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Topic: Atmakarka = What you're born to do
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 09:26 AM
Atma in Hindi means soul, karka means significator. The Atmakarka shows your soul purpose, ultimate career path, who you are and what you are meant to do in life, as well as that which will give you the ultimate happiness. The Sun is the original Atmakarka for everyone, because it's the natural signifactor of the soul of one's birth chart. But to find your unique purpose/soul lesson, you must look at what's called the Chara-Atmakarka.
The Chara Atmakarka is the planet with the highest degree in the birth chart, the nodes can be included in this too. But because the Nodes move backwards, you must subtract it's degree from 30. If the result is the highest number compared to the rest of your planets, then Rahu/Ketu would become your Chara-Atmakarka. If a retrograde planet other than the Nodes is your Chara-Atmakarka, then you don't have to subtract it's degree from 30. However do keep in mind that a retrograde Chara-Atmakarka will be the most challenging, but it's lessons and rewards would be more fruitfull as a result. Below is a list of planets and their lessons: SUN: Lessons involving the father and fatherhood. Learning to be in power, achieve fame and success without having the ego involved. MOON: Lessons involving the mother and motherhood, learning to nurture and care for others selflessly, as well as love oneself selflessly. MERCURY: Lessons involving honest communication and using ones intelligence for the higher good. VENUS: Lessons on finding harmony and balance in all types of relationships, learning to compromise, give and receive, love. MARS: Lessons on controlling anger and dealing with passion in a healthy way. Learning to take a stand and be assertive, learning to defend those who are helpless or weak. JUPITER: Lessons involving religion, spirituality, God/source. Learning to integrate the teacher/student roles into one. SATURN: Lessons regarding realism and the material. Lessons regarding practicality, patience, and discipline. Learning to find happiness in loneliness. RAHU: Lessons regarding greed, obsession and unhealthy hunger for something. Learning to be detached and not get caught up in the Maya (illusion of the material world) and develop ones spirituality/connection to Source. What's your Atmakarka?
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posted July 26, 2015 09:29 AM
My Sun (original Atmakarka) is in Leo in 2nd house, also ruling the 2nd house. It's in a mutual aspect with Saturn in the 8thMy Chara-Atmakarka (planet with the highest degree) is Jupiter in Libra in 4th, conjunct Venus & Rahu I love to indulge in and learn about various forms of art in general, as well as beautifying things, being creative and anything else Venus-related is what fills my soul with the greatest of joy
I also love to learn about occult subjects and metaphysics, which includes astrology of course! (Jupiter rules my 9th and aspects my 12th) IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:37 AM
My Moon: 23°35 Capricorn My Saturn: 23°26 GeminiSo Saturn is the vehicle how I can attain whatever the Moon wants me to achieve. in my D9 chart it`s Venus 23°31 Cancer
however Moon in D9 chart is in Leo in 10th house.
oh btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niECnV4avCM
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posted July 26, 2015 09:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: My Moon: 23°35 Capricorn My Saturn: 23°26 GeminiSo Saturn is the vehicle how I can attain whatever the Moon wants me to achieve. in my D9 chart it`s Venus 23°31 Cancer
oh btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niECnV4avCM
Thanks for video Ceri! My Amatyakarka is Mars in 12th house conjunct Moon. It makes sense because I need isolation to come up with new ideas for my art/creativity and such. Plus 12th house also rules foreign lands and I've found the most inspiration/opportunities while travelling. Btw I thought the divisional charts in Vedic don't have degrees. At least that's what I read in Kapiel's book. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:45 AM
yeah you are probably right. it is just solar fire that gives the degrees nevertheless. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:47 AM
I find it interesting how actually my Moon is sort of what I was born to do, my destiny. And I suppose with the ASC-Lord in Navamsa being the same as in the normal chart (both have Scorpio-ASC), there is a strange unity of purpose or something like that. Well Mars is also the Nakshatra lord of my Moon IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:48 AM
Checking my Chara Atmakarka (Jupiter) in the D9:Jupiter in Aquarius in 2nd house - conjunct Moon, Saturn and Mars (Mars being my Amatyakarka or planet with the second highest degree) - in mutual aspect with Sun in 8th - looking at Venus in Libra in 10th house IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:49 AM
You and me seem to have a bit in common. my Jupiter is in 4th house, too (though in Aquarius). Also my Sun is in Sagittarius in 2nd house mutually aspecting Saturn in 8th house (mercury and Venus are in Sagittarius in 2nd house as well) IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 09:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I find it interesting how actually my Moon is sort of what I was born to do, my destiny. And I suppose with the ASC-Lord in Navamsa being the same as in the normal chart (both have Scorpio-ASC), there is a strange unity of purpose or something like that. Well Mars is also the Nakshatra lord of my Moon
Wow! This is actually really powerful and known as a Vargottama. A Vargottama Lagna or planet means that you will bring out the best of that sign's qualities. http://youtu.be/owTgHWrx5xQ
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posted July 26, 2015 09:53 AM
hm my planet with the second highest degree would be Saturn of course. so in D9 chart, that Saturn is in Taurus in 7th house (actually right on the DESC), mutually aspecting Rahu/Ketu (oh the joy ), and also aspecting Venus (3rd house aspect) , and Venus is the lord of the 7th house (in both charts)
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posted July 26, 2015 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: You and me seem to have a bit in common. my Jupiter is in 4th house, too (though in Aquarius). Also my Sun is in Sagittarius in 2nd house mutually aspecting Saturn in 8th house (mercury and Venus are in Sagittarius in 2nd house as well)
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posted July 26, 2015 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptunian Venus: Wow! This is actually really powerful and known as a Vargottama. A Vargottama Lagna or planet means that you will bring out the best of that sign's qualities. http://youtu.be/owTgHWrx5xQ
Oh yes now I remember, I read about that once. Well it is interesting though, in my D1 chart Mars is pretty strong in his own chart in scorpio (and 1st house of course), but in D9 chart it is debilitated (in Libra in 12th house). BTW Rahu and Ketu also stay in their signs; Scorpio-Taurus. But well I suppose that is not such a good thing at all. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 09:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Oh yes now I remember, I read about that once. Well it is interesting though, in my D1 chart Mars is pretty strong in his own chart in scorpio (and 1st house of course), but in D9 chart it is debilitated (in Libra in 12th house).
Is your Mars sitting with or being aspected by an exhaulted planet? If so then it cancels out the debilitation. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:01 AM
no I donīt think so. I have exalted Sun in D9 (but in 6th house ), oh wait it is in Aries so it opposes Mars in Libra of course. Does that count? Well I am confused now they say it is just exalted until 10 degrees of Aries (mine is 21 degrees - which would be Moola Trikona I think), but there are no degrees in D9 chart?
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posted July 26, 2015 10:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: BTW Rahu and Ketu also stay in their signs; Scorpio-Taurus. But well I suppose that is not such a good thing at all.
Well there's positives and negatives to every planet/axis of course Maybe them being Vargottama would bring out its more positive qualities. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:05 AM
NikiVenus explained to me that having Ketu in the 7th house probably means I am extremely picky and selective with potential marriage candidates. and that is DEFINITELY true. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 10:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: no I donīt think so. I have exalted Sun in D9 (but in 6th house ), oh wait it is in Aries so it opposes Mars in Libra of course. Does that count?
Oh yes, exhalted Sun aspecting your Mars would definitely lessen its effects. It's even more positive since Mars and Sun are natural friends, so the Sun helps Mars. The 6th house isn't always considered a bad house unless it's being ruled by a functional malefic. In your case, Venus rules your D9 6th so you're fine. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:10 AM
no Venus does not rule my 6th house, but Mars, as the ASC is in Scorpio. So I guess it might be a little tug of war, Sun wanting to help, but Mars resisting the assistance and hide away in the comfy bedroom of the 12th house in Libra. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: NikiVenus explained to me that having Ketu in the 7th house probably means I am extremely picky and selective with potential marriage candidates. and that is DEFINITELY true.
Yes lol. And if you do pick one, they'll be someone with whom you share a deep spiritual connection because Ketu is all about enlightenment/higher consciousness. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:14 AM
Interesting, too, how my Moon is Atmakarka, and ruling the 9th house, and of course the D9 chart is an opening up of the 9th house to shed more light on it. So I guess my destiny or purpose seems to have a bit to do with 9th house or D9 chart even. Hmm. And Moon being in 10th house in D9 chart, certainly gives it some prominence, too. no matter if good or bad. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 10:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: no Venus does not rule my 6th house, but Mars, as the ASC is in Scorpio. So I guess it might be a little tug of war, Sun wanting to help, but Mars resisting the assistance and hide away in the comfy bedroom of the 12th house in Libra.
Ah my bad, I misread that. xD IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 10:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Interesting, too, how my Moon is Atmakarka, and ruling the 9th house, and of course the D9 chart is an opening up of the 9th house to shed more light on it. So I guess my destiny or purpose seems to have a bit to do with 9th house or D9 chart even. Hmm. And Moon being in 10th house in D9 chart, certainly gives it some prominence, too. no matter if good or bad.
Yup, it would make the D9 especially important for you in terms of your soul purpose. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptunian Venus: Yes lol. And if you do pick one, they'll be someone with whom you share a deep spiritual connection because Ketu is all about enlightenment/higher consciousness.
yes, that`s what I thought, too, when she mentioned that, though did not say it. That IF a relationship should form at all (and succeed), it would have some spiritual basis or connection. Anything less than a soulmate possibly would be not enough! The purpose of a relationship for me could never be reasons of (financial) security, or procreation, or sex, or friendship or even romance, while all of it matters, it does not matter enough. A relationship for me can also not form for giving me a feeling of security and handing over my responsibilities. Even if I was in a marriage or committed relationship, I suppose I couldn`t hand over these things. You know it reminds me of the first time I went to London. I was scared as crap, because of the new step that meant for me. But I calmed my nerves, cause I knew my friend and my brother would be with me, so they would do all the talking (I was scared speaking English even), and some other things. they were a bit of a security net. The universe took care to take that security net away from under my feet, by making them both having to cancel the trip! And to make matters worse, when I arrived there in the hotel, there were troubls with my credit card, and I was very much on my own having to solve the issues (with the hotelowner) of course and some more things like that happened. it just, it feels like I simply do not have the luxury to depend on others to resolve issues for me. That is not what I am here to do. Rahu in 1st house takes its toll I suppose. Even if I was in a relationship, I guess I would still be very much my own person, having to be very independent, possibly my husband would be away for much of the time (which actually is the only way some marriage for me could work, I believe; someone who is around me all the time? That is a nightmare! no matter how much I`d love that person) IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 26, 2015 10:22 AM
I read that the D9 starts to activate itself after the age of 25. LOL my planet with the second highest degree (Mars) is looking at Rahu in the 5th in my D9
So I guess that means I'll be fame hungry in the future since Rahu = fame and the 5th house = media ??? IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2015 10:29 AM
You forget the other implication of 5th house. And Rahu is not just fame, but hunger itself. And well I am WAY after my 25th birthday. lol I wonder though. My personality or expression of my personality has changed so much since a few years, and I kinda wonder if that might have been the D9 chart kicking in?
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