posted August 05, 2021 07:30 PM            

Something that I've been mulling over the past few days: the best, most harmonized, explosive physical chemistry I've had with people are when our Mars are in positive aspect to each other.

Not Mars/Venus, but Mars/Mars.

Thoughts?

I have no idea WHY, but I tend to fall into relationships with people whose Mars are square my Mars. Usually the intimacy/sex left a lot to be desired.

Though in one relationship our Mars were sextile (and we had a Mars/Pluto DW both ways...) and yeah the sex was just mindblowing. I actually always thought it was just the Mars/Pluto that was responsible for that.

But now I'm with someone and we have an exact Mars/Mars trine (with a Venus sq Mars aspect both ways) and once again, the intimacy is just perfection and we are on exactly the same page physically.

In my first relationship, we had a Venus trine Mars double whammy, but our Mars were square each other and the intimacy was just not good/synchronized at all.

posted August 06, 2021 11:24 AM            

So Mars to Mars indicates how those two sides interact.

But some or many people have attraction based on other and deeper things besides bodily hormone reactions. We get attracted to people based on other things as well, such as wounds, our deeper Soul nature, our Spirit nature, etc.

And so Mars to Mars certainly can't cover it all. And those other levels can help to stimulate that Mars, "lets get procreating" part of us.

The reason why we tend to make a fuss over Venus-Mars connections in synastry is because of their innate opposite but complementary nature, which is indicated in multiple ways, such as ruling two opposite Sign pairs, as well as the classic "male" and "female" type duality, as Mars being the pursuing, seeking to dominate, and "I desire and take" energy, and Venus being the attracting, receptive, giving, etc balancing factor. I.e. the beauty and the beast trope/archetype that is somewhat built into bodies based on gender (but the nature of the Soul can change these). Most relationships are based on some combo of give and take. And with Venus and Mars in particular, just like with Yin and Yang, Venus never just gives and Mars never just takes, but there is a feedback loop that happens.

posted August 07, 2021 10:25 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Mars trine Mars is ok but i prefer Mars/Pluto. I’m a Gemini Mars and I like Mars in Libra and Cancer Mars. I know this is weird because Gemini Mars and Cancer Mars aren’t compatible. But I think it’s because I have Moon trine Mars in my chart.

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posted August 07, 2021 10:35 AM            

With my first bf we have Venus trine Mars DW and Mars in semi-sextile signs. Sex was meh. 🤨

With my 2nd bf we have Mars opp Mars and Mars quincunx Pluto, even though Venus also square Mars, sex was great.

With my current guy, we’ve Mars trine Mars + Pluto-Mars DW and it was da best. The intimacy and connection were unparalleled.

With the last 2 guys we also have Sun-Mars DW and that adds to the attraction.

posted August 07, 2021 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
Im mars in cancer and my gf is mars in gemini and our sex is really good i realized i love gemini mars and venus and i could not understand why im so attracted to them and them to me and i finally found it! I realized that mars in cancer is parallel gemini planets! All the gem mars and venus i like usually have that gem planet parallel my mars in cancer so its like a conjunction just on a lesser level but its definitely felt

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posted August 09, 2021 04:56 PM            

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Fascinating insights, as always, coming from you.

I wonder if I prefer Mars-Mars contacts since my Venus is in Aries, so there’s a Martian bent to what I desire/present as? I feel like my Venus does a very poor job at being receptive/charitable/giving (of course this isn’t true for all Aries placements, I’m just speaking on my nature).

posted August 09, 2021 05:00 PM            

Oh yeah I prefer Mars-Pluto anyday, trust me :P I just didn’t bring it up because that’s not what this topic is about and there are plenty of other Mars-Pluto threads on the first page of Interpersonal at the moment

posted August 09, 2021 05:04 PM            

OH LORD I completely relate to what you said. Damn we’ve had really similar synastry experiences based on the data you shared!

I would LOVE to experience Mars opp Mars, I’ve heard great things about Mars in Virgo peeps. My only concern is that their Mars would then fall into my 12th house and 12th house synastry just makes me itchy. It would have to be in like the last 5 degrees of Virgo so that Mars could be in my 1st house, then I think it would be super sexy…

See, you’re another person that didn’t have good sex with a Mars-Venus DW, that’s so wild to me. It was a wonderful relationship, don’t get me wrong, there was nothing but peace and harmony, but the sex….? Man it just was not good!

Ugh you have that Mars-Pluto DW with the Mars trine. I’m so jealous. I know that must be hot as hell.

posted August 09, 2021 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Galactic,

I wonder if I prefer Mars-Mars contacts since my Venus is in Aries, so there’s a Martian bent to what I desire/present as? I feel like my Venus does a very poor job at being receptive/charitable/giving (of course this isn’t true for all Aries placements, I’m just speaking on my nature).

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Quite possibly. My partner has Aries Moon and Aqua Venus, and I'm definitely more the giver sexually and emotionally in our relationship. And I'm not even joking, but in the earlier days, I was like a human battery for her. When she was in college, she was also working two jobs, and sometimes partying. She would constantly want to have sex with me (often past the point of my interest), and though I was less busy, expending less energy than her, and sleeping more, I was tired a lot, and she had plenty of energy somehow. It was like she was literally absorbing it from me.

One time, also in these college days, we did shrooms together, and approached it in a more spiritual and guidance way, where we asked for help and guidance, and meditated as it took effect. Anyways, I was having a great ole time, but she started to get a massive headache, which completely was ruining it for her. I felt for her, and decided to put my hands on her head and intended the headache go away.

Well, it did, but then I got it, and it was gawd awful. For the next couple hours I laid in a fetal position on the bed, rocking myself and having visions of suppressed/forgotten dreams remembrances of the red skies and a narrow path surrounded by aggressive and venomous snakes.

Anyways, the energetic connection clearly also went the other way, if I consciously directed it, but even then, though I was absorbing in this case, I was still giving in the deeper sense.

posted August 10, 2021 12:10 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:

Hikaru,

OH LORD I completely relate to what you said. Damn we’ve had really similar synastry experiences based on the data you shared!

I would LOVE to experience Mars opp Mars, I’ve heard great things about Mars in Virgo peeps. My only concern is that their Mars would then fall into my 12th house and 12th house synastry just makes me itchy. It would have to be in like the last 5 degrees of Virgo so that Mars could be in my 1st house, then I think it would be super sexy…

See, you’re another person that didn’t have good sex with a Mars-Venus DW, that’s so wild to me. It was a wonderful relationship, don’t get me wrong, there was nothing but peace and harmony, but the sex….? Man it just was not good!

Ugh you have that Mars-Pluto DW with the Mars trine. I’m so jealous. I know that must be hot as hell.

Yes I agree with your theory about Mars-Mars. I definitely think it’s symbolic of very compatible sexual styles and the genre of sensuality you prefer.

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Yes, but I think we also have to look deeper than just the Signs involved. For example, while I have Mars in Virgo, my Mars is conjunct Jupiter the ruler of my 5th and 8th Houses, closely trine Sun ruler of my Asc/chart, and widely square Neptune ruler of my 8th and placed in my 5th.

In other words, this is a highly modified Virgo Mars, that barely resembles Virgo Mars. Jupiter energy is very different than Virgo energy in many/most ways, except that both are adaptable/flexible and communicative type energies.

So my Virgo Mars may be opposite say a person's Pisces Mars, but there may be more innate harmony than appears on the surface. Say the Mars in Pisces person has their Mars conjunct Mercury, that also would tend to shift things beyond the typical opposite Sign dynamic.

There are ever deeper layers to look at. And it can and will apply to trines, sextiles, squares, conjunctions, etc as well.

And I wouldn't knock a 12th House sexual connection. It could be very, very intense as far as deeper merging goes. If you can telepathically connect and meld with a person, while also having physical sex, that can be extremely, extremely intense and amplify it all.

Anyways, thinking back, while I didn't have sex with either of them, there have been two women that I was particularly very intensely sexually attracted to. One I had a double Sun Mars conjunction with. Her Moon is in Aquarius in my 7th, opposed my Asc and same sign as my Venus. Moon is actually a somewhat sexual planet. While Mars is more like a male type sexuality, Moon is more like a female type sexuality. It's a bit more subtle and emotionally oriented. But it's still quite procreative oriented. Where Mars corresponds to the 1st, red center, Moon corresponds to the 2nd center (which for most is most often a coral pink type vibration).

Moon more often confuses sexual attraction and intimacy for "love" than does Mars, which can easily be purely sexual and NSA.

I don't know what her Asc is, but I suspect it is likely Aquarius. Opposite Asc's can also indicate powerful bodily attraction, which is often not talked about.

Anyways, I was very, very attracted to her in a very hormonal, lustful way. Fortunately or unfortunately, she was more interested in my partner than me. Part of that is because she was usually in a relationship with a man, but was allowed to have fun on the side with women (but not men). Boy did she try to seduce my partner. It almost got to a comical degree at one point.

The other person, I had a double Venus Mars oppositon. But not just any Venus Mars opposition. In her chart, Mars rules her Sun, 8th, and co-rules her Moon, and was same degree as my Asc and opposite my Venus which is in my 7th, and rules my Moon and MC. More over, my Moon was the opposite Sign of her Sun.

Then, in her chart, Venus rules her chart ruler Sign placement (Taurus), rules her South Node (Taurus), was conjunct her 5th House ruler, and her Sun is strongly cusping Taurus (3 degrees away), and is in her 7th House. But in my chart, her Venus fell in my 8th. In my chart, Mars rules my IC, and was conjunct her Asc.

With her, it was more of an "all level" super intense attraction, whereas with the former person, it felt/seemed more purely sexual and lust oriented in nature.

In hindsight, I'm grateful I didn't have sex with either of them, though with the first person, I think I could have gotten over her much easier, if we had, than if I had also with the 2nd person.

With the 2nd person, not only did I want to pleasure her until she couldn't take it anymore, but I also wanted to meld my mind, heart, Soul, and Spirit with her simultaneously. Never felt anything that intense before or since.

posted August 10, 2021 01:06 AM            

Then, her Virgo Moon is conjunct my Virgo Jupiter Mars conjunction.

Her Venus is in my 5th and closely square my Mars of that conjunction. My Venus is almost exactly trine her Mars. My Sun is in her 7th House.

I have had twinges of attraction to her more sexually, but you'd might think that it would be very strong and nearly overwhelming, and yet it really isn't. I have no idea what she does or doesn't feel towards me in that way. She may have felt some twinges here and there as well, but as she is close to my partner and considers her one of her closest friends, she may really not want to entertain any of that because of that friendship with my partner that she values so much. I know that past life wise, we did have a sexual connection previously, but it was somewhat impersonal at the time (it was state sponsored pairing/mating to produce more fully human bodies...long account, but she was a priestess and I a priest and we had been paired, but then again, many of us at the time had had many partners for that former reason).

Funny enough though, her twin soul and off and on again partner, is also a Cap Sun and Aqua Venus like me, and also with highlighted Virgo (in his case, Virgo Asc, while I have Virgo N. Node, Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn).

posted August 10, 2021 01:33 AM            

It is also just out of range of being conjunct my Aqua Venus at 21 degrees.

But it is closely conjunct my Pisces South Node, and in my 7th House.

I would say that she was a bit more attracted to me than I was to her initially. Sex has varied, but generally good to intense. Though she is a fairly Yang attuned and kind of dominant type personality in a lot of ways, oddly, sexually, she gets rather passive and receptive for the most part. And then I switch more too. I tend to be kind of Yin and passive normally, but during sex, it's like the Leo Rising part of me, takes over more, and I become more directive and Yang.

Most Pisces in other people's charts, tends to fall into my 8th House though. Allegedly, when one person captures the other person's Mars in their 8th, the Mars person can be very intensely and magnetically sexually attracted to the 8th House person (according to one Synastry book I have*), but I'm not sure on that, since I don't remember romantic connections where the person's Mars was in Pisces and in my 8th.

But I certainly have known some Aqua Ascs where my Mars falls into their 8th and I was indeed quite attracted to them (helped by my Aqua Venus and Leo Asc). Actually, my Mars Jupiter conjunction, and Saturn do all fall in my partner's 8th though she has Cap Asc.

* I'll write up the Mars in 8th interpretation later on in another reply.

posted August 10, 2021 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Hikaru,

OH LORD I completely relate to what you said. Damn we’ve had really similar synastry experiences based on the data you shared!

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Ya, it’s such a coincidence that we have such similar experiences. 🙂

The Virgo Mars falls in my 4H and it’s exactly opposite my Mars. After being disappointed by that Venus-Mars guy, this Virgo Mars was a breath of fresh air. We had good rhythm sexually and he was giving though with the trine we are better matched in terms of temperament and energy levels, even the things we choose to do on any particular day are in sync. And yes Pluto-Mars makes it hot! With the opposition we needed some adjustments.

posted August 10, 2021 02:58 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
A note about Mars Pluto. I don't understand the hype on this one.

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Same can be said of my experience with Venus-Mars and Sun-Moon aspects. Lol

There’s a friend who was flirty with me. We shared a kiss once but I never felt attracted enough to progress the relationship, partly because I couldn’t quite grasp if he was really interested or just flirting. Despite my Gemini Venus’ notorious reputation of being a flirt, I actually prefer a man who’s focused, clear and straightforward with his intention. In Synastry His Moon conjunct my Sun and his Venus widely conjunct my Mars.

Right now there’s also another guy friend with his Sun conjunct my Moon and I feel absolutely no attraction towards him, not to mention feeling of ‘soulmate’ which is such a common interpretation of this aspect.

My point is UNLESS there is attraction in the first place, planetary aspects alone will do nothing.

posted August 10, 2021 03:23 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
There is some basis in reason and logic, since Mars symbolically represents and correlates to our bodily animal sexual nature i.e. the hormonal lust part of us that gets triggered especially by the "right" genetics or factors of another body.

So Mars to Mars indicates how those two sides interact.

But some or many people have attraction based on other and deeper things besides bodily hormone reactions. We get attracted to people based on other things as well, such as wounds, our deeper Soul nature, our Spirit nature, etc.

And so Mars to Mars certainly can't cover it all. And those other levels can help to stimulate that Mars, "lets get procreating" part of us.

The reason why we tend to make a fuss over Venus-Mars connections in synastry is because of their innate opposite but complementary nature, which is indicated in multiple ways, such as ruling two opposite Sign pairs, as well as the classic "male" and "female" type duality, as Mars being the pursuing, seeking to dominate, and "I desire and take" energy, and Venus being the attracting, receptive, giving, etc balancing factor. I.e. the beauty and the beast trope/archetype that is somewhat built into bodies based on gender (but the nature of the Soul can change these). Most relationships are based on some combo of give and take. And with Venus and Mars in particular, just like with Yin and Yang, Venus never just gives and Mars never just takes, but there is a feedback loop that happens.

And the hope is eventual balance and merging. Most ideally within oneself, but this process can be unconsciously catalyzed by others/outside connections and relationships.

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posted August 10, 2021 10:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Same can be said of my experience with Venus-Mars and Sun-Moon aspects. Lol

My point is UNLESS there is attraction in the first place, planetary aspects alone will do nothing.

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Well that is what the synastry is partly for, to tell us what kind and level of attraction is probable. But we first have to look at the individual's charts in question and see what kind of energy, etc they are most attracted to, etc and why.

It's not just as simple as comparing this single planet/point to that single planet/point. For a very simple example, someone very attuned to Pluto and/or Scorpio is going to really like and be drawn to Plutonian, Scorpio, and/or 8th House type of connections, and conversely the opposite energy as well (Venus and/or Taurus).

I'm fairly attuned to Venus, especially in relation to women and close relationships (Libra Moon, Venus in 7th House in wide opposition to my Asc, and Taurus MC), and so Venus aspects "really do it" for me, especially when it involves Venus's opposite energy, Mars.

Then, my 5th and 8th House ruler, Jupiter, is conjunct Mars, indicating that I'm also directly attracted to that Mars energy romantically and sexually, besides the opposites attract kind of thing. But then again, I'm also attracted to Neptunian energy romantically and sexually, since Neptune rules my 8th and is in my 5th, and makes an extremely close sextile to the rather sensitive/highlighted Venus.

We need to look deeper and more holistically at our own charts before better understanding the synastry and connections with others.

posted August 10, 2021 10:10 AM            

That's not to say that incompatible Mars signs can't enjoy sex and intimacy, though. I had pretty great sex with an Aquarius Mars, while mine is in Cancer, if we're looking just at physical pleasure alone...

posted August 10, 2021 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:

Wow, not fighting with you can give me so much knowledge

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Wait, What!?

Am I being gaslit and the above is sarcasm?

But more seriously, I really can't tell if you're being sincere or sarcastic in the above?

posted August 10, 2021 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by oceansofstars:
That makes a lot of sense, even if both parties don't actually have Mars in aspect. Just having a compatible Mars sign in general seems more fortunate for a better mutual understanding of how action is taken, sexually or otherwise.

That's not to say that incompatible Mars signs can't enjoy sex and intimacy, though. I had pretty great sex with an Aquarius Mars, while mine is in Cancer, if we're looking just at physical pleasure alone...

But for me, sex isn't JUST physical pleasure. The overall vibe and lack of emotional intimacy that paved our sexual encounters was jarring. It was so ... task-oriented for him, there wasn't enough passion even though he had a good technique and learned how my body worked. It felt like a puzzle he was deconstructing and putting back together rather than anything deeper, and Mars in Water needs depth.

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