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Graham
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posted March 05, 2021 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
So I have more of an update on the situation, they are getting very comfortable with each other on a physical level now. The guy is not aware of me being aware of this and I don't think she is either. What I find odd is that both take days off at the same time and that had me confused.

Come to find that a coworker who lives near the guy reported that she was making out with him and dressed in very skimpy outfit while doing so near his place, they went into the same room together.

I must have missed something in reading this chart because for the life of me, I could not have imagined it to be this intense.


Seems odd that you might have missed the potential intensity, since several LL forum members pointed it out quite clearly to you.

Maybe you should explore WHY their relationship is generating this level of attention from you.

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posted March 05, 2021 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for julyjuly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
So I have more of an update on the situation, they are getting very comfortable with each other on a physical level now. The guy is not aware of me being aware of this and I don't think she is either. What I find odd is that both take days off at the same time and that had me confused.


They have some nice aspects in the synastry pointing to some kind of relationship between them (can be anything from business to love) like Sun-NN, Saturn-Moon, Sun-Venus etc.
What I find odd is that he is around 27 years old and she 47. Can you post the composite for more info and longevity of the relationship.

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posted March 05, 2021 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
Seems odd that you might have missed the potential intensity, since several LL forum members pointed it out quite clearly to you.

Maybe you should explore WHY their relationship is generating this level of attention from you.


1. Because he works under me and his well-being is directly correlated to my success

2. I did get a lot of conflicting info

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posted March 05, 2021 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
1. Because he works under me and his well-being is directly correlated to my success

2. I did get a lot of conflicting info


Still..speaking as someone in a managerial role myself, him working for you and worrying about the possible fallout for you etc. does not explain that level of interest in his/their private life/attraction between them. That kind of high level of interest is highly unusual, just from an employer to employee relationship. I'm working in a very senior role with multiple employees under me and have a friendly relationship with the majority of my team members i.e. I do spend free time away from work on a regular basis with some of them and I often play counselor reg. personal problems. I have had team members in a stormy affair with each other which did affect their work performance and hence my performance, and it was a major headache to say the least, but not in my wildest dreams woudl I have ever felt an urge to really dig into the nature of their attraction like that. Same goes for people I know in similar positions. I would only ever want to make sure, from a professional perspective, that there isnt any potential sexual harassment going on. But clearly from what is known now, and them meeting up the way they did, they are mutually interested and attracted...and therefore it's now their private life. Her getting worked up about him beforehand and him acting the way he did, seemingly worried, I don't find it unusual in people being interested/curious about each other. Often when people are intensely attracted, especially when it's an inconvenient or impossible attraction or in the workplace, it can show in strange ways. Trying to keep a lid on it, but the emotions still seeping through. Complaining about someone is a weird symptom of feeling the need to talk about the person while hiding your own interest and also needing to find out more about that person. I remember at University two mutual friends ,as it later turned out, were very attracted to each other. I knew about HER attraction for him, but he "complained" to my boyfriend about her always being so touchy feely in their social interaction, allegedly making him feel uncomfortable, asking my boyfriend whether she was so touchy feely with him as well. Anyway, he happened to be into her from the start and they eventually got together...who would have thought. And yes, I do agree oppositons and squares in my experience are THE attraction creators. Friction creates tension/sparks/attraction. In the most magnetic attraction I've every felt the synastry was peppered with oppositions, including a venus-mars opposition which they have as well.
Like Graham said, maybe it would be worthwhile to explore why you really are so interested in his connection to her. To me it sounds like there may be underlying attraction (to him?) that you may not be aware of or admit to yourself.One way or another maybe your synastry would shine a light on why you are so invested in him. The only time I've ever really wondered that much about an employee and his attractions for other women, I eventually realized that I had developed feelings for him without realizing.

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
1. Because he works under me and his well-being is directly correlated to my success

2. I did get a lot of conflicting info


I agree with anska5's reply to this 'defence' by you, plutonianmenace.

You (probably) have an interest in one (or both) of these two people that is not work-related.

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posted March 07, 2021 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is totally warranted for me to have interest in their relationship because it affects my bottom line. Overall it has been a good case study for me because I am close with both of these people and their interactions have incited my curiosity. It is cute to see them ******** at each other lol.

No wonder they say "get a room you two" so much!

I want to continue to learn synastry and this relationship has challenged my views. Can anyone here continue to break down the chart in the OP?

So far what sticks out to me is the Mars-Venus and Mars-Pluto double whammies along with the Mars - BML double whammies.

Here is my question though.

Shouldn't the fact that they are happening in non-sexual houses almost negate the attraction?

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posted March 08, 2021 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
I agree with anska5's reply to this 'defence' by you, plutonianmenace.

You (probably) have an interest in one (or both) of these two people that is not work-related.


Precisely! That's why I stepped away. If the OP is a Mgr of sorts - this is very unprofessional.

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posted March 16, 2021 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not found what I am doing to be unprofessional, the unprofessional part is two people having the fun.

Lately, I have been concerned for the health of my fellow Leo and also the Sag even. They seem to match moods more often now.

Back to the topic though, the more I thought about it, the more I have a tough time believing these two are into each other.

People point to intense aspects yes, but they are all happening in non-romantic houses. I see the Mars-Venus playing out more in an argument and 3rd house matters as opposed to 5th and 8th house matters.

The 5th and 8th houses in this synastry seem relatively weak.

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posted March 22, 2021 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and now they seem to be arguing again

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posted March 23, 2021 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this whole relationship though is a case study for me on passion

like where it was months ago, she wanted him basically fired

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posted April 11, 2021 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is one toxic relationship

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posted April 14, 2021 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
this is one toxic relationship


Well, let's hear it

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posted April 24, 2021 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nah I am just noticing things I hope others noticed too

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posted April 25, 2021 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I have studied synastry before...man this is one intense intense one!

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posted May 03, 2021 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted May 03, 2021 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where is the composite?

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posted May 03, 2021 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think someone earlier on the thread figured the composite out but I am posting it here too in the link below:

https://i.imgur.com/EGtaw7O.png

What's odd is that even in the composite, there is a TIGHT link between the Mars and Pluto.

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posted May 03, 2021 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean the composite does have a stellium in a water house (the 4H) and although Pluto does not conjunct VENUS, the SUN conjuncts VENUS and the SUN conjuncts PLUTO so essentially the SUN is at the midpoint of VENUS and PLUTO bridging VENUS and PLUTO so even though is not a tight stellium perhaps you are feeling it like is a tight stellium because of this midpoint effect, this midpoint stellium falling in the 4H is intensified further bc it falls in a water house that is naturally ruled by the moon which rules our emotions.

Then you have VENUS ruling the IC falling in the 4H reinforcing the strength of this stellium further and its connection to the 4H. Last, the moon is falling in the 1H so emotions are highlighted in this relationship, it may seem like you two are very emotional together and are ruled by your emotions as a couple.

I may be off about this part but you two have the nodes falling in the 6th house and 12th house with chiron conjuncting the 12th house makes me wonder if one of you suffers from mental health issues or if you met at work in a healing profession.

This is interesting, Saturn Retro in the 10th rules your Northnode and your Descendant and saturn retro is all by itself in the top hemisphere so you have THE BUCKET PATTERN in your composite chart and Saturn retro is the handle which seems significant and karmic. Saturn often glues people together so this relationship may have staying power specially when you consider that Saturn rules your Northnode and DC and falls in the 10th house, this is a relationship that will lead to a serious commitment and will go public most likely and that is destined to play out and last IMO.

^^Now it gets more interesting because SATURN is the handle of the BUCKET and its completing a Thor's Hammer which tends to indicate that people will be against this relationship but apparently it won't stop you two from making it official and going public, or perhaps the Thor's Hammer will play out differently but being together will come with its challenges for sure.

Then it gets more interesting when you see that the focus point of the thor's hammer is the stellium in the 4H which reinforces this intensity between you two. Maybe people being against the relationship brings you two closer together and deepens your bond.

I only read the title of your thread so don't know details of your relationship, I just looked at the composite and did not check your synastry but it was interesting interpreting your composite. Perhaps is this intensity between you two and how you appear to the world as a couple ruled by their emotions why people may be against' your relationship.....

OR

With Uranus in the 5th house there is potential for this romance to start out of the blue and end out of the blue or for an unexpected pregnancy to happen and then you two committing to get married as a result which could lead to people been against the relationship, getting back lash from others, perhaps people feel you two are moving too fast but perhaps this is what is meant for you two, to have a family together and it will happen fast and unexpectedly.

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posted May 03, 2021 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not the person in question, it is someone who works under me and someone who is on another team that is their superior.

What REALLY caught my attention though is that Mars sextiles Pluto at a very tight angle but somehow, there is also a mars pluto double whammy in the synastry.

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posted May 03, 2021 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I read the original post now and it seems these two folks work together LOL

Well the stellium in the 4H and the moon in the 1H explains the high emotions between each other and why they trigger each other easily.

Saturn in 10th ruling the northnode in the 6H explains how they met at work and have a working relationship but with Uranus in the 5th house it makes you wonder if they want more and are attracted to each other but bc they work together are not acting on it and feel conflicted about it, at some point they may act on it and the thor's hammer will manifest by others feeling is a bad decision and them being against the relationship.

LOL WHO KNOWS but the intensity of emotions is easily explained by the stellium in the 4H and the moon in the 1H in the composite.

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posted May 03, 2021 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I am not the person in question, it is someone who works under me and someone who is on another team that is their superior.

What REALLY caught my attention though is that Mars sextiles Pluto at a very tight angle but somehow, there is also a mars pluto double whammy in the synastry.


Sextiles are gifts so mars sextile pluto in composite would play nicely in a working relationship, how they trigger each other is better explained by the stellium in the 4H in composite and having Moon in the 1H in composite IMO.

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posted May 04, 2021 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are these emotions more like a sibling rivalry type of emotion since it is the 4th house or did the composite say they are more sexual in nature?

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posted May 04, 2021 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So are these emotions more like a sibling rivalry type of emotion since it is the 4th house or did the composite say they are more sexual in nature?

My best friend from childhood married a girl he had a stellium in the 4th house in, they had a baby together but now are divorced. The irony is they met in another country as they were both studying abroad but now he is stuck in her country to be close to his son.

I think there is a good chance there is sexual attraction bc they have venus trine mars and venus square mars in synastry and mars aspect pluto double whammy.

But I could see what you mean about despite everything they generate good results together professionally bc Saturn in the 10th house is the handle of their bucket pattern so everything gets processed in a sense through Saturn, Saturn in the 10th is in charge yet the focus of the Thor's hammer is the stellium in the 4th house so this is very intriguing. They may start professional but it may get personal but people in their lives may not support this transition.

Intriguing composite, curious to see how this professional relationship evolves.

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posted May 05, 2021 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They seem to have grown really really close together, I have never seen her grow this close with anyone else at the company.

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posted May 06, 2021 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They seem to have grown really really close together, I have never seen her grow this close with anyone else at the company.

Interesting! hahahaha

Keep us posted, curious how this evolves with this composite they have going on

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