posted February 17, 2015 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Which easy horary book would you buy/recommend for a beginner?

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Why not check out a few at the library and see what you like, see what's worth buying...?

posted February 17, 2015 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Has anyone ever asked the universe what they should do about a particular relationship, but through casting a horary chart? - Which house would you use?

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posted February 17, 2015 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
I have a question, I once read "ask a stupid questions and you will get a stupid answer" (this is for horary).

SO my deal is what stupid questions would that be?
As some of you may have read my thread about my whole ear ordeal, in the time I waited to see the ENT about the onset ringing/blockage and after having wit removed and the ringing disappearing, I asked "do I have menieres disease?" I got a YES (unless im interpreting it wrong -____- and it wasnt that as the ringing was done by me putting in alcohol and pushing further in the wax against my edrum. So this is what brings me to this question and reminded me once where I read about horary, "ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer" has anyone ever tested horary out this way before? Where its been wrong for you? Because if horary cant ever be wrong then it would indicate that yes in the future I will develop this even though it's not now. And again horary is a way to look into the future/outcome, right? I would like to know your opinions on this.

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I think I've read that somewhere before too... it's related to the horary rule that you must be personally invested in the questions you ask, not asking out of curiosity, not spying either.

about your dilemma, I think the root of the problem that many of us make at one point or another is that we are too hasty with questions, we ask, get an answer, then we think of a similar related question and we ask it, thinking it's a different question because we've used different words.... all the while, we are completely forgetting that we don't really ask the questions with words, but with energy, and the universe speaks back with energy that we try to explain with words - we use words only to explain things to each other and to remember things ourselves. Our connection to the universe is not with words, but with energy.

What I mean in regards to your question is that the series of questions you are asking are all the same: what is wrong with my ear/hearing and is it permanent or will it stop/get better? Probably the first question answered everything, so then when you go on to ask similar questions, they all become invalid charts, producing confusing answers, because you already got the answer in the first chart.

Hope that makes sense...

posted March 26, 2015 04:59 AM              

I've got a quick question for you, I always thought that the moon was the co significator for the querent, however recently I've caught on that it represents the situation more generally.

Bearing that in mind, I have asked another love related horary (sigh) and what I have found is that the querent (me) and the quesited are not aspecting. However, the quesited has conjunct applied or trine applied to the moon. The moon has been in either my first house, or his first/my seventh house.

posted March 26, 2015 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm just now joining this thread to bring up a question about aspects - what if the other significator aspects the Asc, but not the Asc ruler?

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I wouldn't trust the Quesited's Lord aspecting the AC point as a primary indicator of the answer, only as secondary support for the answer. As I understand it, any planet aspecting a 'point' (such as Ascendant, Part of Fortune, Nodes of the Moon...) add support, add more information or work as benefic or malefic influence according to the whole of the question, but cannot solely answer a question on their own. This is the case for using Fixed Stars (Spica, Regulus, Antares, Aldebaran, Caput Algol, etc...)

>> Keep in mind, that in Horary, when using points and fixed stars, you should generally use conjunctions and aspects with about ONE degree of difference or less. So, those 5* conjunctions or trines don't really count.

posted March 26, 2015 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Hi AB,

... moon ... I've caught on that it represents the situation more generally.

... the querent (me) and the quesited are not aspecting. However, the quesited has ... applied to the moon.

What does an applying aspect to the situation itself signify do you think?

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I feel like, in general, it means the quesited is open to the situation. But, it may just be describing future events (as they relate to the question), so it can depend on the specific question. It can also depend on other things like interception, impedition, retrogrades, etc...

Ultimately, Moon applying to the Quesited's MAIN significator is a good sign, but wouldn't necessarily confirm a yes (especially if the aspect is not a trine), without additional support. You might also want to consider how wide the aspect is, whether there's reception, where they land by house/sign, dignities, etc... and what kind of meaning that adds to the scenario. You have to check the other aspects of the Moon, it's placement, is it in the Via Combusta, Cazimi/Combust, etc...

posted March 28, 2015 07:00 PM              

QUESTION: I thought that another woman was only symbolised by Venus. However, in this instance, you suggest that the Sun could represent a person too?
What is the actual rule on this?

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Originally posted by appleberry:
It could be Venus, especially if it were located in his first house, or conjunct his main significator.

The general rule for the other woman, in terms of his feelings for her (if it's just an affair and not a public commitment, like his actual gf/wife) is using HIS 5th house from HIS first house. So, if he is represented by the 7th, then the other woman is represented by the 5th of the 7th, which is the radical 11th house. The 5th house can mean children, creative projects, etc... though, so don't always assume there is another woman unless there is additional support for that thought.

In the chart above there is mutual reception by sign an house of the lords of the 7th and the turned 5th... but both in a state that will change - Rx for him and a sign change for her. So, it kind of seems like another woman unless there is some other explanation that makes more sense. But, things are going to change soon, somehow.

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posted May 02, 2015 10:40 AM            

1. Can sometimes Jupiter mean another person besides the querent or the quesited in horary?

2.Can I ask horary question like"What's M's ASC"? If so, how to read this kind of chart? If I use 7th house for M, which house should I use related to his ASC?

posted May 02, 2015 05:25 PM            

1. Absolutely, and you would look to which houses Jupiter rules to find clues on who that might be.

2. I personally couldn't answer that question with any certainty. However, anything describing the quesited will be represented by the quesited's first house so I would look there for the answer.

3. This difficulty never stops, which is why I started a thread just on discussing that subject. It it seems like it should be the easy part, but I'm pretty sure it's the most difficult.

The most important point is to find out what the REAL question is. Who cares if they divorce for her. That does nothing. But, in her mind she has probably jumped to the conclusion that she will get together with this guy and have a great relationship with him and this girl will no longer be a problem. Jumping to conclusions, jumps over the real question at hand.

The real question might be, for example: Will he commit to me? Then, that seems like a 7th house question, because it is about relationship in a static form. Her basic 'want' concerning this question is his commitment in the form of a relationship it seems. (I don't need Horary to know the answer to that one though - the guy couldn't even commit to his wife, and now he's using her sickness as an excuse not to commit to this fling... He's a "user"––not the kind of guy anyone should waste their emotions on. He's not deeply in love with her, he's deeply in love with being able to get away with doing whatever he wants, being able to please himself and 'get what he wants' without taking responsibility for his horrible actions. He's likely using his wife for security and continuity, and using other women for excitement, adventure, and sexual-gratification.)

Taking the question as it is without figuring out what is the real question at hand, regarding house choices there might be some things to consider. Here's an example of how you can do it, with 2 scenarios (It is complicated):

Turn the house as needed, but we'll use the friend as the 1st house as if she asked the question.

On one hand, I would say he would be her 5th house because he cannot be her 7th house. He has already chosen to maintain his 7th house status with his wife, so that role is filled. And, he refuses to play a 7th house role with the querent (by refusing public commitment). The 5th house is also about promiscuity, and sexual scandals, which is seemingly the role this person has chosen to play with the querent, even if he is deceiving her into believing it is something more.

The other scenario I would consider is using the 12th house for him. This seems like a clandestine love affair, and seems to cover many areas reflective of the 12th house such as: sorrow, anguish, self-undoing, a sort of imprisonment, dirty secrets, fear of consequences, shameful actions... The whole scenario of his making is very 12th house in nature, so it seems quite natural that 12th house would at least play a large role in this scenario. The 12th house is also the house of unknown enemies (7th house is known enemies)... which this man likely is for the querent, given that he is using her for fun and self-gratification. He is in the process of 'stealing' things like her: morality, affection, body, pride, reputation, opportunity to have a real relationship... She might be naive and unaware of his role in this way, because he has convinced her that he is someone he is not. He is a secret enemy because he is doing harm to her but she believes he is doing good.

People are going to read this situation in different ways, and different information is available to different people in the scenario. And, every question is different and needs to be read as a whole. You are correct in understanding that choosing the correct house is exceptionally difficult in many cases. All you can do is: do the best you can with the information you have, ask questions where you have a feeling there might be something different going on, and read with the best of your ability. It is for these reasons that I believe no reader out there can read with 100% accuracy...

Just do your best, and hope the question's scenario has been conveyed to you honestly, so you aren't destined to misconstrue the chart's symbolism and give a false reading.

posted May 02, 2015 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:

1. Absolutely, and you would look to which houses Jupiter rules to find clues on who that might be. ..........

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posted May 13, 2015 09:44 AM            

is chart readable if there is Saturn in 1st house of turned chart?
For example, horary chart about my brothers job with Saturn in my 3rd house?
Also, what means when main significator is at 0 degree?

posted May 16, 2015 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
Appleberry,

is chart readable if there is Saturn in 1st house of turned chart?
For example, horary chart about my brothers job with Saturn in my 3rd house?
Also, what means when main significator is at 0 degree?

Thank you in advance.

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posted May 16, 2015 09:18 PM              

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Originally posted by ikja:
If an applying opposition means that a relationship may come together and then break apart, an applying sextile means that things could go either way and an applying trine means yes...

What does an applying square mean?

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posted May 19, 2015 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Now, appleberry , I would like to know how you can tell Jupiter (for example) is another person? How can you tell the difference in the role it plays? (For instance, yes it may be aspecting the ASC ruler but we've also learned whatever aspects the ASC ruler describes them as well)

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posted May 20, 2015 01:20 AM            

For example, if my question is "Will I quit my current job?"
If I see my significator is trine or sexile the job's significtor, applying. Does it mean yes, I will quit the current job? If it is opposite or square, means no, I will keep the job?

Please clarify, thanks.