nSun or pMoon square pSun (me).

2025 - nV-pM CP becomes exact and effective until 2034. (is this enough to keep us together?)

2032 - nM-pV CP window of effectiveness starts.

2038 - nM-vP CP exact and effective until 2060.

2042 - pV-nS P window of effectiveness starts.

2044 - pV-nS P becomes exact and effective until 2046. This year also pV-pS CP window starts. Exact 2047 and effective until 2050.

posted February 12, 2020 02:06 PM            

I haven't looked at the luminaries during the Start/End-of but I might do that later. So here the SV VM and VV of Madonna and her longest relationships (left out the short ones of >1)

Madonna with...

Dan Gilroy (1979-1981):

It's interesting to see they broke up at an EXACT Sun-Venus square. They got together when this square started to become effective and only made it down to the peak of it. The wonderful VV and VM trines couldn't save them. Sun-Venus here is clearly the most powerful.
@ an already separating but still effective VV parallel might have been a catcher as well during the start as we see.

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Sean Penn (1985-1989):

Again we see Sun-Venus being the prominent aspect at the start. But this time not in the longitudes but in the declinations. They survive its entire window of effectiveness and a bit more. However the already effective VV parallel during their split doesn't have the power to sustain the flame.

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Guy Ritchie (1999-2008):

And again - like with Sean Penn - nothing special in the longitudes during start BUT.. Sun-Venus at work in the declinations. When this one starts to leave the window of effectiveness another SV there starts to become effective which they entirely survive as well. SV and VM in deks at its end and they separate. VV in deks here again doesn't have the power to sustain the flame.
- they survive a SV square (2002-2005)
- They split up during a SV conjunction although that one is close to leaving the window of effect. and another SV square is approaching this window then.

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posted February 12, 2020 02:23 PM            

And again.. a SV conjunctions starts to become effective in 2010. But that one would last until 2026 and they separate in 2013 when a VM opposition leaves the effect window.
I am not entirely sure of his birth data but most sources say 6 sept '86 so took that one. Some say the 9th and only astro.theme says year '85 (??).

deks:

Well what can we conclude until now?
SV is definitely the most powerful...

posted February 13, 2020 09:20 AM            

Good to hear that, same here.

-----It's very foretelling but also confusing that those same aspects that bring two people together, also show up when the partners separate, this is frustrating. I see that in my petsonal examples as well.------

I believe so much has to be learned yet, I already feel order and structure (or: magic) arise after 1 celebrity dating history case which is hopeful.

-----it's also fascinating that declinations figure in as strongly as the regular aspects.------

It truly is yes...

-----if you create a database thru the link you provided and check your personal synastry graphs , you will see that Paul Westran also counted Sun on the DSC in his forecasts.-----

posted February 13, 2020 11:55 AM            

check this out , and marvel at the universe decoded language!

when me and him started our relationship,
he had a progressed declination Full Moon - Prog decl for his Moon was 17'0 N ,
prog decl for his Sun was 17'15 S
and my Prog decl Asc/Dec was 17' N/S

posted February 13, 2020 02:53 PM            

But I'm all in for a much bigger focus on the luminaries and for sure yes also in deks (declinations). So it's magic enough to me that he had that deks FM (full moon) when it all started between you. Yes that is what we expect during the start whether that be a (contra-)parallel between Sun and Moon in deks or a 4th harmonic aspect in the longitudes.

-------check this out , and marvel at the universe decoded language!

posted February 13, 2020 09:15 PM            

The method you described seems to show a progressed angle that makes a round over the entire zodiac for a calendar year, that's too fast and erratic. We don't change that fast. We need time to built up a change and a normal naibod progression seem more normal. my ASC has progressed into Taurus from my natal Pisces asc, and that's two signs away. seem like a normal progression...

posted February 13, 2020 10:50 PM            

Progressing one degree a day is pure madness, however, it changes so quickly, one cant keep up with it. How can your planets progress so slowly and you along with them throu the years, but have the ASC change so rapidly like a clock completely disconnected from the rest of the slow moving chart. It doesn't make sense.
I associate progressions with slow evolution as a whole, the entire chart slowly changes and shapes as the years roll. I can understand our outer expression and connection with the world (asc} slowly changes along and in unison with the rest of the chart.