posted July 05, 2021 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I get what you mean by invading your comfort zone. Because it's uncomfortable but I have this aspect in my own natal chart. I'm really drawn to this aspect in synastry. I think this might be the first time I've ever had the square before. It's not bad all the time because It's not like we see each other or talk everyday. There is always a certain period of time when we don't interact. Then all of sudden out of nowhere I see him or he contacts me. But when we aren't in contact I'm talking to other people. So I don't think about him as much. When you say they didn't respect your feelings how so exactly? Where they rude or nasty towards you?

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Maybe this contact feels better if you don’t spend too much time together, or it could be your natal square, or both. I meet my guy friend often because we have mutual friends. Initially it felt good as we could share a lot of things but he started to get too close. When I said I’m uncomfortable with that (esp. when I’m already seeing someone else), he ignored me. It’s as if how I feel doesn’t matter. He also started to pry too much and I’ve to constantly explain, justify or made to keep him informed (which really annoys me). Most people back off when I draw my boundaries. Not him.

With my ex he was always gaslighting me… to the point I became confused and doubted myself. He would also lie and play with my feelings. When I eventually shut him out of my life, he had the cheek to act like a victim.

I’m sorry I made this aspect sound so bad (lol) but the fire still burns in me when I talk about them. Both have Scorpio Venus. 😩

posted July 05, 2021 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
In my opinion, the road to Pluto is the most demanding of all.

If you choose to walk it, you will find along your way the Plutonian self-control, the Plutonian patience, the Plutonian acceptance and the Plutonian surrender to Love.

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posted July 05, 2021 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
I’ve been Pluto, or still am. I “let go” constantly because I have to on principle, to survive.

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Amen

posted July 06, 2021 05:14 AM            

7th House is our expectations.

With any 7th House planet, it’s energy we give to the world, meeting the world for, coloring our perception of others. Many aren’t actually aware of how their 7H planets fundamentally function: this planet is explicitly positioned to project itself onto reality, to be shared. When a native reclaims the activity (becomes conscious), more power to them.

In the simplest terms, I place my faith into relationships. Other people tend to give my life a spiritual meaning. What type of person this planet attracts, for the sheer sake of experiencing it, depends on the native’s personal capacity and frequency.

A person’s Faith (their imagination or beliefs) is their character imo

Easy example, with the moon man I mentioned above, he has Chiron in his 7th House: can either find partners that are shitfull of relentless, passive misery to deal with, or technically, he could also date a wise healer? Take a wild guess which type of woman he has a compulsion to choose, when faced with the option.

Many would rather (unconsciously) choose an Other who will be, or seems to have, the “quality” of this planet, for our own personal use (in attempt to become whole - 7H), than to address themself in the same mirror beforehand—that we ARE what we seek.

Neptune in 7th is romantic, idealistic, faithful, forgiving, intuitive, imaginative. Sure, there are definitely consequences to every planet, but it all depends on the native’s maturity: behaves and receives in return.

posted July 06, 2021 09:04 AM            

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/chiron-in-7th-house-astrology-meaning

posted July 06, 2021 09:35 AM            

asteroid Chariklo (Chiron’s wife) is conjunct my Ascendent. My Chiron is in my third house, his in Gemini sign.

Besides the transit of Pluto to his natal Venus, he also has the transit NN conjunct his natal Chiron. Hope this eventually serves him for the better.

Btw, I wanted to add, considering the guy is going through the transit Pluto at the same time of reconnecting with me, I think in synastry between these two figures, ultimately it’s the inner planet’s lesson to learn, for better or worse, as Hikaru’s side portrayed. An outer planet is collective knowledge.

I’m not like the guys she’s dealt with, and yet, I’m the Pluto in my connection. Perhaps because I’m female. If anything, my moon friend has “gaslight” me plenty—he has a naturally manipulative, secretive character, no judgement there, my 8H moon allows me to see straight through whatever’s hidden anyhow so all is fairly merry, intrigues me, though tolling. Since I’m perceptive yet harbor no deep-seated-need to actually struggle, I just calmly pointed it out as it happened (“This was gaslighting.” “That’s a loaded question.” “Here’s an infographic about trauma-bonding.” etc), and move forward.

People can get caught up in a struggle for personal power with Pluto–it really doesn’t have to turn against them (though it often seems to). But then again, this depends on the soul’s accountability, and underlying, unconscious reason for calling in these experiences—meeting these folk at the time we do.

I’ll eventually be going through a transit Pluto conjunct to my natal Moon, but this aspect doesn’t exact until 2023. Wonder if I’ll still be thinking of him by then.

Whereas his transit to “Venus” is happening now: first exact in January, when we met up after years apart (he flew to another country to see me - an extreme booty call lmao), and again this August, when it will make it’s second retrograde conjunction. Though we’re pretty much no contact these days.

Of course I’m curious if I’ll ever hear from him again - it’s been going on long enough, though unsure that I necessarily want-to considering all the previous let-gos and immature behavior.

posted July 06, 2021 07:07 PM            

When I realized that I am thinking "well yes...in several hours pluto will have no choice but to let go of the moon. But in 48 hours they will reunite when the moon enters Taurus.

This reminds me of a twin flame relationship. The chaser (pluto) eventually has to surrender to the natural order of things. He is never going to keep up with her. She is the fastest celestial body there is & he is the slowest.

But even though she tries to run away from him, she can never truly escape him.

Pluto is the chaser that has stopped chasing. He knows she will be back, she always comes back. She can run around the zodiac wheel 12 times a year while pluto barely moves an inch. He is stability in her fast pace uncertain world. While all the other planets are rarely in the same spot as she left them a month prior. Neptune is an illusion, she cannot trust that. And don't get me started on uranus..ain't nobody wanna be in a relationship with that ***hole. & yes I intended the hell outta that pun.

But pluto she can trust but allowing herself to be vulnerable is easier than it sound.

While there is a blockage when squaring, in 48 hours the blockage is gone and they enjoy the harmonious easy flowing energy & can understand the previous square from a whole new perspective. Releasing fears. In another 92 hours they will reunite feeling like they are on two separate pages when in reality they are much more in tune with each other than they realize. They are just acting it out in mirroring ways.

Then we get the trine again, square, sextile.

The sextile I think as a trine but with some expectations on part of the moon. She recalls the trine following both the aries square & cancer opposition. Now she is expecting another trine experience which she is slightly bummed out that their connection wasn't as potent as she previously experienced, triggering a fear that pluto is losing interest in her & starts chasing him.

The conjunction is that all consuming energy & she wants nothing more than to merge with him. He reflects it much differently than she does. Triggering another running episode. Again fearing her own emotions.

The following sextile she feels much more relieved. & even though the flow is no more or less potent than the previous one. Pluto is the one initiating contact. Once again easing he fears of the previous meeting.

Annnnnd the cycle continues..only consciousness changes.

So no..I don't believe either the moon nor pluto can ever truly let go of one another. It is a relationship that shapes you to your core. It will stay with you until your last dying breath and beyond.

Even those of us who are in or end up in another loving relationship with another beautiful soul...a part of us will always be longing for that pluto/moon connection.

I believe the square may be easier to heal and move on from than the conjunction or even opposition. Only because it is more aggressive from the beginning & may be a lesson in self worth for more than likely the pluto person. IMO anyways.

Same with the sextile and trine because they aren't as potent...although there is really no way to measure that. What may be a very intense aspect for one person may not have had the same effect on someone else in a relationship with the same aspect. All we can truly understand is right now. Calculus would be lost on someone who is still learning their multiplication tables. That student could be having a significantly more difficult time with their equations than the calculus student is with theirs. But he too had to learn how to multiply first.

posted July 07, 2021 05:08 AM            

I guess if I’m honest I don’t want to be without the Pluto person.

posted July 07, 2021 05:49 AM            

Over the course of knowing him, for the most part, I’ve had to reject him; either because I was in a longterm relationship, or then afterwards, reject him because he was in his own relationship and I don’t want to be a third party. He kept trying to connect with me - I was constantly put into this position of having to do the moral thing, whether because of my own ex, or even, looking out for his! I would have to flat out deny him by putting it down to these terms: “between you and your girlfriend, I will always choose her. I love women too much. I’ve been cheated on before, and I never want another woman to feel or go through what I did.”

He flew out to me a month after his split with his partner, so although I saw him for a few days, I still had to eventually reject him because he is not yet divorced and not emotionally available.

I called him up before he visited to flat-out ask (because feelings run deep), “Am I a rebound?” His answer was, “Well, I’ve known you longer [than her].”

posted July 07, 2021 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
There are no lessons that have to be learnt, there is no manipulation, there are no dark power struggles when dealing with Pluto. There is this road, this hard-working road that leads to who you really are. Once you have seen it, you never go back. You only want to be closer to the light. Oh, Pluto can be very bright...

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posted July 07, 2021 02:08 PM            

Hi sweetie with your lovely pink heart...