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LilyIris07
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posted November 14, 2024 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Wow! Look at that. That is a whopper… Not only is it a t square but it’s a t square conjunct your IC, MC and DC. And you have a Yod, with Mars at the apex.

I feel that the issues around control you’ve been facing is definitely related to this. Your Mars, although with a wide orb is conjunct your DC and square Pluto and your Sun (which is conjunct your IC).

And your NN in Scorpio in the 9th house.

So, I can see themes related to transformation, control, power dynamics and the quest for wisdom particularly in the ares of identity, relationships and personal philosophy.

Whatever happened in your family dynamics as a child has shaped your self-identity massively particularly around safety and control. Pluto at the MC suggests issues around power dynamics at work .

However, I think the power issues around you are reflecting your shadow side, a deep need to work on your own issues around control and power (and as you say, anger) and to move beyond what you identified yourself as within the family unit (but also using the strength of these lessons to move forward).

Your ascendant and Mars in Virgo (at the Apex of the Yod) are the two energies that I I feel are important to focus on. Healing, sacred relationships, self-compassion, spirituality, transformation and self-awareness. Then with Pisces, balancing your sensitivity, wisdom, intuition and emotions with boundaries so that you can feel safe.

I’d love to have a deeper look but that is what I see at first glance.


This was so spot on thank you! And to be honest I work a lot with my intuition, spirituality, therapy and I’m in AA. So I do as much as I can when it comes to the self work… but I do agree that my shadow may be reflected back at me and I’m struggling with it.

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LilyIris07
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posted November 14, 2024 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
I was in another relationship when we met and he was the one that approached me though I had been attracted to hom right away. I left my other relationship which was on its last legs anyway, to be with him. However, the relationship ended very quickly too when I realised that my growth was being suppressed by my relationship with him. So yes, very NN and vertex influenced. His sun is on my vertex in synastry, in Sag.

Yes, I know it’s very intense! Yeah the Moon squares were definitely an issue. I felt there was very little compassion and trust between the two of us which is so different in my current relationship where there is nothing but compassion and trust.

We were together for 6 years. Have two kids together. It all happened quite quickly!


Six years is sort of long to me - but that’s because I haven’t had anything truly long term yet. But I rate that will change as I get closer to my Saturn return. It’s very interesting, I suppose the north node could point to feeling like hindered in your growth. I recently went on a couple dates with a guy, we have boring synastry - but in the composite there is a NN square, Venus, Sun - basically creating a t-square with NN at the apex. There’s also another one between Jupiter/Pluto, moon and Mercury. He ended up being like “I don’t feel the spark” but I just don’t think that’s the case - I think something triggered him and he ran away, because firstly I feel it intuitively and second, I feel his energy with me often. I still feel sort of magnetized, I go through periods where I’m like “I want that one” - but with my issues around relationships I’m not too sure if that’s intuition. I was curious about the north node contacts in the composite but nobody responded really 😅 - I did post the charts a little lower down if you’re interested in looking at all.

Do you think that the reason you couldn’t grow properly could have also been because your ex wasn’t working on himself and so you outgrew him?

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posted November 14, 2024 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Oh yes, he’s very much a bull in a china shop. He’s a Sag sun with Sag AC and Sun in the first house with an Aries moon. My most recent ex has an Aries AC and honestly that energy just doesn’t work for me in relationships though I am attracted to it because of my own Venus placement conjunct my AC in Leo.

I’m not a lover of too many fire placements with someone who has many fire placements too - it’s probably a lovely change to be with someone who is compassionate and loving. It sounds very nurturing your partner now….

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posted November 14, 2024 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for jumping on the thread with my own stuff 😅

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posted November 14, 2024 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
This was so spot on thank you! And to be honest I work a lot with my intuition, spirituality, therapy and I’m in AA. So I do as much as I can when it comes to the self work… but I do agree that my shadow may be reflected back at me and I’m struggling with it.

Ah, you’re welcome! I’ve only been studying for about a year and half (mainly teaching myself) so I welcome the practice.

Your Mars placement suggests you may meet someone at work, but also the t square and the NN and the opposition of Mars with your AC all suggest that you may meet your long term partner later on in life and that in the mean time your relationships will mainly be focused on lessons. But, it’s also important that you continue to have them once you’ve learned the lessons and healed, for your growth.

I do feel that doing work within the Virgo themes (but also utilising your Pisces gifts) is important - as they are the points of your t square and Yod, where you can find balance. I’ve also got a 3rd house sun and it’s in Virgo so I know the drive to teach and advise is strong (have you noticed?!? :-D) so perhaps teaching within the realms of health or healing in general or doing workshops in these areas is where you will meet. The Scorpio NN in the 9th house says the same to me.

Also you, in particular, need to find someone who is evolved and stable (Taurus Venus) and a good communicator. Someone who has a secure attachment (look at attachment theory) who is evolved. Someone who runs away is not for you. They are sending you a clear message that they aren’t the one. So good to be sent that message early on, although painful, of course.

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posted November 14, 2024 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Sorry for jumping on the thread with my own stuff 😅

No worries! I do like fire placements but more on the Leo side than the Aries and you’ll see why once you look at my chart.

And, my Moon and Mars hug your NN btw! ;-) Have a look if you like:

http://imgur.com/a/w4G1Ljh

How do you get your chart to show up as an image btw? I’ve only been able to make it work as a link!

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posted November 14, 2024 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Six years is sort of long to me - but that’s because I haven’t had anything truly long term yet. But I rate that will change as I get closer to my Saturn return. It’s very interesting, I suppose the north node could point to feeling like hindered in your growth. I recently went on a couple dates with a guy, we have boring synastry - but in the composite there is a NN square, Venus, Sun - basically creating a t-square with NN at the apex. There’s also another one between Jupiter/Pluto, moon and Mercury. He ended up being like “I don’t feel the spark” but I just don’t think that’s the case - I think something triggered him and he ran away, because firstly I feel it intuitively and second, I feel his energy with me often. I still feel sort of magnetized, I go through periods where I’m like “I want that one” - but with my issues around relationships I’m not too sure if that’s intuition. I was curious about the north node contacts in the composite but nobody responded really 😅 - I did post the charts a little lower down if you’re interested in looking at all.

Do you think that the reason you couldn’t grow properly could have also been because your ex wasn’t working on himself and so you outgrew him?


Just realised I didn’t answer your question… I think I thought that it was because I outgrew him but realised that it was that he was (and still is) emotionally immature/impulsive and self centred. Also, that we didn’t have a very strong emotional connection. It wasn’t easy to connect with him on a deep level. My moon is conjunct his Pluto in synastry but I think it was intensity not connection. I was doing a counselling course when we split up. I couldn’t get the depth from him that I could from my classmates and I felt deeply unfulfilled. We were just too different in the end

Because my Venus in Leo is square my Moon and Mars in Scorpio it’s been difficult to figure out what I want and to get it in relationships. I need both a deep emotional connection and to be intensely admired and appreciated with lots of physical affection. Also I’m quite an intense person which is why I’ve ended up with Aries types.

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LilyIris07
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posted November 15, 2024 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Ah, you’re welcome! I’ve only been studying for about a year and half (mainly teaching myself) so I welcome the practice.

Your Mars placement suggests you may meet someone at work, but also the t square and the NN and the opposition of Mars with your AC all suggest that you may meet your long term partner later on in life and that in the mean time your relationships will mainly be focused on lessons. But, it’s also important that you continue to have them once you’ve learned the lessons and healed, for your growth.

I do feel that doing work within the Virgo themes (but also utilising your Pisces gifts) is important - as they are the points of your t square and Yod, where you can find balance. I’ve also got a 3rd house sun and it’s in Virgo so I know the drive to teach and advise is strong (have you noticed?!? :-D) so perhaps teaching within the realms of health or healing in general or doing workshops in these areas is where you will meet. The Scorpio NN in the 9th house says the same to me.

Also you, in particular, need to find someone who is evolved and stable (Taurus Venus) and a good communicator. Someone who has a secure attachment (look at attachment theory) who is evolved. Someone who runs away is not for you. They are sending you a clear message that they aren’t the one. So good to be sent that message early on, although painful, of course.


Thank you! It’s very spot on ☺️

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LilyIris07
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posted November 15, 2024 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
No worries! I do like fire placements but more on the Leo side than the Aries and you’ll see why once you look at my chart.

And, my Moon and Mars hug your NN btw! ;-) Have a look if you like:

http://imgur.com/a/w4G1Ljh

How do you get your chart to show up as an image btw? I’ve only been able to make it work as a link!


I think I use imgbb or something like that?? And it gives you multiple options for links. imgbb.com I think it’s this site!

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posted November 15, 2024 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Just realised I didn’t answer your question… I think I thought that it was because I outgrew him but realised that it was that he was (and still is) emotionally immature/impulsive and self centred. Also, that we didn’t have a very strong emotional connection. It wasn’t easy to connect with him on a deep level. My moon is conjunct his Pluto in synastry but I think it was intensity not connection. I was doing a counselling course when we split up. I couldn’t get the depth from him that I could from my classmates and I felt deeply unfulfilled. We were just too different in the end

Because my Venus in Leo is square my Moon and Mars in Scorpio it’s been difficult to figure out what I want and to get it in relationships. I need both a deep emotional connection and to be intensely admired and appreciated with lots of physical affection. Also I’m quite an intense person which is why I’ve ended up with Aries types.


That makes sense - Aries types can be very passionate; but I do agree without some kind of Saturn or Pluto, they could be lacking in maturity. I do know some people who have both Scorpio and Leo in their charts, and it makes them very passionate and intense. I also love me some physical affection haha… but anyway I’m happy you’ve been able to meet someone who can hold true to those needs.

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posted November 16, 2024 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. Nice to chat with you

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