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Topic: Early marriage, late marriage, no marriage, 2nd marriage...how do you check??
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Hikaru29
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posted February 04, 2021 10:30 PM
  
I’ve been reading up on the various indicators but I don’t seem to find any accuracy. E.g. I supposedly have indicators of marriage and likely an early one but I’m in my 40s and still not married. I also read that 7H/7L afflicted by malefics, 7L-8L association result in delayed marriage but I see these people getting married with no issues, some even got an early marriage. I also see people with no divorce indicators but they divorced, and etc etc... So I’m curious to know what have been your research so far? What are the strong indicators of:
- Promise of marriage
- Early marriage
- Late marriage
- No marriage
- Divorce & remarriage I know we also have to check dashas and transits but here I’m just talking about what’s promised in a birth chart. IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted February 05, 2021 12:11 AM
Farfaraway has a website with a calculator. Also types out a mini-reading.Identify your spouse in your birth chart - a DIY guide
(Farfaraway, May 2 2019)
[3:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJcIwA-77fs \\ * youtube channel sight =
- http://www.youtube.com/c/Farfarawaydotco/videos * website =
- http://www.farfaraway.co/ Follow instructions to find mini-reading .. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 05, 2021 12:17 AM
Thanks, mirage. I’ve seen these videos. But here I’m not trying to find my spouse type, but rather how to see if marriage is even promised, early or late, and are there signs of divorce & remarriage. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 05, 2021 01:50 AM
If tithi lord is same as 7L — marriage is promised.If the Pada Lord of the 11th Nakshatra away from Moon is aspected by 7L — marriage is promised. If yes, to guess “when” see Profection Year of Bhava where the Pada Lord of this 11thNakshatra is placed I’ll include YouTube lectures links, later when I find them Sanjay Rath- http://youtu.be/JBMpWNBbCv4 Also, marriage partners have mutual TithiLord—9H/9L planets. The Houses before and after the UL, TithiLord, and Venus will show ease and difficulty of getting married then staying married Visti Larson- How exactly Venus affects relationships Part 1 http://youtu.be/xT_q8qX1nwk Sanjay Rath- on Marriage & 12H http://youtu.be/9FW0U0dAiAo 12th House & Marriage http://vijayajyoti.com/12th-house-and-marriage/ Anahita Rao- Late Marriage in Astrology: Delay Factors http://youtu.be/UFRpygM-Wcw IP: Logged |
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posted February 05, 2021 07:50 PM
dasha & antardasha of the 7th lord is the most important thing when it comes to the timing of possible marriage & relationshipsIP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 07, 2021 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by vansio:
If tithi lord is same as 7L — marriage is promised.If the Pada Lord of the 11th Nakshatra away from Moon is aspected by 7L — marriage is promised. If yes, to guess “when” see Profection Year of Bhava where the Pada Lord of this 11thNakshatra is placed I’ll include YouTube lectures links, later when I find them Sanjay Rath- http://youtu.be/JBMpWNBbCv4 Also, marriage partners have mutual TithiLord—9H/9L planets. The Houses before and after the UL, TithiLord, and Venus will show ease and difficulty of getting married then staying married Visti Larson- How exactly Venus affects relationships Part 1 http://youtu.be/xT_q8qX1nwk Sanjay Rath- on Marriage & 12H http://youtu.be/9FW0U0dAiAo 12th House & Marriage http://vijayajyoti.com/12th-house-and-marriage/ Anahita Rao- Late Marriage in Astrology: Delay Factors http://youtu.be/UFRpygM-Wcw
Thanks, vansio! I just watched the video on Tithi Lord which is very interesting. My Tithi Lord is Mercury in 12H (which means 6th from 7H). Is this considered good Since Mercury is strong in 3rd and 6th? I checked several couples’ charts but didn’t get a lot of matches between their TithiLord—9H/9L. Some are matched only one way. What’s your observation? On to the 2nd video now... IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 08, 2021 02:40 AM
Just completed Visti’s videos on Venus. Wow, so much info... I’m having a hard time digesting. Probably need to watch it again. So Venus conjunct/combust Sun is actually a good thing(?) because I always read that Sun burns Venus causing relationships to be “burned away”. I’ve Venus combust Sun in Leo in my Navamsa. Venus also rules my Navamsa 7H. I also have Moon mutually aspecting Venus in D1. KRS described this aspect negatively but Visti says it’s good. 🤔 IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 08, 2021 04:01 AM
What I think Visti means is there are remedial measures (i.e. mantras) with Venus (planet of devotion) in relationship to Sun, Jupiter or their signs (since Sun is Atma of D1 and Venus is Atma of D9)Venus is Lakshmi. Sun personified in feminine as Parvati and Jupiter as Saraswati I have a Jupiter-based Venus across D1 (Pisces) to D9 (12H Sag) and hearing of this saraswati principle was like an oh-duh lightbulb ::What’s your observation? on tithi::
I haven’t checked enough since I have very few exact-birthtimes at hand and even fewer married friends. However, I checked the old-flame that came to visit me bc I have his. His 9L is Moon and the gf he married for “immigration reasons” is born with Moon tithi. What Sanjay Rath says about the tithi lord partnership/s is that these marriages are karmic, pre-destined
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Hikaru29
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posted February 09, 2021 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by vansio:
::What’s your observation? on tithi::
I haven’t checked enough since I have very few exact-birthtimes at hand and even fewer married friends. However, I checked the old-flame that came to visit me bc I have his. His 9L is Moon and the gf he married for “immigration reasons” is born with Moon tithi. What Sanjay Rath says about the tithi lord partnership/s is that these marriages are karmic, pre-destined
Wouldn’t karma be shown both ways? My guy has Sun/Mercury/Saturn and my Tithi Lord is Mercury, but he’s not matching mine. I saw another couple’s chart which is also matched one way only. 🤔 Does this mean the TithiLord person is bringing karmic lessons to the house person? IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 09, 2021 05:34 AM
Note: I don’t have his gf/wife’s birth time to cross-check. maybe study your 9L Saturn for deeper clues, like it’s own sign or pada lord, even aspects to other planets going-both-ways as necessity for karma in general could be debated, though if that karma is fundamentally marriage-based, I’d assume yes, meaning, it’s shared. The 9H/L is Dharma, so at the very least, for one person there’s karma at stake. Condition of that planet might describe the circumstances towards that a/dharma, though only for the individual IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 09, 2021 06:09 AM
My 9H is empty. 9L Saturn is in Punarvasu (ruled by Jupiter). Saturn is forming 10th aspect on Jupiter but no planets aspect Saturn. My guy’s Tithi Lord is Mars. There are some other couples in my record with no matches either way. Anyway I’m not sure if we’re supposed to cut this deep...it’s like forcing a match, unless we assume not all marriages are karmic. Not every couple’s 9H and Tithi Lord will match. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 09, 2021 07:15 AM
Technically, a marriage being “promised” (long ones) in the natal chart usually means the person has a marriage-karma. Only these people would use this system, after the fact. So trying to apply it to anyone wouldn’t work because not everyone has what’s known as a “dharma marriage”, from past life. 9H.I’m born on a Thursday (Jupiter), my tithi is Jupiter, my 7th lord is Jupiter, Jupiter aspects the 11th-nakshatra-lord from my Moon (31st year, during a Venus subDasha), Jupiter is exalted in D7 and D9, and my Venus is Jupiter-ruled in D1 and D9. Suffice to say, I have a marriage karma, which is funny because I’m not one to ‘date’. Probably because my soul knows “who”. My ex, who I met during my Jupiter subDasha, the only person I’ve been in a commitment with (let alone dated—I don’t do “boyfriends”), was a Saturn tithi (my 9L), and Venus rules his 9H. My Jupiter tithi mutual-aspect Venus in natal. He doesn’t have a marriage-karma, quite the opposite with debilitated Venus, but if hypothetically he did, she would have to be a Venus, Moon, or Mercury tithi. :: Anyway I’m not sure if we’re supposed to cut this deep...::
Right. It would be obvious. I’m 28 now, so gives me some peace of mind (confirmation) to focus on other things than dating/messing around. 2029 my Jupiter Major Dasha period begins. The tithi of my future husband will be Saturn, Moon, Sun or Mercury.
(Don't quote this post. Sharing with you personal info for learning sake.)
The old-flame I mentioned earlier: he is Venus tithi with Venus 7Lord, so also promised, hence the obvious connection of his 9L Moon - her Moon Tithi in his marriage. He met her in his Venus subDasha. His partner’s tithi options would be Moon, Sun, Mercury, which are conjunct in his chart.
So the side with a “marriage-promise”, based my own and this guy’s commitments, this system is fairly explicit. I had a Saturn-tithi ex (not married), and he’s married to a Moon-tithi woman—likely making her a Virgo, Sagittarius or Aquarius Lagna if I was to match, but it’s not clear to me if it has to go both ways with those who are promised.
Update: It seems so. Barack Obama: Tithi Lord - Moon, 7th Lord - Moon (promised), 9th Lord - Mercury --- Michelle Obama: Tithi Lord - Mercury, 7th Lord - Jupiter, 9th Lord - Venus (conjunct Moon)
For multiple marriages, the dharma marriage house system changes in succession.
1st Marriage from 9H.
2nd Marriage from 10H.
3rd Marriage from 11H.
4th Marriage from 12H.
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Hikaru29
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posted February 09, 2021 09:40 AM
Marriage is also promised in my chart, so say several professional astrologers, but strangely I’ve never even come close to it. I’m born on Tuesday (Mars), same as my 7L Mars. An astrologer told me my marriage will happen unexpectedly. Sometimes I think my partner may have gotten lost somewhere and found himself another gal...is this possible?My guy’s Tithi Lord (Mars) matches my 7L but not my 9L (gosh, I only have Saturn to choose from). Perhaps he isn’t my destiny(?) although an astrologer insisted that he is. 🤷🏻♀️ Sometimes I feel confused with all these conflicting info... Oh, but I noticed I always start a serious rs during Saturn Antardasha (both he and my ex). This explains... What do you mean by 11th-nakshatra-lord from my Moon... ?
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vansio
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posted February 09, 2021 05:19 PM
Timestamps [29:00], [37:08], [1:01:25], [1:19:05] & [1:36:34] http://youtu.be/JBMpWNBbCv4 :: What do you mean by 11th-nakshatra-lord from my Moon... ?:: 
Count eleven nakshatras from your Moon. See which planet glyph (the ruler is) of that 11th Nakshatra. See if the planet has an aspect with your 7L. If yes, find this 11th-Nakshatra ruler in your chart and check which house for profection year. Uttara Ashada Moon. 11th Naskshatras away is Rohini, ruled by Moon. My 7L Jupiter aspects Moon in my chart. (Moon happens to also be my DK) Moon is in 8H. 8H is 31st year in profection, which coincides with my Rahu-Venus dasha (from July 2023-July2026). Also that year, transit Rahu conjuncts my Venus, during it’s antardasha.  11th Nakshatras away from Jyeshtha is Ashwini: Ketu. Does Ketu have an aspect with your 7L? [ My Rahu is in Jyeshtha  ] Could your current beau be your “second marriage”? (modern times, did you cohabitate with your ex?) Are there any planets in your 10H? «Rahu/Moon in 7H Scorpio and Ketu/Venus in 1H Taurus. Rahu ruler (Mars) is in Aquarius 10H» !! So perhaps! there you go: 10H-Mars is his tithi Mars Mars aspects 4th from his position, onto Ketu. Find the age from the 1H in Profection Chart, maybe it coincides with when you met him? If not, then maybe an age when you will get officially married. I’ve been trying to figure out by Vedic-standards if I’m technically onto my second marriage (after my ex). If so... my second husband has a tithi Venus or Jupiter 🤔 old flame? 😅 Only issue would be, his 9/10/11L are each that Moon-Sun-Mercury conjunction (empty houses). He was with his first long term girlfriend for nine years, married this second serious relationship [on whim] last year, 11L would be Mercury (not me). Hypothetically for our marriage promises to work on each other, I’d have to be his 6th “marriage”. He shares a birthday with Elizabeth Taylor—could happen. 😂 Though, because of my age, think I’ve yet to have my first, still on time. My Jupiter and Venus are both in a mutable signs, so known as having two marriages—maybe we once-and-for-all-get-together in retirement. 6 is a nice number. All this talk of marriage, I’m already getting cold feet. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 10, 2021 09:51 AM
Thanks for walking me through but tbh I’m still a bit confused 😅 so I apologise if I get anything wrong.Ketu doesn’t aspect my 7L Mars. It aspects my 7H from 1H though. Counted? Haha.. And yes, Mars tithi matches my 7L! 😆 I never lived with my ex although we were together quite number of years. Visti Larsen in one of his videos said he considered long-term relationships as marriage. He was addressing people who stay in relationships but not get married. How many years do we have to clock is debatable. I personally consider the length of relationship more significant than their living arrangements for the simple reason that some people habitually live with all their romantic partners. 😛 So when I met my guy, I was 43yo (8H?) having Moon-Saturn dasha. Two astrologers predicted I would get married during Moon-Venus (that’s end 2022-beginning 2023). I would be 47yo (12H). That’s also when I’ll be having my Jupiter return and tRahu will be on my Sun. Btw which app do you use to check Dasha? I’ve been using the chart from KRS’ report but I’m also now using AstroSage and the dashas periods in both are off by a few months, so I’m not sure which is correct. [ My Rahu is in Jyestha 🙂]
Your Rahu, my Moon and my guy's ASC and all conjunct. 😅 Lol, 6th marriage! 😂 I hope you find your Mr Right soon and don’t wait to be his 6th. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 10, 2021 10:00 AM
I use Cosmic Insights, but it only allows one free profile at a time so edit the birthday input to see various charts haha no waiting. Holding out for Mr. exalted Jupiter  Your Mars aspects the Ketu, that counts. I’ll have to find the original video where this technique was described. IP: Logged |
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posted February 10, 2021 10:18 AM
Hey!  Just dropping by...
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If you have an extra $25 and free time on Feb 20,
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Hikaru29
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posted February 10, 2021 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by vansio:
Your Mars aspects the Ketu, that counts. I’ll have to find the original video where this technique was described.
Oh ok, I was looking at it one-way.😛 So does this mean marriage is likely to happen during those ages listed in 1H? If it happens in early 2023, I’ll be 48 (1H). IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 10, 2021 11:21 AM
Thanks, mirage! That seems interesting. I may sign up for the download. 🙂IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 14, 2021 04:04 AM
How is the Upada Lagna to D1 match with your lover?IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted February 14, 2021 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by vansio:
How is the Upada Lagna to D1 match with your lover?
How is this supposed to match? I thought UL describes our married life? Oh, but just so happens his 2nd UL is also his 2nd 9th house so my tithi lord Mercury matches both. He has Sun/Mercury/Saturn in that house. IP: Logged |
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