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Saggy7
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posted September 10, 2020 04:15 AM
  
I am trying to learn about Davison chart, what is the purpose and what makes it different from the Composite? I know some prefer one or the other.. would love to hear opinions about this.I have never posted a Davison chart before, so I will post it now, both corrected and uncorrected (not sure what that means) in hopes someone can interpret it. I have posted this as a Composite before, so would like to see the difference.
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posted September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
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posted September 11, 2020 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Saggy 7 :- quote:
I am trying to learn about Davison chart, what is the purpose and what makes it different from the Composite? I know some prefer one or the other.. would love to hear opinions about this.
Within the astrological community, opinions on this differ considerably. ... My personal view is that :-1. Natal-to-natal synastry comparisons show the issues that each of the two people bring into the relationship, and can be resolved via their interaction with each other (if they have the will + determination to do so). 2. The composite chart shows how the two-people "team" is seen by others. 3. The davison chart shows why the two people are in the relationship ... In other words, it shows the purpose of their relationship.
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I have never posted a Davison chart before, so I will post it now, both corrected and uncorrected (not sure what that means)
The MC of the composite and davison charts are rarely at exactly the same degree/minute/second. ... Some astrologers choose to "correct" this, and others choose to use the "uncorrected" davison chart. (I use the uncorrected chart, as that is the one I believe to be correctly calculated/"true".)
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I hope someone can interpret it.
Anyone that can interpret a natal chart can also interpret a Davison natal chart - since both are analysed, interpreted and synthesised in exactly the same way. ... Thus, the 'purpose' of both the individual and davison natal chart is "to make the sun shine" - and the barriers to achieving that objective consist of whatever issues are 'promised" by the astrological indicators of the natal chart. So ... why not first attempt to interpret this Davison Chart yourself, and use the members here to help develop your own expertise in that branch of astrology? (Just like learning to drive a car, all the experienced drivers on the road have made the same mistakes that you will - because that's an essential part of learning any new skill.) IP: Logged |
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posted September 11, 2020 03:45 PM
Hi Graham!Thank you for the clarification. You are absolutely right, the best way to learn is to do it yourself with some guidance along the way. I noticed you mentioning Davison natal chart, the one I posted is between 2 people. The first thing I noticed is all these Mars squares.. Mars sq Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres...I would assume it could be concerning The next big thing I notice is the 7th house stellium in Scorpio, should be quite significant in an intense emotional/sexual way.. Pluto is also there and Ceres (not sure what the meaning of Ceres is) I see Saturn, Uranus, Juno and Cupid in the 8th house, again should have a good meaning.. Eros is on Mars, this was discussed before in a Composite, adds to intense sexual attraction. Eris on NN in the 12th and close to the AC, not sure what this would mean.. Psyche and Nessus in the 5th, could be a good thing for Psyche not sure about Nessus The best aspects that I notice are Sun conjunct Moon/Venus, Moon conjunct Venus, Sun conjunct Pluto, Venus conjunct Pluto, Sun conjunct Ceres (I did some reading, but still not sure how to interpret Ceres), Jupiter trines to Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres, Mercury conjunct Saturn and a few others maybe less significant.. Some of the most troublesome appear to be as noted before Mars squares, Jupiter squares and I just now noticed Venus square Eros (will have to do some research on this aspect, not sure if it is good or bad) Im sure I am missing a lot of the good and bad, but this is what stands out to me the most at first glance. Ps. Also Amor is in 12th.. How did I do?
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posted September 11, 2020 04:01 PM
Ok, I guess the best way to describe Ceres is as unconditional love/nurturing aspect. If it conjuncts Sun/Venus, but squares the Mars...would it be that the man is unwilling to nurture/provide unconditional love? And conjunct Sun should be good again, maybe the purpose of rs is to give unconditional love to each other as in case of the conjunction to Venus that woman's love and nurturing will be unconditional?
Jupiter trine Ceres also makes for a positive aspectI am glad to see there are no bad aspects with Neptune. In composite we have Mars sq Neptune, now it is just a few trines/sextiles(correction, also a semisquare to the Moon) Not to mention all these Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres conjunctions are in the 7th house all in Scorpio. Intense intense intense IP: Logged |
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posted September 11, 2020 06:21 PM
Use "Davison Ref. Place Method" under experimental, and set the person with the location closest to where you both first met first in the comparison. It's by far the most accurate, especially if you've had both natals rectified.IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Use "Davison Ref. Place Method" under experimental, and set the person with the location closest to where you both first met first in the comparison. It's by far the most accurate, especially if you've had both natals rectified.
Seems like a good idea ... but, (as does the 'corrected' Davison Chart) it results in using a chart that was not "created in heaven" by the two souls.However, that is just my opinion ... and the astrological indicators in the three charts are unlikely to differ significantly. So, it's probably a matter of choice (and convenience) ... unless the planet-to-angles aspects change significantly. IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Saggy7 :- quote:
I noticed you mentioning Davison natal chart, the one I posted is between 2 people.
The Davison is a natal chart of a relationship, rather than of a person. ... So, one natal chart for this relationship between two people.
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The first thing I noticed is all these Mars squares.. Mars sq Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres...I would assume it could be concerning.
Might be worth stating at the outset whether you are using the corrected, uncorrected or reference-place chart ... and whether or not that matters. (For example, the ascendant is at the anaretic degree in one of the two posted charts.)Listing what you immediately notice is a good idea - as it provides a framework of astrological indicators for you to focus upon. But ... before drawing the chart, decide what orbs you are going to use - as the Astrodienst default is 10 degrees, which produces a lot of aspects that might not be "felt" by the average couple. ... (I use an orb factor of 60%, which produces a maximum orb of 6 degrees - but your preference appears to be 80%/8degs, which is fine.) As in any natal chart, having all planets above the horizon emphasises that Chiron is below the horizon - indicating that the latter is particularly significant in this relationship. quote:
The next big thing I notice is the 7th house stellium in Scorpio, should be quite significant in an intense emotional/sexual way.. Pluto is also there and Ceres
Yes. This should be on your list of "things to look at". quote:
I see Saturn, Uranus, Juno and Cupid in the 8th houseEros is on Mars. Eris on NN in the 12th and close to the AC. Psyche and Nessus in the 5th.
Astrologers that use asteroids should indeed have these on the list of "things to look at". ... Those who do not use asteroids would not include them on that list.
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The best aspects that I notice are Sun conjunct Moon/Venus, Moon conjunct Venus, Sun conjunct Pluto, Venus conjunct Pluto, Sun conjunct Ceres, Jupiter trines to Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres, Mercury conjunct Saturn and a few others maybe less significant..
Yes. ... These are initial observations that should be on the list of things to look at.
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Some of the most troublesome appear to be as noted before Mars squares, Jupiter squares and I just now noticed Venus square Eros
Yes ... Include on the list. quote:
Amor is in 12th..
Include on the list ... to determine/decide later if it is significant. quote:
How did I do?
You have a sizeable list of things to look at. ... Will you now prioritise them, or just adopt an "as long as it takes" approach that looks at them all?And ... since the over-arching purpose of this davison/natal relationship is "to let the Sun shine" ... might it be best to look first at all astrological indicators which involve the Sun? IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Use "Davison Ref. Place Method" under experimental, and set the person with the location closest to where you both first met first in the comparison. It's by far the most accurate, especially if you've had both natals rectified.
I tried doing this, setting the place we met as reference place instead of place of birth (not sure if thats what you meant?). First thing I noticed is house placements change significantly Didnt quite understand "set the person with the location closest to where you both first met first".. we met in the city where he lives, so are you saying put him first and me second without changing the reference place to the city where we first met and leave birthplace as reference place? IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 08:26 AM
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We met in the city where he lives, so are you saying put him first and me second without changing the reference place to the city where we first met and leave birthplace as reference place?
Yes! That is exactly what I'm saying. So for example...he was born in Springfield, IL. and that was the city you guys met, you would use that as the reference place by selecting him first in the comparison. It would be the reverse if he came to your location at the time of the first meeting. Sometimes we don't meet people in our Hometown, so in that case you just select the profile who's closest to the location you met first, no need to change locations. Your souls already determined that you would meet at that location before reincarnation (with a little bit of divine intervention from the universe itself). That's why IMO Ref. Place Method is the most accurate. Make sure you also select the "Topocentric" check box too, otherwise your Moon's will be off. Assuming you use Astro.com, and why it's so critical to have your chart(s) rectified for near pinpoint accuracy, otherwise everything in your chart(s) will be off even more. IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 08:41 AM
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posted September 12, 2020 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by Saggy7 :- [QUOTE][b]I noticed you mentioning Davison natal chart, the one I posted is between 2 people.
The Davison is a natal chart of a relationship, rather than of a person. ... So, one natal chart for this relationship between two people.
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The first thing I noticed is all these Mars squares.. Mars sq Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres...I would assume it could be concerning.
Might be worth stating at the outset whether you are using the corrected, uncorrected or reference-place chart ... and whether or not that matters. (For example, the ascendant is at the anaretic degree in one of the two posted charts.)Listing what you immediately notice is a good idea - as it provides a framework of astrological indicators for you to focus upon. But ... before drawing the chart, decide what orbs you are going to use - as the Astrodienst default is 10 degrees, which produces a lot of aspects that might not be "felt" by the average couple. ... (I use an orb factor of 60%, which produces a maximum orb of 6 degrees - but your preference appears to be 80%/8degs, which is fine.) As in any natal chart, having all planets above the horizon emphasises that Chiron is below the horizon - indicating that the latter is particularly significant in this relationship. quote:
The next big thing I notice is the 7th house stellium in Scorpio, should be quite significant in an intense emotional/sexual way.. Pluto is also there and Ceres
Yes. This should be on your list of "things to look at". quote:
I see Saturn, Uranus, Juno and Cupid in the 8th houseEros is on Mars. Eris on NN in the 12th and close to the AC. Psyche and Nessus in the 5th.
Astrologers that use asteroids should indeed have these on the list of "things to look at". ... Those who do not use asteroids would not include them on that list.
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The best aspects that I notice are Sun conjunct Moon/Venus, Moon conjunct Venus, Sun conjunct Pluto, Venus conjunct Pluto, Sun conjunct Ceres, Jupiter trines to Sun/Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres, Mercury conjunct Saturn and a few others maybe less significant..
Yes. ... These are initial observations that should be on the list of things to look at.
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Some of the most troublesome appear to be as noted before Mars squares, Jupiter squares and I just now noticed Venus square Eros
Yes ... Include on the list. quote:
Amor is in 12th..
Include on the list ... to determine/decide later if it is significant. quote:
How did I do?
You have a sizeable list of things to look at. ... Will you now prioritise them, or just adopt an "as long as it takes" approach that looks at them all?And ... since the over-arching purpose of this davison/natal relationship is "to let the Sun shine" ... might it be best to look first at all astrological indicators which involve the Sun?[/B][/QUOTE]
I was mainly looking at the uncorrected chart because you recommended it from your experience. (So the second one from my first post)
In which one is the AC on the anaretic degree and what does it mean? Is it good or bad? Didn't pay attention to degrees, I am okay with 8 for now, was more focused on aspects that seemed more relevant. Meaning that Chiron wound/healing will be an important theme in the rs? Yes, I think I would like to include Vertex and asteroids, even though I am missing a couple, I also wanted to add Sedna. I will probably look at everything that looks significant, that will be my way of prioritizing, so focus is on all conjunctions/squares/oppositions. Sextiles and trines are not as important in a Composite, I think I read that somewhere? Then I would also look at the angles, MC/IC, DSC/AC and Vertex/Anti Vertex. If something is on or very close to MC, DSC or Vertex, does it automatically mean that it is opposite of the other(IC, AC, Anti Vertex)? Yes. I wanted to do it in my last post, but got distracted. Will look at all aspects from the Sun (I guess even the smaller ones since it is so significant?)
I don't know how to interpret the minus above an aspect when it says -6 above the conjunction for example. Is that tighter or looser than just a 6?
Another thing I don't know is how far can something be from DC for example in order to be able to say that it is conjunct? Does it depend on how many degrees I decide to take into account or is there a general rule? And how do I see it with the naked eye, do I count the little lines?
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posted September 12, 2020 12:39 PM
Now when I added few extra things to the chart, here is what it looks like. I have wondered why some people's charts looked like this like they have a lot going on, and mine never did..now I see it is just in settings
Ok, focusing on Sun
Sun conjunct Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres
Sun opposite Sedna
Sun square Mars/Eros/Orcus
Sun sextile Psyche/MC
Sun trine Jupiter
Sun semisextile Saturn
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posted September 12, 2020 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Saggy7:
I was mainly looking at the uncorrected chart because you recommended it from your experience. (So the second one from my first post)In which one is the AC on the anaretic degree and what does it mean? Is it good or bad? Didn't pay attention to degrees, I am okay with 8 for now, was more focused on aspects that seemed more relevant. Meaning that Chiron wound/healing will be an important theme in the rs? Yes, I think I would like to include Vertex and asteroids, even though I am missing a couple, I also wanted to add Sedna. I will probably look at everything that looks significant, that will be my way of prioritizing, so focus is on all conjunctions/squares/oppositions. Sextiles and trines are not as important in a Composite, I think I read that somewhere? Then I would also look at the angles, MC/IC, DSC/AC and Vertex/Anti Vertex. If something is on or very close to MC, DSC or Vertex, does it automatically mean that it is opposite of the other(IC, AC, Anti Vertex)? Yes. I wanted to do it in my last post, but got distracted. Will look at all aspects from the Sun (I guess even the smaller ones since it is so significant?)
I don't know how to interpret the minus above an aspect when it says -6 above the conjunction for example. Is that tighter or looser than just a 6?
Another thing I don't know is how far can something be from DC for example in order to be able to say that it is conjunct? Does it depend on how many degrees I decide to take into account or is there a general rule? And how do I see it with the naked eye, do I count the little lines?
The minus sign is used when the faster planet has moved past the zero-orb point, and is now moving away from the slower moving planet. ... This is called "separating".No minus sign indicates that the faster moving planet is moving towards the zero orb point - which is called "applying". You can count the little lines, but it is easier to use the aspectarian table beneath the chart image. A conjunction of -6 means the planets are 6 degrees away from an exact conjunction, and moving towards being exact. Each astrologer decides for herself/himself how wide the conjunction orb she/he will allow/consider to be close enough to influence the chart owner. Currently, I use 6 degrees - which is an orb factor of 60% for Astrodienst charts. ... The Astrodienst default orb is 10 degrees, and most astrologers use 8 degrees.
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posted September 12, 2020 03:51 PM
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Now when I added few extra things to the chart, here is what it looks like. I have wondered why some people's charts looked like this like they have a lot going on, and mine never did..now I see it is just in settings  Ok, focusing on Sun Sun conjunct Moon/Venus/Pluto/Ceres
Sun opposite Sedna
Sun square Mars/Eros/Orcus
Sun sextile Psyche/MC
Sun trine Jupiter
Sun semisextile Saturn
Sun inconjunct Lilith
A sun in Scorpio/7th house will shine when it freely expresses what qualities ... And how will being the ruler of Leo/5th house help it to do so? How will being intercepted hinder the sun's ability to freely express itself? IP: Logged |
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posted September 12, 2020 05:15 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Saggy7:
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I was mainly looking at the uncorrected chart because you recommended it from your experience. (So the second one from my first post)In which one is the AC on the anaretic degree and what does it mean? Is it good or bad? Didn't pay attention to degrees, I am okay with 8 for now, was more focused on aspects that seemed more relevant. Meaning that Chiron wound/healing will be an important theme in the rs? Yes, I think I would like to include Vertex and asteroids, even though I am missing a couple, I also wanted to add Sedna. I will probably look at everything that looks significant, that will be my way of prioritizing, so focus is on all conjunctions/squares/oppositions. Sextiles and trines are not as important in a Composite, I think I read that somewhere? Then I would also look at the angles, MC/IC, DSC/AC and Vertex/Anti Vertex. If something is on or very close to MC, DSC or Vertex, does it automatically mean that it is opposite of the other(IC, AC, Anti Vertex)? Yes. I wanted to do it in my last post, but got distracted. Will look at all aspects from the Sun (I guess even the smaller ones since it is so significant?)
I don't know how to interpret the minus above an aspect when it says -6 above the conjunction for example. Is that tighter or looser than just a 6?
Another thing I don't know is how far can something be from DC for example in order to be able to say that it is conjunct? Does it depend on how many degrees I decide to take into account or is there a general rule? And how do I see it with the naked eye, do I count the little lines?
The minus sign is used when the faster planet has moved past the zero-orb point, and is now moving away from the slower moving planet. ... This is called "separating".No minus sign indicates that the faster moving planet is moving towards the zero orb point - which is called "applying". You can count the little lines, but it is easier to use the aspectarian table beneath the chart image. A conjunction of -6 means the planets are 6 degrees away from an exact conjunction, and moving towards being exact. Each astrologer decides for herself/himself how wide the conjunction orb she/he will allow/consider to be close enough to influence the chart owner. Currently, I use 6 degrees - which is an orb factor of 60% for Astrodienst charts. ... The Astrodienst default orb is 10 degrees, and most astrologers use 8 degrees.[/B][/QUOTE]
Ok, first I thought I got it, but then the part with the -6 conjunction confused me.
If minus 6 means the faster planet is moving away from the slower one (separating) how is it that a conjunction of -6 means they are moving towards being exact? Wouldn't it mean the exact opposite, that they are moving even further away from each other? I asked because the table doesn't show everything (or I can't connect the dots), for example it does not show DC, IC etc..
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posted September 12, 2020 05:34 PM
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A sun in Scorpio/7th house will shine when it freely expresses what qualities ... And how will being the ruler of Leo/5th house help it to do so?How will being intercepted hinder the sun's ability to freely express itself?
... intensity, passion, intimacy, depth, bonding... Well since the 5th is about romance, pleasure, games, children...Maybe the best way is to just have kids together? I'm being funny but that's where my mind is going lol and when I think of this person I actually have a very strong desire to procreate with him! And that is not a feeling I get often On a more serious note, I would say it helps that it's the house of romance and emotional pleasure.. Maybe it will want to make light of things and more fun, hindering it from being as intense as it needs to be? IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 01:14 AM
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If minus 6 means the faster planet is moving away from the slower one (separating) how is it that a conjunction of -6 means they are moving towards being exact? Wouldn't it mean the exact opposite, that they are moving even further away from each other?
Plus 6 -> Zero -> Minus 6 ... All are within an allowable orb of (say) 8 degrees, but the first is applying to zero/exact and the second is separating from it. quote:
[b]I asked because the table doesn't show everything (or I can't connect the dots), for example it does not show DC, IC etc..
It does not show DC or IC because they are exactly 180 degrees from the Asc and MC respectively. ... So, a planet that is (say) 60 degrees from the MC is also 120 degrees from the IC.IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 02:08 AM
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A sun in Scorpio/7th house will shine when it freely expresses "intensity, passion, intimacy, depth, bonding"
Yes. ... And passion is the over-arching quality Scorpio.So ... this sun is seeking/learning to freely express passion (Scorpio) with the partner (7th) ... and you'll know from experience how that passion manifests in each of the two partners.
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... Being the ruler of Leo/5th house, this Sun will use romance, pleasure, games, children as opportunities to learn how to freely express passion with an intimate other/partner
Yes.
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Maybe the best way is to just have kids together? I'm being funny but that's where my mind is going lol and when I think of this person I actually have a very strong desire to procreate with him! And that is not a feeling I get often
This may in fact be correct, rather than facetious - as it may be a subconscious desire (Pluto) that is now coming into consciousness (Sun). ... What is certain is that a 5th house desire for children presents an opportunity for each partner to freely express their Scorpio passion.
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Being intercepted will hinder the sun's ability to freely express itself in the house/activities of romance and emotional pleasure..
Yes. ... A strong 5th house urge/inclination to procreate is unlikely to produce fruit if one or both partners are unable to freely express their passion/desires. quote:
Maybe it will want to make light of things and more fun, hindering it from being as intense as it needs to be?
Perhaps so. ... The 7th house is the third house from the 5th, so how the two people communicate with each others is a significant factor here. ... (And my guess is that will be an issue in the natal chart of both partners.)IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 05:26 AM
Thank you so much, Graham!Your last sentence meaning...we both have issues expressing ourselves in general or with each other in particular? Or both? I have one more question. I know that if something for example is conjunct dsc, means it is opposite ac. What about if it is square, sextile or trine mc or any other angle really? What does it do with IC in that case if anything? IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Saggy7 :- quote:
I have one more question. I know that if something for example is conjunct dsc, means it is opposite ac. What about if it is square, sextile or trine mc or any other angle really? What does it do with IC in that case if anything?
Square = 90 deg ... Sextile = 60 deg ... trine = 120 deg So ... IC makes a square with any planets/points that are 90 deg away from it (clockwise and anti-clockwise) ... a sextile with those that are 60 deg away from it ... and a trine with those that are 120 deg away from it. Aspects never exceed 180 deg (opposition) - because they are calculated in both directions (clockwise and anticlockwise). So, there is no 270 deg square; 240/300 deg sextile or 240 deg trine ... Instead, the aspect is referred to as "waxing" or "waning" - with waxing indicating that the faster moving planet is applying to the (180) opposition point and waning indicating that it is separating from the opposition point (in its 360 deg cycle with the slower moving planet).
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Your last sentence meaning...we both have issues expressing ourselves in general or with each other in particular? Or both?
If appearing in the Davison chart, both partners have an issue relating to how they express themselves ... If appearing in the synastry, one partner OR both partners may have that natal issue - but it is activated by an aspect to a planet/point in the natal chart of the other.In this Davison chart though, the issue is in the 7th house - so specifically affecting the ability of each of the two people to express themselves freely with (any and all) intimate others, rather than with non-intimate others. For example ... one natal chart might show an issue with expressing feelings and the partner's might indicate an inability to express desires ... but both partners are learning (via their davison relationship) to be assertive, rather than aggressive or acquiescent. IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 08:58 AM
Thanks again. Appreciate it!For my practice purposes...can you please confirm since MC is square Eris in this Davison chart... if IC is also square Vertex and True Node? I was using MC sq Eris as a reference when looking at the chart, curious to know if I got it right IP: Logged |
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posted September 13, 2020 12:23 PM
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Thanks again. Appreciate it!For my practice purposes...can you please confirm since MC is square Eris in this Davison chart... if IC is also square Vertex and True Node? I was using MC sq Eris as a reference when looking at the chart, curious to know if I got it right
Both True Node and Vertex are square IC ... if you are allowing an orb of 5deg and 4deg respectively. ... However, because neither the nodes nor the vertex/anti-vertex emit light, I'd allow zero orbs for aspects to them (and most astrologers/students are unlikely to allow an orb wider than 1 degree). Nevertheless ... if either partner can "feel" the influence (i.e.. is actually manifesting the predicted/expected behaviour), the aspect is valid no matter what orb is being used by the astrologer.
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posted September 13, 2020 04:13 PM
Where can I see that they are at 4,5 degrees? Im missing that part.IP: Logged |
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Where can I see that they are at 4,5 degrees? Im missing that part.
I'm getting a "cannot connect to server" message when I click on your posted chart images ... so can no longer see/refer to the actual degree locations of the IC, true nose and vertex. However ,,, these are shown in the aspectarian table ... and the 4, 5 degrees differences are IC degree/min/sec + or - the TN/Vertex degree/min/sec.
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