posted August 01, 2020 12:46 PM
I had seen those words/terms before,
and wanted to know what these were too.
Dug into some research.MoonMystic, this vedic divisional chart system may answer some of your questions discussed in other LL forums, about DNA tribes.
Comes out of the Hellenistic,
and Babylonian tradition of astrology
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* Dodecatemoria - Dwadasamsa D12 Chart
Astrology Online Calculator
- http://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/dodecatemoria-dwadasamsa-chart-astrology-online-ca lculator
* CHECK Astrodienst..
I thought I saw this offered in their Chart choice? Is in same area as selection of Synastry, Progressed, Relocation charts.
Scroll down to near-end.
Aug4,2020 Note-- I have NO idea of what's going on with the Astrodienst round chart.
No clue! LOL .. I'm skipping it.
* Rok Koritnik ...
This provides a "picture" of what is behind D12.
{scroll down the article}
- http://rokkoritnikastrologer.com/the-secret-meetin g-of-east-and-west-understanding-divisional-and-or-harmonic-charts-part-6/
* Astrologyweekly
Has more Links..
Link to Alice Portman for Dwads.
- http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=823388
* Wikipedia Link
Chart wheel
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecatemoria
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LECTURE video notes
Understanding D12 Dwadashamsha chart in Vedic Astrology
with KRS and Michael Reed, 2016oct27
[1:15:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0al7HkwlM8&
D12 = the karma coded into the DNA of the individual
Has to do with Parents.
Also the Siblings.
.. H3 for the Idea of how the individual interacts with those outside self.
The foundation of 'how' you're going to approach your life,
as passed-down through ancestral karma for 7 generations. 
{{instinctual ... fleshly}}
eg. 'alcoholism' with father, and grandfather lineage?
YOU break the cycle of that.
.. your 6th House is what you apply TO break the karma.
Most important planets are rahu and ketu.
Ketu... where you're coming-from in foundation of ancestral center.
Rahu... is what 'you'-yourself are doing.
If you have a planet conjunct rahu or ketu,
look at the planet in Dwadashamsha.
Its your past life patterns,
where you come from.
Dwadashamsha is 'what you are coded with'.
Each Sign,
Contains the full 12 zodiac-signs WITHIN that one sign.
e.g.
-- Aries Sign.
First sign is Aries, then Taurus, Gemini, etc.
-- Taurus Sign.
First sign is TAURUS, then Gemini, then Cancer, etc
Varga charts {Divisional}
Important Houses--
* "Critical Houses" are as follows:
H12 - completion. the point in/[of] the Past, just-before the moment you were born.
the final desire that we let go of.
Ancestors .. e.g. Saturn in 12th.
= Difficulties with ancestor path,
born without 'feeling' nourished and secure.
H9 - is the direct result of H12.
"Parental influence in-general."
this IS the ultimate result OF influence of the parents.. handed down through *their* ancestors
H6 - is the DEBT we 'owe' to our ancestors.
for them having given us birth.
how the individual(you) is sorting out the ancestral karma.
H3 - is the siblings.
relates to those people we are born in association with to resolve karma
Navamsa D9 charts have a connection to Dwadashamsha D12.
KETU - for deeper 'understanding' of it
RAHU - is how you 'apply' yourself to it
ASC - H1 - is YOU at-present-time, with the ancestral karma IN you.
> e.g. Dwadashamsha can even 'show' you your career {notes KRS} ..
for example, you have a person who became an actor, but Dwadashamsha chart indicates is to become a lawyer?
?10L shows you .. someone who does career of what 'the father' wanted
H2 - The Resources that the individual has in that varga chart.
Does the child have necessary resources passed to them to fulfill their needs.
What the individual "has"..
also, spiritual wealth and Values.
H3 - How we associate with people.
Taking those H2 resources, and acting with them.
The wealth produced .. from the wealth.
H4 - The Mother.
Did you come from secure and stable household in order to develop into a 5th house child?
H5 - The childhood itself.
The individual as a child.
Shows capacity to deal with problems.
D6 - How they from (H5) apply what is given them.
D7 - What was the relationship with father and mother like?
Also, the father and mother's relationship to the grandparents.
Relat w f and m -- to the gp and mother;
and so on.
The "formative" information through-which we learn "relationships".
D8 - How we 'apply' selves to dealing with our karma.
Transformation.
What did the parents teach in terms of dealing with "hardship"?
.. What Values were taught?
... e.g. Did they get taught to 'go for the throat'?
or {compassionate}, taught to "look at what others have gone through?", and to see own hardship as not-as-bad as what they see others going through..
How to deal with others.
Parents teach us "how to approach life."
KRS puts forth idea that H8 involves occult mysticism - the possible rebirth AS one of the ancestors?
Inheritance.. from the death of an ancestor
D9 - The general Parental Influence {see above}
D10 - What The Father Gave, as an individual.
Also, The Status of family lineage 10 and 12.
D11 - Elder sibs; Aspirations and goals that the ancestors had?
.. Had their dreams fallen flat?
D12 - The Ancestors themselves.
How are we dealing with our Past?
.. 6th and 1st house strength, will affect H12.
e.g.
strong 6th .. in their family, they could have "FELT" adopted. Looking at their ancestor and saying "look at all these problems! Why?"
They are not in as much debt to ancestors.
12th and 8th .. e.g. alcoholic ancestors?
the 6th .. "How" are you applying self to that issue? Ability can overcome those problems.
DEITIES... <soundmark 28: +>
3 5 9 ..
7 6 10
4 12 8
1 5 9
* Ganesa .. to remove obstacles
(similar 1 5 9 head cut off {rahu})
Ganesa can be the creator of obstacles too, if not appeased. *smile*
New Beginnings -- that come based-on the creative power that our ancestor had.
The Teachings they passed down and gave us in 'how to deal with new beginnings'.
.. In good dignity? good ways of dealing
.. If it's a beat-up planet, cripples the coping device. Their parents never taught them. Things that the ancestor DIDN'T have to pass-along.
.. In good dignity? They didn't have, but we-ourselves DO HAVE it.
e.g. actor v lawyer career
How the ancestors taught us... suggestion
.. Ancestor said IF you want to be an actor, then here's how to do it.
.. In bad dignity = new things, which you would 'not' want to have-- like, getting into massive debt (for career). No coping knowledge for it.
2 6 10 = The Ashwins
The Divine Healers
Give all the 'good things' that help MAINTAIN the quality of our life in general.
The things they have, where we are also taken care of. What is handed down to us, and we maintain.
.. bad = What we need help with, but we don't get it. No understanding of 'how to' cope with it.
3 7 11 = Yama
Desires .. the Kama houses
important thing to know .. how to lust?
dharma, and Kama .. The Lord with the "desire" to Create. {good.. }
e.g. Person says they want to 'go to the Himalayas? -- OR, are they desiring to be world-famous? -- What is reasonable?
Yama is the restraint and discipline that we need, and our ancestors gave us.
e.g. money, and ability to plan the trip {to Himalayas}..
The things your ancestors were 'finishing', which the individual can be letting go of.
These having been accomplished.. because of the discipline that was handed down to us.
Things that terminate in a bad manner because we didn't have discipline.
malefics-- 7L in H7 .. murta, mars rahu
.. relationship is more prone to come to an end in difficult manner, eg extramarital affairs.
correction note that ----------
we are NOT looking at the houses
just the 'parts' of the sign
ganesa ashwin yama
are 2 d 30 mins EACH
3 7 11 .. heart of one individual?
1 of aries is aries
1 of taurus is taur
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<See Wikipedia chart for graphic>
but in 7th house too? .. then.. extra-marital affairs, from not being disciplined. ..
DIVISIONS.. software.
Q: Is there a way to know through 'sight' than by performing math calculations?
A: Kala software program will show it.
. . .
<vaultoftheheavens>
4 8 12 = The Hiya
which are the horse head incarnation of vishu .. = fast thinking.
The knowledge and understanding that the ancestors gave us.
The 'culmination' of that info... of what we LEARNED.
Inherited Knowledge that is productive or not-productive.
4 8 12 moksha
..pada.. KRS suggests to look at padas, as deity reps.
aries div 12 parts
1 5 9 of aries = ganesha dwadasham
--- example charts. ---
past sm 48:00
END OF my quick notes as I listened to the vid.
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please let me know, and I'll edit a correction. Thanks!
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