posted July 06, 2014 01:05 PM            

Maybe it takes our Twin to cut through the BS we've heaped upon ourselves since birth. It is strange, that until him, my self esteem was practically nil, and being worn to a nub even further. It's not even his words or actions -- he tried extremely hard to be unlikable, to avoid connexion. He was caustic, abrasive, intermittent, and arrogant.

And yet, somehow, I was changing.

By 2012, when we reconnected after he confessed, I'll never forget the email I sent him, thanking him, regardless of what transpired or would be, because he was the one who loved me -- exactly as I was -- when I couldn't love myself.

Imagine then the CRUSHING blow when he 'took it all back' January 2013. Clearly, I'd been given the tools to truly love myself now -- I had to USE them. I was being administered the ULTIMATE test of its kind; I was going to have to now have the strength of self to combat the pain HE was causing; to believe, unshakeably, within myself, that I am not only worthy of love, but I have SO much of it to give, and SO much to share with this world.

It really hit me when I was walking the airport a year ago. My hair a mess and twisted up in a pony-tail, wearing my 'If you don't think, you shouldn't talk,' Mad Hatter baby-doll tee shirt, and none-to-impressive but fitted cotton black pants -- and some sort of footwear. Maybe my loafers. Maybe my chunky Grecian sandals. They give me a couple of inches, so, likely.

I'd heard a woman tell her daughter that I was 'one of those stars without her makeup from Hollywood.' They proceeded to guess what series I was on.

I remember laughing to myself, and thinking, it had NOTHING to do with my looks -- even though they've steadily improved as I've 'come into my own'. It's entirely my attitude. I walk with confidence -- my head high, my posture as perfect as usual. I do seem as if I'm used to being on camera, even as I've simply been that way all of my life.

I'd just never believed I could ACTUALLY hack it until recently. I wasn't 'pretty enough'. I was 'a nobody'.

Want a serious test of your self-esteem? Live in Los Angeles for awhile. You'll either buckle under the pressure or realise you were always the cream and rise to the top.

With my MOON Dwad on 28° LEO, I've discovered into which category I fall.

posted July 06, 2014 01:09 PM            

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Moon square Venus
Moon square Saturn
Moon square NN
Moon square Chiron
Moon quincunx Mars
Moon at the 29th degree
Chiron conjunct SN in the 11th
Chiron opposite Saturn and Sun
Saturn conjunct NN, Venus and Sun
I won

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Yeah, I don't have any squares.

:: ducks ::

Unless you count NODES? Then they square my LILITH.

posted July 06, 2014 03:30 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So interesting. Following your thoughts, I'm thinking in terms of sexuality 2nd and 8th relates to the basic physical/emotional needs when it comes to sex and the physical approach, while the 5th/11th axis: the actual "romance/eros" style of give-and-take, expressiveness, the roles played, how we play "the game of love and sex", like sexual courtship rituals/preferences (within the relationship).

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Yes, I believe that is true.

Mr Sag and me actually have an interesting mirroring going on with the succedent cross, and Ithink that might be -at least partly- the reason I am so "instincturally" responsive to him.
It takes one to know one, right?

posted July 06, 2014 03:34 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

It takes one to know one, right?

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Right! lol

posted July 06, 2014 03:39 PM              

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Lee & Lotus, you're both very welcome. Glad this has been brought up again, it's such a good topic and tends to be forgotten about in overlays.

I can only really agree with what Lotis and Ceridwen said on this.

Self esteem issues can definitely make you feel like you're not worth of any appreciation, possibly rejecting people or pushing them away. Or that you're not good enough for this or that person.

As for the 11th house, again, I'm smiling at my screen.

I have an afflicted 11th house ruler which is in the 11th as well, my Sun. Pluto's square from the 2nd house - that's it. It gives me this compulsion to prove myself, like I have to "deserve" being liked by people I want to be liked by. Trying to be easier on myself these days.
It also gets a harsh aspect from Saturn and a positive one from my moon.

About seeing bad behaviour as loving... I can relate sadly. Pluto's need for control made - and still makes - me drawn to "powerful" people who are a tad dominant. A lot of my friendships did have controlling behaviour and I thought it was normal. Same with the Plutonian push-pull - then they want me, then they don't. Revenge, needing to be in control and one-up me or whoever they had a problem with. Very unpredictable and made it hard when I'd get attached to them. A few of them were self-centred (Mars and Sun) and I naturally took the backseat to them. It reminded me of my upbringing.

It says so much about me liking moons falling in my 11th. They just get me, which makes me relax and just give them a lot of my time. Maybe there's a link with 5th house ruler Uranus (showing love) being part of a stellium that includes my moon?

The other planet in my 11th, Mars, aspects Pluto, Saturn and the moon as well, and trines Uranus, ruler of H5. Hmm... maybe this means that there's some mutual giving and taking between these houses?

But yes, it all fits! When I don't feel loved, I curl into myself and try to grit my teeth and deal, to get through (Saturn), get clingy and super-sensitive (Moon) or just obsess over why they don't like me & what went wrong. I fret a lot, stirring up some powerful emotions (Pluto).

The people I feel most comfortable with always have a few of these three signs in their chart (or dominant) or Aries, Leo or Virgo through the sun and Mars in my 11th and some of it being Virgo as well.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:52 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
As to the 2H and 8H, Lee, it's interesting how they interplay.

I've often seen harsh aspects and afflictions from the 8H or 8R when there's a breakdown in sexual response. Then if we find the 2H or 2R afflicted, it furthers the portrait of 'I don't like myself (because I've been shown others don't like me).' It's a mirror, in a sense.

If we don't first tackle the 2H, we can't expect to be able to reach the 8H. Unless we own our personal and private sexuality, we can't hope to express or share it with others.

Naturally, progressions and transits can be very telling here. And if karma is being activated, there will be strong overlays with the Draco.

I think, also, that if we don't have enough connexions between the 2H, and 5H / 11H, there will be too much internalisation. The 2H is a sort of egocentric 'soul fuel' -- despite the contradiction in terms. It's where we can transmute personal karma into assets, talents, and karmic gifts. That can then 'power' the 5H (inspiration of self) and 11H (fraternity, universal love and inspiration of others).

We usually find the initial breakdown in 2H; singletons, hard aspects -- things which don't reach above the horizon.

In turn, unless the 2H energy is 'transmuted', it won't activate 8H, either. Sex can take place, but it will never be a merging or sharing. This is 'selfish sexuality' -- possessed by those who are fearful, paranoid, and unable to cross the interpersonal bridge, due to betrayals and abandonment. Can absolutely be karmic, too, but the way it must be handled is the same way as reaching out to the West (5H) and the 11H (above the horizon).

The only way our soul is ever truly able to connect with others in the third dimension.

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I agree with all of that.

In my own chart I find the succedent cross, esp. 2nd-8th axis intriguing. Not easy by any means, and I haven`t delved to the bottom of it yet (sometimes seems a bottomless pit), but probably very descriptive of some issues of mine.

In my case I have Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp, with Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house (not intercepted though); and Saturn is in Cancer in 8th house, roughly (4 degrees) conjunct my Vertex and EROS in Cancer in 8th house as well.

Now what I find intriguing is, that the ruler of my 2nd house (Saturn) is in 8th house; and the ruler of my 8th house (Moon) is in 2nd house.

Even though Moon is technically unaspected (no ptolemaic aspects), it DOES have an exact quinkunx to Moon. Considering they are in mutual houserecption, that makes me pay attention A LOT.

Moon is also exactly semisextile JUNO and is part of a parallel/contraparallel pattern.

Moon: 11.05 S
Uranus: 11.27 S
Pluto: 11.40 N
Juno: 10.22 S

Interestingly URanus and Pluto play a rule in terms of the 11th house, as Pluto rules it and Uranus sits on its cusp.

Saturn, the ruler of 2nd house in 8th house, is a singleton, being the ONLY planet in the Western hemisphere. Retrograde. In CAncer. In 8th house.
I like my karma intense, don`t I?

I think it might be really fortunate that he is NOT unaspected.
Saturn has a trine to Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house (which rules practically everything that is not tied to Moon or Venus or Saturn in my chart, including my ASC).

Saturn is in Cancer, so in the sign where Jupiter is exalted.
So whatever issues I have at least I can TALK about them, and it might be helpful to sort them out (oh and write about them as well of course, creative outlet is never bad)

Saturn also has an exact trine to JUNO in Pisces in 3rd house. Which is the most precise aspect in my chart, a trine with only one minute of orb.

The interconnection between Moon, Juno and Saturn, despite being 12th harmonic aspects between Moon and SAturn, and MOon and Juno, resonates through all harmonics because they are so tight in orb.

Moon quinkunx Saturn: 0.09
Moon semisextile Juno: 0.08
Saturn trine Juno: 0.01

The ruler of 2nd in 8th house, and ruler of 8th house in 2nd house, and ruler of 2nd house quinkunx ruler of 8th house of course also mirrors the Venus-Pluto-square on the planetary level.

Where it gets even more complex is that this planetary Venus-Pluto - square actually represents the 5th-11th challenge in my chart.

Venus rules the 5th house and is in Capricorn, disposited by 2nd house ruler Saturn in 8th house, which in turn is disposited by the 8th house ruler Moon in 2nd house; and Moon again is disposited by Uranus in Scorpio on the cusp of 11th house.

Pluto rules the 11th house (and 12th house) and sits in Libra, in the rulership of Venus herself.

It is like a web. LOL

So Moon, Saturn, (Juno) and Venus, Pluto do have some interesting interconnections in my chart, though not necessarily through aspects (Moon is novile Venus though, Venus squares Pluto)

And they are all relating to the fixed cross.

I found it intriguing to see htat Mr Sag has the same planets being important in this area, just differently.

For him Moon rules the 5th house and Saturn rules the 11th house (and like me he has a square between the rulers of 5th and 11th house).

Venus rules the 2nd house, Pluto rules the 8th house (they are square).

Venus is in Capricorn in 11th, ruled by his 5th house ruler Moon.
Pluto is in Libra in 7th, ruled by his 2nd house ruler Venus.

just barely scratching the surface here.

posted July 06, 2014 03:55 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
As to the 2H and 8H, Lee, it's interesting how they interplay.

I've often seen harsh aspects and afflictions from the 8H or 8R when there's a breakdown in sexual response. Then if we find the 2H or 2R afflicted, it furthers the portrait of 'I don't like myself (because I've been shown others don't like me).' It's a mirror, in a sense.

If we don't first tackle the 2H, we can't expect to be able to reach the 8H. Unless we own our personal and private sexuality, we can't hope to express or share it with others.

Naturally, progressions and transits can be very telling here. And if karma is being activated, there will be strong overlays with the Draco.

I think, also, that if we don't have enough connexions between the 2H, and 5H / 11H, there will be too much internalisation. The 2H is a sort of egocentric 'soul fuel' -- despite the contradiction in terms. It's where we can transmute personal karma into assets, talents, and karmic gifts. That can then 'power' the 5H (inspiration of self) and 11H (fraternity, universal love and inspiration of others).

We usually find the initial breakdown in 2H; singletons, hard aspects -- things which don't reach above the horizon.

In turn, unless the 2H energy is 'transmuted', it won't activate 8H, either. Sex can take place, but it will never be a merging or sharing. This is 'selfish sexuality' -- possessed by those who are fearful, paranoid, and unable to cross the interpersonal bridge, due to betrayals and abandonment. Can absolutely be karmic, too, but the way it must be handled is the same way as reaching out to the West (5H) and the 11H (above the horizon).

The only way our soul is ever truly able to connect with others in the third dimension.

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posted July 06, 2014 04:07 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I choose cake

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posted July 06, 2014 08:55 PM            

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...as opposed to what? Saturn?

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Or death?

posted July 06, 2014 10:56 PM            

Lets take a look at your 5th/11th Axis to see what's up. I peeked at your chart from another thread. You said don't quote so I'll restrain myself from doing so.

So your 11th house is Cancer ruled by Moon in Libra. And your 5th house is Capricorn ruled by Saturn in Cap also in the 5th house.

Looking at your 11th I see that the Moon does square Saturn but this aspect seems to be 3 or 4 degrees off. A tighter aspect I see for the Moon is a square to your Venus in early Aqua (if your Moon moved just one degree more it'd be in Scorpio)... I think when it comes to squares we need to take the natures planets into account too. A Venus/Moon square is rather soft for a square, and actually kind of affectionate in slightly pushy way. In terms of receiving attention from other have you found this to be the case? And have you had occasional issues with other women? Another thing to consider is your Jupiter in Leo in the 11th house. How is it aspected? This too will affect how you receive attention from others. Jupiter adds enthusiasm to your experience of receiving attention. You tend to attract admiration from Cancer, Sagittarius, Libra, the early part of Leo, and maybe Taurus/Gemini (the Moon is in the 2nd conjunct the 3rd house).

Your 5th house is very busy. Along with Saturn you've also got Neptune, Sun, and Venus in the 5th. They can't all be aspected that badly, and each will have an impact on how you express your personal feelings, affections, and inspirations. Saturn does receive a square from your Moon but it also receives a trine from your Taurus Mars. With your full 5th house you tend to be inspired and attracted by a range of energy types. Other Capricorns, Pisces, Leo, Venus people (Taurus/Libra), and the early part of Aquarius. Mars trine your 5th house ruler aught to be helpful in terms of getting your message across in an energetic and direct way. It adds some courage to your Cappy Saturn, which is also in the 5th as well as ruling it. Neptune right on top of your 5th house cusp would add an ethereal dreamy type attitude towards romance. That is your own perfect vision of how your want experience falling in love, mixed with some cappy common sense. You are attracted to those who have an interesting private world inside themselves if that makes any sense. They might space out into fantasy land on occasion, and need a little guidance keeping track of details. You might even find it cute if someone is a tad bit hopeless (as long as they're not completely hopeless! These planets are all in Capricorn after all).

posted July 07, 2014 05:53 AM            

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...as opposed to what? Saturn?

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posted July 07, 2014 06:39 AM              

very great analysis of Lotis, I just wanted to add one more observation.

"Moon is a square to your Venus in early Aqua (if your Moon moved just one degree more it'd be in Scorpio)... "!
Since Moon is in Libra, it is "answering" to Venus, who in this aspect might have the "last say".
Maybe that means the Uranian vibe will come out more strongly than one would expect otherwise, a more unique, independent and individualistic response to how others show their affection.

What house does Venus rule? themes of this house might figure into what you need to feel appreciated.

I have something similiar going on, ruler of my 11th house is Pluto in Libra squaring Venus, and Pluto responds to Venus, so in a way Venus holds the key, or is at least an important piece of the puzzle.

Venus herself rules the 5th, 6h and 10th house; Pluto sits in the 10th house. Venus is in Capricorn. There is a lot of targeting of 10th house/ Capricorn-symbolism, and I often find that people in my workplace, especially superiors and authority-figures, usually quite older than me, appreciate me a lot.
I usually don´t understand why and think they see something in me that isn`t quite there, and feel almost like a bit of a fraud, but so far it`s been true, that I have experienced a lot of support by boss-figures (though at the same time usually at a professional distance).
And no it does not lead to a big promotion or career, but msot of all becuase I refuse this. People do not understand that at all, but I simply don`t WANT to have a big career, being the one on top and all.
Still I get somehow pushed or raised into leading positions, even if on minor kind, and once there, it seems impossible to get rid of them anymore.
But it is not because I really want it, it is because I am sort of pushed to there. *sighs*

I could imagine it is a bit Venus doing here. Dispositing my 11th house ruler, which sits on MC itself, it seems like people see an image of me that projects some sort of competence I suppose. And can you believe it? they are convince I have ORGANISATIONAL skills!
I coudl laugh about that, really. What makes them think that?
If I lack a thing it is clearly the skill to organize matters. They should see my work-place at home!
Actually they SEE my workplace and work and they STILL believe I have these skills.
I can`t even begin to understand that.
As I said, I feel like a fraud sometimes, and even though I tell them that I am not like that, they just don`t believe me. They think I am just being modest, when I am actually honest. lol

Anyway, so that is how the Venus as dispositing my 11th house ruler, and being in aspect with it, works for me.

Oh of course Venus ALSO rules 5th house, so I suppose in my case you can`t really break up the interconnection of my attraction to someone or something and being on the receiving end, just like it happens with 2nd and 8th house as well.

Well, it seems the 5th house ruler has the last say here (as it disposits my 11th house ruler).
and the 8th house ruler hast he lsat say as well, as it disposts my 2nd house ruler.

Of course my 2nd house ruler disposits my 5th house ruler, so it gets way complicated. lol

posted July 07, 2014 07:52 AM            

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Looking at your 11th I see that the Moon does square Saturn but this aspect seems to be 3 or 4 degrees off. A tighter aspect I see for the Moon is a square to your Venus in early Aqua (if your Moon moved just one degree more it'd be in Scorpio)

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Moon-Saturn is tighter (3 vs 5). And my Moon is 7 minutes away from Scorpio.

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Another thing to consider is your Jupiter in Leo in the 11th house. How is it aspected?

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Jupiter adds enthusiasm to your experience of receiving attention.

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Neptune right on top of your 5th house cusp would add an ethereal dreamy type attitude towards romance. That is your own perfect vision of how your want experience falling in love, mixed with some cappy common sense.

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You are attracted to those who have an interesting private world inside themselves if that makes any sense. They might space out into fantasy land on occasion, and need a little guidance keeping track of details. You might even find it cute if someone is a tad bit hopeless (as long as they're not completely hopeless! These planets are all in Capricorn after all).

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Thank you!

posted July 07, 2014 08:03 AM            

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Maybe that means the Uranian vibe will come out more strongly than one would expect otherwise, a more unique, independent and individualistic response to how others show their affection.

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What house does Venus rule? themes of this house might figure into what you need to feel appreciated.

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It rules the 2nd house (with the Moon) and the 9th house (with Mars).

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Venus herself rules the 5th, 6h and 10th house.

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Thanks for sharing your story, it's funny. I can understand your feelings towards being the leader. It can be tiresome in the long run. Dreamers like us need a lot of time to run around with fairies

posted July 07, 2014 10:38 AM              

I think this is an interesting "unorthodox" mutual reception: mutual reception by house and Saturn ruled by Moon, plus Moon ruled by "old" Aqua ruler. Yep. It is mutual reception: by house AND sign. So there must be a flow here.

posted July 07, 2014 10:50 AM              

Jupiter oversees all the mental and masculine planets in my chart.
Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, Jupiter - I call it the mind`s light.

Moon and SAturn as a mutual reception oversee everything else.
Moon Venus Saturn Uranus Pluto
it`s the dark light of my soul I suppose.

I think though it is fortunate that two of these overseers over my planetary trees are talking to each other, as Jupiter is trine Saturn.
In the end Jupiter might have the upper hand though over everything else, as it is in domicile (Pisces) and Saturn is in the exaltation of Jupiter.

If my chart were a house, Jupiter would be sitting on the roof, keeping everything else under his shelter.

posted July 07, 2014 02:21 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

If my chart were a house, Jupiter would be sitting on the roof, keeping everything else under his shelter.

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posted July 07, 2014 07:37 PM            

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Venus herself rules the 5th, 6h and 10th house; Pluto sits in the 10th house. Venus is in Capricorn. There is a lot of targeting of 10th house/ Capricorn-symbolism, and I often find that people in my workplace, especially superiors and authority-figures, usually quite older than me, appreciate me a lot.
I usually don´t understand why and think they see something in me that isn`t quite there, and feel almost like a bit of a fraud, but so far it`s been true, that I have experienced a lot of support by boss-figures (though at the same time usually at a professional distance).
And no it does not lead to a big promotion or career, but msot of all becuase I refuse this. People do not understand that at all, but I simply don`t WANT to have a big career, being the one on top and all.
Still I get somehow pushed or raised into leading positions, even if on minor kind, and once there, it seems impossible to get rid of them anymore.
But it is not because I really want it, it is because I am sort of pushed to there. *sighs*

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Hi Ceri,

This is interesting. Venus rules your Mc and it squares your 11th house ruler, as well as functioning as it's dispositor. So it's like you're getting positive attention regarding your career, but it's attention you don't really see the need for. Sometimes I think squares to the 11th house could work like this. The attention we get might actually be very positive but for some reason we don't feel right about it, don't see the need for it, or feel a little uncomfortable with it.

posted July 07, 2014 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Lotis

Moon-Saturn is tighter (3 vs 5). And my Moon is 7 minutes away from Scorpio.

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See, that’s why I dislike synastry wheels (where I peeked at your chart), It’s really hard to decipher the exact degrees of aspects.

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Opposite Venus, trine IC. And it's retro. It's the most useless planet in my chart.

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About Jupiter. Not useless. If it trines your Ic, sextiles you Mc, this could bound well for positive support and attention from others regarding your home/career areas if life. An opposition of Jupiter and Venus along the 5th/11th Axis sounds pretty good too. Both Jupiter and Venus tend to be cheerful, happy planets, and in the opposition aspect it’s like they are facing each other to have an exchange.

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Depends on the kind of it. I'd rather not receive sexual or romantic attention.

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Well, these houses (the 5th and the 11th) have different levels to them… So how they function depends very much on context, and overall synastry.

The 11th house rules all the attention we receive from others amongst societies and groups we belong to. It’s the house of generalized popularity (or infamy if the attention we get is not so fantastic). It has a platonic level to it, as well as a romantic one, when it comes to individual synastry. ONE of the things the 11th house rules is how we like to be treated by an admirer. It also rules how we might be singled out from amongst the crowd and recognized, and how we experience feedback from our peers.

The 5th house has a platonic level as well. Falling in love is ONE of the things it’s in charge of. It also has to do with how we are inspired to express creatively, our children, and our father (the Sun/5th house is associated with the fun side of our Dad, and Saturn/10th house is the authority figure side of our Dad).

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Oh yeah. I want something that is impossible therefore I will have nothing

[QUOTE] You are attracted to those who have an interesting private world inside themselves if that makes any sense. They might space out into fantasy land on occasion, and need a little guidance keeping track of details. You might even find it cute if someone is a tad bit hopeless (as long as they're not completely hopeless! These planets are all in Capricorn after all).[QUOTE]

I think I can agree.

Thank you!

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posted July 08, 2014 05:04 AM            

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Oh come on, I think you just haven’t met the right type of person for you yet.

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I wasn't whining, just stated a fact. It's complicated.

posted July 08, 2014 05:13 AM              

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi Ceri,

This is interesting. Venus rules your Mc and it squares your 11th house ruler, as well as functioning as it's dispositor. So it's like you're getting positive attention regarding your career, but it's attention you don't really see the need for. Sometimes I think squares to the 11th house could work like this. The attention we get might actually be very positive but for some reason we don't feel right about it, don't see the need for it, or feel a little uncomfortable with it.

Have you noticed the influence of Mars in Sagittarius as co-ruler of your 11th?

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Yes, that makes sense.

Well, Mars as the co-ruler is in Sagittarius in 12th house, conjunct ASC (2 degrees) and also conjunct Neptune and NN (4-5 degrees), sextiles MC exact btw.

It is of course part of my "ASC-package", interestingly Mr Sag`s Mercury is conjunct it by about 4 degrees, and Mercury is an important one in his chart as well, ruling 3 houses, 3rd, 4th and 7th, and dispositing his Sag-stellium as well as being in mutual reception with Jupiter and squaring his Mars-Jupiter in Virgo.

It is true that whenever we talk, I feel strangely appreciated or valued, which always comes as a surprise to me.

posted July 08, 2014 05:22 AM              

I wonder if maybe the fact that Uranus is conjunct the 11th house cusp and the coruler is in SAgittarius and widely squaring Jupiter, is descriptive of this.

posted July 08, 2014 05:33 AM              

his Venus trine my 11th house ruler (Pluto)
his Sun square my 11th house ruler (Pluto)
his Pluto conjunct my 11th house ruler (but that is generational of course)

his Neptune conjunct my 11th house ruler (Mars)
his pluto sextile my 11th house ruler

his Mercury sextile my 11th house Uranus exact
his Moon possibly trine my Uranus
his Mars EXACTLY oppospite my 11th house Uranus, and sitting right on my 5th house cusp
his Saturnt rine my 11th house Uranus

I remember that on the first day we met, I had just met a girl there before, and we had been talking, and he joined us, and I was thoroughly confused why he would be focusing his attention on me, instead of her. I was just so used to be the invisible sidekick that the thought that he might actually like me did not even cross my mind.

The other Aqua is a colleague of mine, who is very attentive to me, to the point that not even I could miss that (though I certainly missed the clue, that he was possibly trying to ask me out or testing the waters a few months after we met, well I wouldn´t have probably, but the point is, I - once again- didn`t get it. lol)

his Sun exactly trines my 11th house ruler Pluto
his Moon possibly opposes it, if he has been born in the first half of the day (he doesn`t know, certainly I asked, tentatively at least)
generationally his Pluto conjuncts my 11th house ruler as well

his Venus widely sextiles my 11th house ruler (Mars) - 4 degrees

and his Venus also squares my 11th house Uranus exactly (and his Pluto squares my Venus exact, yeah tell me about it)

There are some interesting asteroid connections, as

his LUST and VALENTINE both conjunct my 11th house ruler Pluto, and additionally conjunct my MC.