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Topic: Significant Relationship/Marriage Aspects
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 09, 2021 06:07 PM
Can someone here please tell me what to look at in order to determine if there is a possible love/long term relationship or marriage on the horizon?Someone recently mentioned Solar Arc Directions. Do I only look at rulers of 7H & 10H and then see if they make aspects to to angles (ASC, DCS, MC, IC) or what exactly do I need to check? Also, is Solar Arc Venus important? If so, what aspects do I check for? Thank you to all! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 161467 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 10, 2021 02:57 PM
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mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 736 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted December 11, 2021 03:13 AM
Usually, there are more than one transit that triggers this, but also has to be confirmed in the solar return.Jupiter/saturn/pluto in transit to the ruler of the 7th house or the 7th house, often with the conjunction, but the opposition could be too. Also the north node through the 7th house, with one transit of the examples I gave above. Jupiter conjunction Venus, Saturn/ pluto trine/sextile Venus at the same time as one of the above. Venus transiting one of the houses that Venus rules at the same time as one of the first Solar return activity in the 7th house- venus, sun, Jupiter, Libra ASC, Libra Moon. Just one, its not enough to be a real event. It has to be in transits, for the opportunity to exist, if the natal chart supports it, solar return, and i use profections too to see what house and planets in the natal chart are active. But thats just what I look at. Also, there are other transits that could mitigate a potential good transit like Jupiter conjunct the 7th house ruler with Saturn transiting the 7th house. Also squares to Venus from Saturn-Pluto. Solar Arc or progressed Venus/Jupiter or 7th house ruler conjunct or opposition to the DC, 7th house ruler, ASC, or Venus in the natal could trigger this, but I haven't looked too much into this. Also, Uranus and Neptune could be involed even if they aren't the 7th house rulers. Conjunction/squares to personal planets or transiting the 7th house or Venus in easy aspects or conjunctions. I mentioned the square because I had it twice in these two transits of Jupiter. First was Uranus square Mars and the second was Neptune square Mars. Probably a push to do something else. 🤷🏼♀️
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LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 3972 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted December 11, 2021 06:23 AM
When I met my ex:Transit jupiter exact Conjunct my moon and trine my Venus exact too Transit Saturn in my 7th house conjunct my 7th ruler Transit Venus/mars conjunct my moon
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LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 3972 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted December 11, 2021 06:39 AM
Also just looked again and seen that Transit Venus/mars/Jupiter was in my 5th house, all were conjunct my moon and trine my Venus and trine my 5th ruler Transit NN conjunct my 7th ruler as well Transit Pluto EXACT conjunct my 5th house ruler And like I mentioned before, transit Saturn in my 7th conjunct my 7th ruler Transit Sun exact conjunct my DSC I was half in love with him the first night I met him lol I fell so hard in love I should have died lol like it shouldn’t even have been allowed, I was.not.ok. I didn’t even know it was humanly possible. I use to just cry being so overwhelmed with the sincerity of my emotion, like my chest would explode with warm gooey mush when I’d tell him I loved him. I remember thinking, no human has ever loved another human this much. It’s just not possible. I would have genuinely walked thru fire for him. I didn’t need to sleep or eat, like literally, I was high/living off love lol I lost like 20 pounds in less than 3 months lol I ended up getting underweight, I was already skinny! It was a crazy experience. I went crazy lol it’s true what they say about love making you crazy 🙃🙃. Looking bad I’m like damn, those were some crazy/heavy transits lol no wonder… IT WASN’T MY FAULT 🤷♀️🤣 IP: Logged |
AlmaRegulus Knowflake Posts: 671 From: Registered: Apr 2021
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posted December 11, 2021 08:25 AM
Honestly transits alone are not enough, neither are solar returns...The key stuff is in progressions and solar arc directions, usually involving angles. Transits can add and accentuate, but they never have a major role, more like a background. I just had transit Pluto R1 conjunct Venus R7 in trine to Dsc, no effect whatsoever. Well there was some emotional turmoil in a non-existing relationship... IP: Logged |
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 11, 2021 10:05 AM
My SA Venus is conjunct Mars/AC. Transit Aqua Saturn trine Venus exact 12/18/21, conj DC exact 2/3/22. Transit Aqua Jupiter in 7H until 12/29/21, T. Pisces Jupiter conj 7H Juno exact 2/1/22. Saturn co-ruler of 7H opp Saturn exact 2/3/22. Your thoughts? IP: Logged |
AlmaRegulus Knowflake Posts: 671 From: Registered: Apr 2021
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posted December 11, 2021 12:27 PM
Comdoc, is SA Venus conjunction to Asc exact? In SA directions 1 degree is roughly 1 year.IP: Logged |
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 11, 2021 01:40 PM
No, it's on Mars/AC midpoint. Will be exactly conjunct AC in about 2 more years. *sync* That's when I'm due to graduate university. quote: Originally posted by AlmaRegulus: Comdoc, is SA Venus conjunction to Asc exact? In SA directions 1 degree is roughly 1 year.
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 12, 2021 01:06 AM
Thank you for all of your input guys. I looked at transits and there is absolutely nothing that popped up....and same with Progressions and Solar Arc. I had a couple of SA aspects back in 2020 but obviously due to corona, there was no way to socialize and so that's gone. This is so discouraging The only aspects that I see are way out in 2023: Progressed Sun conjunct my natal Venus SA Sun conj natal Venus SA Sun square natal Jupiter SA Pluto conjunct my ASC. That is it Are these significant? Should I be worried about SA Pluto conjunct ASC?? IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 604 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted December 12, 2021 07:57 AM
Hi CuriousV, I would never worry about any transit or placement. They usually indicate the type of energy that can help you with personal growth. SA Pluto conjunct ASC could indicate a big transformation in the way you present yourself.Jupiter often indicates optimism and being open for new experiences. This planet was active in both the early stage and the final stage of my relationship with my now ex husband. Although I wouldn’t worry too much if you don’t have any big transits or solar return indicators. You will meet someone when you’re supposed to. Live your best life anyway. If my failed marriage taught me anything, it is that you shouldn’t live your life for someone else. IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: Aug 2017
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posted December 12, 2021 03:33 PM
Natal Asc/Dec double-whammy conjunctions plus one pair of Asc/Dec rulers being conjunct in Synastry are the biggest factors to look for when looking to start any potential romantic relationship.IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 12, 2021 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Hi CuriousV, I would never worry about any transit or placement. They usually indicate the type of energy that can help you with personal growth. SA Pluto conjunct ASC could indicate a big transformation in the way you present yourself.Jupiter often indicates optimism and being open for new experiences. This planet was active in both the early stage and the final stage of my relationship with my now ex husband. Although I wouldn’t worry too much if you don’t have any big transits or solar return indicators. You will meet someone when you’re supposed to. Live your best life anyway. If my failed marriage taught me anything, it is that you shouldn’t live your life for someone else.
Yes, of course I agree with you that you shouldn't live for someone else. I am not saying I am sitting waiting for someone to appear in my life, I am going about my life as usual, doing me I guess... But I haven't had a relationship or anything romantic since spring of 2018 and I feel like my life has completely stalled in that department. Plus considering that I am in my 40s, I'd like to meet a partner and get married or at least have a long term partnership (I was married before so it's not like I am desperate for that). It's just at this point it feels like I am very unlucky in this department and I guess I am just looking for some positive signs/encouragement, hence me looking at my chart and relationship indicators. But I have no idea what I am looking for...do you know of anyone who does this professionally? Anyone in this forum maybe who can look at my chart?? Thanks!
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 12, 2021 07:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by CardinalT-Square: Natal Asc/Dec double-whammy conjunctions plus one pair of Asc/Dec rulers being conjunct in Synastry are the biggest factors to look for when looking to start any potential romantic relationship.
Thank you for your input. I don't have anyone in my life right now so I can't look at synastry. I was told that only Solar Arc Directions would be the most accurate prognostic tool when it comes to determining possibility of marriage or long term relationship. Do you know if it's only 7th & 10th House rulers and aspects they make to Venus that are important to look at or are there any other major aspects? I was told to look at: 7H & 10H ruler 7H & 10H, MC & DCS SA Venus aspect to 7H and MC The thing is, Mercury rules both my 7H & my 10H and there are zero aspects in the next 7-8 years to anything mentioned above IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: Aug 2017
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posted December 13, 2021 02:37 AM
As far as I know no. Everyone closest to me that has formed anything romantic including Marriage has had the combinations I stated above. I've never heard anything about Solar Arcs being an indicator at all whatsoever, but that's just been my experiences. Have you had your Natal Chart Recifiyed? You can't just go off of your Birth Certificate, especially if you were orphaned/adopted. Kannon is far more knowledgeable about Rectification than I. I had him do my Chart and it turned out I was reincarnated 40min earlier than my stated ToB.IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 736 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted December 13, 2021 01:01 PM
Please check the state of your 7th house and Venus in the natal chart - sign, house for Venus, ruler, aspects and the planets that are there. After, check what happened in transits, solar return, progressions and solar arc the last time when it happened. Relationships are very subjective and you have to see what it means a relationship to you. After, check when it will happen again. Usually is every 12 years (due to Jupiter or profections).The periods will not be the same, but the same theme will repeat. IP: Logged |
AlmaRegulus Knowflake Posts: 671 From: Registered: Apr 2021
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posted December 13, 2021 04:43 PM
Many aspects involving angle rulers and angles, as well as Venus as symbolic 7th house ruler, can lead to marriage. Or not. For me many of them turned into other significant events, so that really depends on a chart. Minor aspects work too, so it's not that easy to spot them out without having a certain time interval in mind. And solar arc angles are important too.IP: Logged |
AlmaRegulus Knowflake Posts: 671 From: Registered: Apr 2021
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posted December 13, 2021 05:12 PM
I am now kind of having this period but no wedding planned but some of these aspects will be exact in a year or two(PLEASE DON'T QUOTE): SA Sun R10 sextile Venus R7 SA Sun R10 sextile Dsc, trine Asc SA Neptune R4 conjunct Sun R10 SA Venus R7 conjunct IC My understanding is that an interplay between the rulers of 7th, 1st, 10th and 4th and angles is most important. I had at one point SA Venus (7th ruler!!) conjunct Sun R10 and didn't even have a boyfriend (was 16). There were significant events related to university. Then I had SA Venus on my South Node trine to Moon, Jupiter and Saturn. Again, events related to studies. I did get my first "sort of a relationship" and first long-term trip, but SA Venus was actually 2-3* separated from the Sun and 2* approaching South Node - not exactly in a midpoint, but making a loose aspect with both of them. Then my SA Venus was square Asc-Dsc - again, no relationship, I was recovering from the one which occurred at 2* prior to exact aspect. But there were events related to immigration. Then SA Venus was conjunct Mars R5 & Mercury R8 - not even a boyfriend! But something related to studies and long-distance move, but again it happened 1-2* after exact aspects. SA Venus R7 square Pluto R1 - nothing, no boyfriend, just an obsession, dreading another moving across countries. SA Moon, Jupiter & Saturn on Asc - no boyfriend, moving countries Progressed Venus on IC square to Uranus - no boyfriend, moving countries Progressed New Moon - no boyfriend, no events really I know it sounds pathetic! And when did I actually get a boyfriend? When progressed (not SA) Moon was on progressed Mars R5 and progressed Amor; progressed Vesta exactly conjunct natal MC; progressed Dsc inconjunct natal Venus R7. Also, SA MC was on Moon and Jupiter but this I relate more to other events. Well, SA Sun was already within 1,5* approaching trine to Asc and sextile to Dsc, now it's within 0,30* approaching, but I don't believe I would get married with the guy I'm dating and certainly not fast enough for the exact aspect. Although potentially it could signify marriage, since Sun R10 is making aspects to Asc & Dsc and in one more year to Venus R7. So you see, it's not that straightforward... so it would be more productive to get involved in some activities than obsessing with charts. IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 14, 2021 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by CardinalT-Square: As far as I know no. Everyone closest to me that has formed anything romantic including Marriage has had the combinations I stated above. I've never heard anything about Solar Arcs being an indicator at all whatsoever, but that's just been my experiences. Have you had your Natal Chart Recifiyed? You can't just go off of your Birth Certificate, especially if you were orphaned/adopted. Kannon is far more knowledgeable about Rectification than I. I had him do my Chart and it turned out I was reincarnated 40min earlier than my stated ToB.
Who is Kannon? And I am 95% sure that my TOB is correct because when I looked at Solar Arcs back at the time when I got married, there were many major indicators around that time. The reason I say 95% is because my TOB is exactly 1 PM, kinda hard to believe that it was exactly on the dot but could've been...worst case scenario it's +/- 10-15 minutes. IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 14, 2021 10:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: Please check the state of your 7th house and Venus in the natal chart - sign, house for Venus, ruler, aspects and the planets that are there. After, check what happened in transits, solar return, progressions and solar arc the last time when it happened. Relationships are very subjective and you have to see what it means a relationship to you. After, check when it will happen again. Usually is every 12 years (due to Jupiter or profections).The periods will not be the same, but the same theme will repeat.
My 7th H is empty and there are no SA aspects there Neither are there any SA aspects to my 7th H ruler or Jupiter. My natal Venus is in Scorpio and it's sitting in the 11th house. I know that Scorpio is ruled by Mars and Pluto. So do I also need to check for Solar Arc aspects to Mars and Pluto? Only conjunctions, squares or oppositions?
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 14, 2021 10:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmaRegulus: I am now kind of having this period but no wedding planned but some of these aspects will be exact in a year or two
Hi Alma, thank you for your input. What are all those R's that you mentioned? I am kinda new to astrology... And when you say that most important are interplays between the rulers of 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th houses, do you mean Solar Arc aspects to angles only or to certain planets?
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CardinalT-Square Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: Aug 2017
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posted December 15, 2021 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by CuriousV: Who is Kannon?And I am 95% sure that my TOB is correct because when I looked at Solar Arcs back at the time when I got married, there were many major indicators around that time. The reason I say 95% is because my TOB is exactly 1 PM, kinda hard to believe that it was exactly on the dot but could've been...worst case scenario it's +/- 10-15 minutes.
You can start a new thread in the "Astrology 2.0" section to get his attention as he is one of the admins. 1PM definitely doesn't sound accurate, but anything is possible. Have you looked at transits and progressions of days that a major event happened to you? Check days that you started a new job, and/or a new relationship, and/or started a new business...etc. Also check Natal Charts of other people closest to you, and/or seen on a daily basis. Look for consistent patterns in as many of them as possible. For example: I attract a lot of women with Mars in Libra into my life because I have Natal Mars in my 7th House, and Mars/Saturn aspects because my Mars is in Capricorn. That last bit can be helpful if you have any planets/luminaries on the cusp/29°-0° point in two signs. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 604 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted December 15, 2021 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by CuriousV: …It's just at this point it feels like I am very unlucky in this department and I guess I am just looking for some positive signs/encouragement, hence me looking at my chart and relationship indicators. But I have no idea what I am looking for...do you know of anyone who does this professionally? Anyone in this forum maybe who can look at my chart?? Thanks!
Hi CuriousV, I can understand that when you feel ready for a new relationship but it just doesn’t seem to happen it can make you want a sign. I’ve been thinking about a professional reading of my birth chart but I don’t have any recommendations right now. I’m also in my 40s but I am in the middle of a divorce so maybe that’s why I’m mostly in the process of accepting that I’m single again. Also my H7 ruler is conjunct Saturn in my birth chart. It wasn’t until my first Saturn return that I had my first relationship. So I’m not expecting that anything is going to happen for a long time even if transit Jupiter will enter my H7 in 2023. I suspect there might be some karmic reasons for this and I’ve decided it’s a chance to learn to love myself a bit more. My north node is in my H2 of self value and Saturn is squaring it now and for the next 2 months. Then it will go on squaring my Sun and Vesta for another couple of months. Does your H7 ruler Jupiter make any aspects to planets in your birth chart? It can be challenging if there are aspects to Saturn, Pluto or Mars. But it can also provide you with an opportunity to work on your personal growth. Maybe you can check your north node? And does transit Saturn make any aspects to your natal planets anytime soon? IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 15, 2021 04:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by CardinalT-Square: You can start a new thread in the "Astrology 2.0" section to get his attention as he is one of the admins. 1PM definitely doesn't sound accurate, but anything is possible. Have you looked at transits and progressions of days that a major event happened to you? Check days that you started a new job, and/or a new relationship, and/or started a new business...etc. Also check Natal Charts of other people closest to you, and/or seen on a daily basis. Look for consistent patterns in as many of them as possible. For example: I attract a lot of women with Mars in Libra into my life because I have Natal Mars in my 7th House, and Mars/Saturn aspects because my Mars is in Capricorn. That last bit can be helpful if you have any planets/luminaries on the cusp/29°-0° point in two signs.
Thanks! I will check Astrology 2.0. And I am not that versed in astrology so I have no idea what to look at. I just checked transits and my progressed chart for the exact date when I moved from one country to another and that was also for someone I married and I have no clue what planets/aspects would show that in my chart. Can you please tell me what would point to major move - like long distance, cross country, different country? Also, I am confused...how would you use transits? Aren't they so quick? The planets literally move a few degrees in several days. How can that be a prediction of anything? And progressed chart shows almost no movement...
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 15, 2021 04:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Hi CuriousV, I can understand that when you feel ready for a new relationship but it just doesn’t seem to happen it can make you want a sign. I’ve been thinking about a professional reading of my birth chart but I don’t have any recommendations right now. I’m also in my 40s but I am in the middle of a divorce so maybe that’s why I’m mostly in the process of accepting that I’m single again. Also my H7 ruler is conjunct Saturn in my birth chart. It wasn’t until my first Saturn return that I had my first relationship. So I’m not expecting that anything is going to happen for a long time even if transit Jupiter will enter my H7 in 2023. I suspect there might be some karmic reasons for this and I’ve decided it’s a chance to learn to love myself a bit more. My north node is in my H2 of self value and Saturn is squaring it now and for the next 2 months. Then it will go on squaring my Sun and Vesta for another couple of months. Does your H7 ruler Jupiter make any aspects to planets in your birth chart? It can be challenging if there are aspects to Saturn, Pluto or Mars. But it can also provide you with an opportunity to work on your personal growth. Maybe you can check your north node? And does transit Saturn make any aspects to your natal planets anytime soon?
Thanks for your input and sorry to hear that you are going through a divorce right now. It's not a fun experience unless both parties are absolutely 100% on the same page about it being the right decision with no ill/hurt feelings involved... There are no Saturn or Pluto transits to any of my personal planets at the moment. I took a look at the transits for April/May 2022 and I see that the ruler of my 7H will be transiting through 5H and 7H around that time. And Jupiter will conjunct my IC. Not sure if that is significant? Like I mentioned to the poster above, I don't understand how transits would be important - they move so quickly, only a couple days. Aren't Solar Arc Directions the only true predictive tool? At least that's what I've been told/heard/read. If that's the case, then there is nothing in my chart for like another 8 years with Solar Arcs...maybe that's the time to try out being a nun? lol, joking, but not really...
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