posted February 14, 2020 09:57 AM            

Astrology is a language, therefore it must be as consistent, elegant, synchronous and truthful as the cosmos is. The insertion of solar movement in place of Earth’s rotation is arbitrary and mixes the metaphor. Many will say they have noticed life events, changes, etc, in sync with this old Naibod method of progressing the Asc. So have I, but to read a mixed metaphor and be able to relate to its imagery does not mean it has expressed truth. The first standard of truth we have in astrology is the physical reality of in mundi rotation in nature synchronous with planetary movement. Who are we to decide because another sophisticated mathematical formula can be applied to symbolically rework
a phenomena of physical nature that we should?

posted February 15, 2020 04:02 AM            

When my parents got married, they have 2 VM trines. Five years later their 2 SV squares came into effect and stayed effective for 5yrs. By right this should have caused a breakup? But my sister and I were born during these few years so it is safe to assume they were having a good relationship. Their VM trine singlehandedly took them through the first 18yrs of their marriage.

My parents only started to have SV trine 26yrs into their marriage. Before that it was way too far to have any effect (10°). During this time they have another VM trine so it seems that VM is the prominent feature in their relationship.

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My friend and her late husband - when they married they had SV and VM contra-parallel but SV went out of effect 1.5yrs later. Another yr later their VM square came into effect. They remained married till his death.

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posted February 15, 2020 07:56 AM            

I just read this from P. Westran:

Sun Venus squares are more likely to accompany difficult times than separation per se. Most couples have tough progressions at some point. Venus Mars squares are much harder to traverse than Sun Venus. That said, I don't know how useful natal synastry is. We can assume things, but they are difficult to test.

posted February 16, 2020 07:00 AM            

My friend and her late husband also didn't break up when their VM square came into effect. I don't know if tensions occured but from what I know their marriage was never rocky. When he found out about his illness, their pSV contra-parallel came into effect.

posted February 16, 2020 11:18 AM            

Friend of mine same story: a SV square already effective during his passing.

Another friend survived a SV square after some years marriage without much problems. The thing that was going on: they had a fight against the outside world which led to court etc. But together they were thick as thieves. They broke up when another SV square was coming up some years later.

The one I considered my ideal partner for years I shared a long SV square (result retro venus) with (nothing else). We couldn't forget about each other wile he was together with a girl he had all the nice trines with from the start. Since our VM square came in orb (and SV left the effect window) there is no connection at all anymore. Def. more harsh! Can't even think about him anymore, not that he did something wrong. It was me radically breaking without a way back cause I wanted to get him out of my mind. Now that I see there is absolutely nothing progressed wise for us in the future... I have a little regret that I was so harsh (being Mars if that matters).

Some examples just off the top of my head.

------As in if they have a good synastry it might help them overcome bad progressed aspects?

That might be the case yes. So the SV VM and VV "softies" especially within the 2 deg orb. Although I heard Westran say he feels that progressions are stronger. And now he doesn't even know how useful natal synastry is. I get that.

------My friend and her late husband also didn't break up when their VM square came into effect. I don't know if tensions occured but from what I know their marriage was never rocky. When he found out about his illness, their pSV contra-parallel came into effect.

posted February 16, 2020 12:16 PM            

I looked at my friend's comp pMoon which supposedly also shows relationship phases. During their pVM square, their pMoon was sweeping through their stellium (conjunct prog comp Sun/Psyche/Juno/Venus/Chiron and conjunct comp Vertex/DSC/Chiron). I believe this is the reason why their VM square didn't cause a split. They have a nice SV conjunction in synastry but also a contentious Mars-Mars square.

posted February 16, 2020 03:04 PM            

I wish I could look at that. Him and I were very close last year and watched their prog synastry on his pc a little while ago and I forgot the data of his ex wife. Point is I recently broke with our friendship as he's feeling way too much (for me) and I felt so suffocated by him whether or not being in his presence. So I had no choice than to stop it all and as such can't ask it anymore.
The only bad aspect in his chart is an exact Venus-Neptune square while Venus being his chartruler! Now THAT was felt - whatever I told him about not-having-ANY-chance on me he kept dreaming aaghh - ... and these are our progressions (not the least!) so as we see, it can also feel scary and too much and I MIGHT have had a sixth sense for the upcoming future !

Deks:

Your friend's natal SV conjunction would be nice and that DW sextile/trine SV of your parents for sure as well!
Don't know what to think about those Compo Moon hits tho.

posted February 19, 2020 10:15 AM            

it turned out based on the graphs that they had p. Mars conj n Venus in synastry when they started and got married in 2005, and then they had the dreadful p Sun - p Venus square when they got divorced in 2015.

posted February 21, 2020 09:15 AM            

Born with retro Aqua mars conjunct NN by 5 deg but in the progressions it's minutes from exact now (exactly trine uranus as well).

posted March 02, 2020 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
http://astrowin.org/scripts/prog_synastry_chart.php

As most here will remember, there's done extensive research into Venus progressions and it is clear now that during the start of a relationship we often - if not always - find a Sun-Venus or Venus-Venus or Venus-Mars trine, conjunction or opposition. The Square between those pairs of planets is famous for driving people apart.
Once those goodies are gone (left the window of effectiveness in the graphs) and no other goodies replacing them we expect the end of a relationship.

In the program linked here we also find an option to calculate the progressed declinations. No research done with those but it might be significant so check it out as well. Breaking new ground.

Ofcourse not only the "start of" a relationship is interesting but also the realm of friendship or simply "being smitten with...?" as with the latter I found those prog goodies (often exact) on this board countless times without exception.

Check it out and share!

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What if now, at the same time, a couple has in natal-to -progressed synastry:

1. sun-venus trine (within 2 degree orb)
2. mars-venus square (up to 3 degree orb, the couple has is also in a natal synastry, so the mars in one's progressed chart is retrograde).

any ideas?

posted March 03, 2020 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Annerice:
What if now, at the same time, a couple has in natal-to -progressed synastry:

1. sun-venus trine (within 2 degree orb)
2. mars-venus square (up to 3 degree orb, the couple has is also in a natal synastry, so the mars in one's progressed chart is retrograde).

any ideas?

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posted March 03, 2020 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
So did the SV trine bring the couple together?

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posted March 11, 2020 09:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Annerice:
No, not yet, it is still within 2 degrees orb.
I wonder if the mentioned mars-venus square hinders that.

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