posted January 11, 2005 07:25 AM            

just like sade sati is with respect to the moon in indian astrology is it with respect to the sun in western astro?

sade sati literaly means seven and a half.

posted January 13, 2005 09:30 AM            

by Chakrapani Ullal

When Saturn is transiting through the 12th, 1st, and 2nd house from the natal moon, this is termed Sade-sati. “Sade-sati” literally means 7 ½ years, which means that Saturn naturally takes 2 ½ years in its transit from one house to another house. This transit is considered particularly important in Vedic Astrology because this transit is supposed to indicate difficult results either to the native or the native’s close relatives. When people are not properly informed about its malefic influences, they are likely to misunderstand the magnitude of the real experience.

We have included a link to a chart of today’s date for your curiosity. You can see that Saturn is currently transiting Taurus. If you have a copy of your chart, you can look and see if you yourself are experiencing Sade-sati. If your natal moon is located in Aries, Taurus or Gemini, you are most definitely in Sade-sati.

Generally, Saturn brings increased hardship and suffering around the 30th year, around the 60th year, and then again around the 90th year if the native is still alive. This does not mean that Sade-sati is taking place on your 30th year. It can begin anytime before your 30th year, and then repeats itself every 30 years thereafter. With regard to the Sade-sati transit in particular, one can expect to experience it about two or three times within one’s lifetime. In rare cases, a person may undergo up to 4 Sade-sati cycles in their lifetime. First cycle Sade-sati generally affects close relatives more than the native. The 2nd cycle influences the domestic front as well as the business front, and the 3rd cycle affects children, family, health, and physical suffering or may even indicate the death of the native. 4th cycle Sade-sati brings liberation from either the body or the soul or, possibly, both.

It should be noted that this dreaded influence does not necessarily conclude when Saturn exits the 2nd house from the natal moon. When Saturn passes through the 8th house from the natal moon, it is called Astham Sani (translated 8th Saturn). This 8th house transit is considered equally negative like the Sade-sati transit. As it is known, the 8th house is a malefic house and any malefic planet transiting this house either from the moon or from the rising sign, is bound to bring malefic results (unless the native is passing through a good dasha/Bhukti). The 8th house transit indicates worry, suffering, and misery for the native.

Similarly, when Saturn passes through the 4th house from the birth moon, it is supposed to give negative results. This position of Saturn is called Ardha Sade-sati (Half-Sade-sati). Some people consider the transit of Saturn from the 5th house of the natal moon as negative because it affects the quality of one’s judgment. However, it is always important to keep in mind, when judging the effects of a particular transit, that planetary transits are always subordinate in influence to birth chart indications as well as to the influences of the currently operating Dasa and Bhukti cycles.

Sade-sati’s notorious reputation derives from the fact that the Moon rules the mind and the emotions while Saturn rules suffering; therefore, an individual can expect an increase in emotional and mental duress during this transit.

Sade-sati House Indications
Specific house indications of Sade-sati are as follows:

· Saturn, when transiting 12th house from the Moon indicates loss of prestige and honor, aimless travel, lack of comfort in living, arguments, and poverty.

· Saturn in the 1st house where the natal Moon resides indicates character assassination (Bill Clinton), mental afflictions, and sorrows.

· In the 2nd house from the natal Moon, the native’s mind becomes unsound, innumerable worries accumulate, there is a general failure to achieve good results, the native experiences ill health, and misunderstandings arise. There is also a considerable amount of financial stress.

However, it is wise to remember that all people having Sade-sati will not necessarily experience the same or even similar results. Many people even experience exceptionally positive results in the areas of success, finances, property, or increased status during this evil transit (i.e. Bill Clinton, Indira Gandhi). The nature of results has to do with Saturn’s relationship to the rising sign, the Moon sign, and the indications of Saturn’s influence for a particular rising sign.

Saturn rules Capricorn and Aquarius. It is also the yogakaraka (that planet which has the power and energy to bring growth, progress, prosperity, good luck and good fortune) for Taurus and Libra rising signs. When Sade-sati occurs for Taurus, Libra, Capricorn, and Aquarius moon signs as well, the Sade-sati may not give them as much negative results. Its evil influence is reduced to a great degree in these circumstances. This is because Saturn rules Capricorn and Aquarius and Libra and Taurus are ruled by Venus; who is a friend of Saturn. Natives with Capricorn or Aquarius Lagnas or with their Sun in Taurus or Libra may experience hardship during Sade-sati, but may emerge unharmed because of a reduction in its usual evil influence.

8 Division Approach to Sade-sati

We can summarize the results of the ongoing Sade-sati. This method used to profile Sade-sati results, divides the 7-½ year transit period of 2700 days into 8 parts. Each division carries its own particular indications as follows:

# Of days physical influence results

100 mouth loss

400 right arm victory

600 feet foreign travel

500 belly gains

400 left arm sorrow

300 head elevation to position

200 eyes happiness

200 rectum sorrow

We know that each sign of the zodiac relates to a particular part of the human body. The body part affected during Sade-sati is determined according to the relative strengths of the Rising sign and the Moon sign. Whichever influence is stronger indicates which body part will be most sensitive to disease or disorder during Saturn’s transit.

Examples

If Aries (representing the head) is the ascendant or the Moon sign itself, then Saturn’s transit through the Moon sign indicates vulnerability for the head and troubles therein. Bad judgment can also be a result of this transit.

If the rising sign is Taurus (representing the throat), then swellings or afflictions to the throat are indicated.

Suppose the birth chart Moon is in Taurus and Saturn is in the 4th house from the natal moon. If Saturn then transits through this 4th house, which is in itself a very difficult transit, the native may suffer from chest pains, hardening of the arteries, etc. If Saturn transits through the 5th house, the native will primarily experience mental suffering due to the suffering of his children’s health and his digestive system will become very sensitive possibly creating constipation, hemorrhoids, etc. Since Saturn acts as a functional benefic for Taurus these conditions may not bring permanent harm. Rather, the native will experience a period of temporary suffering.

If Libra is the ascendant, and the Moon is in Virgo, the Sade-sati years will bring financial stress, emotional issues with family, and disputes. However, since Saturn happens to be a yogakaraka, then the troubles would be over without too much suffering. Whenever Saturn becomes a benefic planet or yogakaraka, then the troubles can be overcome or minimized.

As we can make out, many considerations have to be taken into account when analyzing the influence of the Sade-sati as well as the transit of Saturn. In the final analysis, Sade-sati can be burdensome and frustrating, or it can uplift the native and bring success with responsibility. Overall, with persistent effort, Saturn’s transit can raise the consciousness and make one more spiritual than before the Sade-sati began. Sade-sati’s significance is its ability to transform a person’s spiritual awareness. On the surface, the struggles are immense, but only as a purifying catalyst for further growth.

posted January 14, 2005 04:17 AM              

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