posted November 08, 2024 04:12 PM            

I can’t figure out how they stayed together for so long as the composite is definitely not great

Their natals with the composite

posted November 09, 2024 03:22 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Can you repost the charts? It seems the links broken on my side.

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Let me try it as a URL instead. I’m using Imgur and can’t figure out which link to copy because they have several options. This one is the image link… Fingers crossed this works

http://imgur.com/90pGiio

posted November 09, 2024 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Can you repost the charts? It seems the links broken on my side.

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Let me try it as a URL instead. I’m using Imgur and can’t figure out which link to copy because they have several options. This one is the image link… Fingers crossed this works

http://imgur.com/90pGiio

posted November 11, 2024 03:29 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Let me try it as a URL instead. I’m using Imgur and can’t figure out which link to copy because they have several options. This one is the image link… Fingers crossed this works

http://imgur.com/90pGiio

http://imgur.com/fj9u4Vi

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posted November 12, 2024 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
So, I see that NN is conjunct Uranus widely, which can sort of be a soulmate aspect but I think it’s really unstable?? Saturn is square to NN which can block a fully long term thing but sort of sticks them together until the lesson is learned? Vertex is also conjunct the DC, by one degree; that’s also like a soul mate kinda thing? But can be difficult to maintain long term? So there are some pointers to like a spiritual connection and perhaps some lesson learning and that’s why?

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posted November 12, 2024 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:

Thank you Lily, that all makes sense. North node stuff is really sticky but not always in an easy way, like you said. Also I’m curious about Sun conjunct Mars. I can imagine it can create quite a dynamic relationship that is exciting but also addictive

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posted November 12, 2024 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Yes, and also I think it can include ego clashing or perhaps arguments - I think it does have some sexual tension etc… but you know things can get out of hand when the energy is heightened. Also I’ve heard rumors it can point to a controlling male in the r.ship or perhaps there’s a clash in dominance etc…

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Forgot to quote the response above. I don’t seem to get any email notifications for responses anyway so not sure if it’s helpful or not.

posted November 13, 2024 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Ah interesting. In this case it was the woman not the man that was controlling. He also has Venus in Cancer square Pluto (and conjunct Saturn). He’s been mistreated in many relationships. So as opposed to acting it out he draws control and judgement to him

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posted November 13, 2024 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Forgot to quote the response above. I don’t seem to get any email notifications for responses anyway so not sure if it’s helpful or not.

Bang on re arguments and sexual tension. It’s a tricky one to build a stable relationship in particularly when there are so few positive (or any) aspects to personal planets in the composite

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posted November 13, 2024 03:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
God it sounds like me - drawing in people who are controlling and judging. But okay interesting, proof that mars/sun is not necessarily always the man being controlling.

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Yes, me too! My ex husband still tries to control and manipulate me. Actually I posted a question on Interpersonal showing our composite asking why as it’s a pretty decent composite. But his natal shows quite a bit of self centred energy.

Do you have a Plutonian chart at all? I have both a Scorpio moon and (conjunct) mars

posted November 13, 2024 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Definitely- without any softer aspects there’s less harmony. But perhaps when it was good it was really good type of thing, and when it was bad it was really bad.

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posted November 13, 2024 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Yes, me too! My ex husband still tries to control and manipulate me. Actually I posted a question on Interpersonal showing our composite asking why as it’s a pretty decent composite. But his natal shows quite a bit of self centred energy.

Do you have a Plutonian chart at all? I have both a Scorpio moon and (conjunct) mars

But I can also be controlling so I need to watch myself. I’ve done a lot of work on it and find that if I call myself out then I stop doing it

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posted November 13, 2024 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Yes, me too! My ex husband still tries to control and manipulate me. Actually I posted a question on Interpersonal showing our composite asking why as it’s a pretty decent composite. But his natal shows quite a bit of self centred energy.

Do you have a Plutonian chart at all? I have both a Scorpio moon and (conjunct) mars

But I can also be controlling so I need to watch myself. I’ve done a lot of work on it and find that if I call myself out then I stop doing it

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posted November 13, 2024 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Yes, I think you’re definitely right there. They were together for 11 years. Proof that someone with a Venus square Pluto will put up with maltreatment for a long time. Also, the Saturn conjunct pluto would make it difficult to see things clearly too because of the insecurity around love and being loved

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posted November 13, 2024 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Not really… I mean, I have a Scorpio NN, opposite Venus in Taurus/SN - and then I have a T-square between my Sun (Gemini), Mars (Leo) and Pluto (Scorpio). But I don’t really identify as Plutonian at all, although at my work I’m constantly put into situations with my co-teachers who have Scorpio placements, my co-teacher last year has a Moon/Mars in Scorpio similar to you and I really struggled with her in the classroom because she was super controlling. My co-teacher this year is the same, except that she also has a jealous streak and hates me more when I’m doing well with managing the class and having fun with them. I honestly don’t know why I keep getting put in these situations, I mean I have no hate towards Scorpios but I’ve been experiencing the negative sides of them for the last two ish years and I’m out here like… what am I doing wrong? My T-square makes it difficult for me to stand up for myself, because I really struggle with anger, I will try as hard as ivan to be flexible and peaceful but for some odd reason that ends up being taken advantage of and gets seen as “she can’t make decisions etc…” which is not the truth, I just don’t want to have some sort of ego clash or deal with people hating on me so I take a step back. Anyway… sorry, this is no hate towards Scorpio placements - I know some people are more evolved than others 😅. I just have no idea how to deal with it…. Because I feel like I’m bringing out the worst in people by just being myself.

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Ooo…! That can happen to me too. I think there is something about me that triggers people sometimes. Even though I’ve got Scorpio I also have Leo ASC conjunct Venus. I find that I just want to be friendly to everyone but I come across a lot of people who exclude me.

Can I see your natal..? A t square must be challenging. I’d be curious to see why you are pulling in people who are controlling.

posted November 13, 2024 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Gosh yeah 11 years is a while hey. . Do you mind putting up the link for the composite with your ex? I’d like to take a look.

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Yeah sure. Would love to see what you think. Lots of conjunctions and intensity. Pluto conjunctions and Saturn square moon..

posted November 13, 2024 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Ooo…! That can happen to me too. I think there is something about me that triggers people sometimes. Even though I’ve got Scorpio I also have Leo ASC conjunct Venus. I find that I just want to be friendly to everyone but I come across a lot of people who exclude me.

Can I see your natal..? A t square must be challenging. I’d be curious to see why you are pulling in people who are controlling.

My most challenging aspect is a yod with Chiron in Taurus at the point. And probably my NN in Leo in the second house (issues around self worth). And Saturn conjunct Mercury and a wide conjunction with my sun! :-) So it’s the Saturn conjunction Mercury in Libra that makes me come across as a push over.

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Sure! Here’s my chart -

posted November 13, 2024 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Yeah sure. Would love to see what you think. Lots of conjunctions and intensity. Pluto conjunctions and Saturn square moon..

http://imgur.com/a/XqbZ5vi

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posted November 14, 2024 04:03 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Strangely, my current relationship (which has a few Pluto squares) feels very nurturing and balanced. But I wonder if this is because both our ACs MCs and vertex’s make an exact conjunction in synastry. and that our sun and Venus are in Cancer in the composite

This is the composite with my current partner - http://imgur.com/a/rWlopUu if you’re interested in that too.

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posted November 14, 2024 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Sure! Here’s my chart -

It is challenging and I try my best to be aware of it - but sometimes it’s really just me fighting me. Ah yes interesting! I just wonder if it’s something psychological- like we shine our light on others shadows.

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Wow! Look at that. That is a whopper… Not only is it a t square but it’s a t square conjunct your IC, MC and DC. And you have a Yod, with Mars at the apex.

I feel that the issues around control you’ve been facing is definitely related to this. Your Mars, although with a wide orb is conjunct your DC and square Pluto and your Sun (which is conjunct your IC).

And your NN in Scorpio in the 9th house.

So, I can see themes related to transformation, control, power dynamics and the quest for wisdom particularly in the ares of identity, relationships and personal philosophy.

Whatever happened in your family dynamics as a child has shaped your self-identity massively particularly around safety and control. Pluto at the MC suggests issues around power dynamics at work .

However, I think the power issues around you are reflecting your shadow side, a deep need to work on your own issues around control and power (and as you say, anger) and to move beyond what you identified yourself as within the family unit (but also using the strength of these lessons to move forward).

Your ascendant and Mars in Virgo (at the Apex of the Yod) are the two energies that I I feel are important to focus on. Healing, sacred relationships, self-compassion, spirituality, transformation and self-awareness. Then with Pisces, balancing your sensitivity, wisdom, intuition and emotions with boundaries so that you can feel safe.

posted November 14, 2024 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
so you think the controlling aspects of Pluto came out towards you from him? Also how did you experience the NN squares to the love stellium sun/mercury/venus? Was it difficult for you guys to get together in the beginning or you couldn’t get on the same page? Or was it just a fated feeling of knowing you had to be with this person annd learn some lessons? And how long were you together? Also I see that you have vertex on the DC again, so that aspect seems very fated for some couples. I do see the moon had very little cushioning - it’s a very concentrated composite though.

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I was in another relationship when we met and he was the one that approached me though I had been attracted to hom right away. I left my other relationship which was on its last legs anyway, to be with him. However, the relationship ended very quickly too when I realised that my growth was being suppressed by my relationship with him. So yes, very NN and vertex influenced. His sun is on my vertex in synastry, in Sag.

Yes, I know it’s very intense! Yeah the Moon squares were definitely an issue. I felt there was very little compassion and trust between the two of us which is so different in my current relationship where there is nothing but compassion and trust.

posted November 14, 2024 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
so you think the controlling aspects of Pluto came out towards you from him? Also how did you experience the NN squares to the love stellium sun/mercury/venus? Was it difficult for you guys to get together in the beginning or you couldn’t get on the same page? Or was it just a fated feeling of knowing you had to be with this person annd learn some lessons? And how long were you together? Also I see that you have vertex on the DC again, so that aspect seems very fated for some couples. I do see the moon had very little cushioning - it’s a very concentrated composite though.

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