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Topic: Rahu in Vedic is malefic?
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LuckyLeo
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posted March 30, 2023 03:56 PM
  
Hello  Is it correct that in Vedic astrology rahu/north node is known to be a malefic influence? I know it is a very powerful point. Western astrology makes it sound like a magical point of soul growth but then I hear it is of malefic influence so I’m a bit confused. I know the two systems are quite different. Trying to understand! IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted March 31, 2023 06:36 AM
both are malefic - rahu/north node and ketu/south node...One gives illusions regarding material gain and the other takes away any material stuff, which is needed even for surviving, to concentrate on illusions about spirituality. Western is a rose painted view on the nodes because it's like a social move to loosing your path. Especially because they are related to karma, gaining and loosing, gaining and loosing, keeping someone in a loop, even the gaining is going to be lost in the RAHU period or when it is activated, because it's not sustainable, it wasn't earned in a Saturn way. They are connected to the Moon, which is the soul along with the Sun, but the Moon holds all the karma, the Sun is only what you remember of it. Anyone who experienced a rahu period or subperiod, would know how true this is... Still, you could have insights about the material world, or the spiritual world, but it's still not the path. Saturn would be a conterpart of Rahu, similar in a way, but Saturn is real, Rahu it isn't. Jupiter would be for Ketu, but Jupiter is from God, ketu is like having extreme views on spirituality. Hence, they're named shadow planets, they don't have a body, they're smoke and mirrors, we know they exist only because they are involved in eclipses. IP: Logged |
Clementine
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posted April 01, 2023 04:37 AM
I think it depends on which house they are. Apparently 10th and 11th are the best houses for Rahu to be. My ex had his life changed for much better during his Rahh Mahadasha and his Rahu is in his 10th house. During it's dasha he had all his wishes fulfilled. IP: Logged |
Clementine
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posted April 01, 2023 04:42 AM
But I also heard the opposite, my sister for example has her Rahu mahadasha on her teen years. She went through a severe depression, she wouldn't leave her room for nothing. The room would be all closed including windows and curtains. She was so pale that my mum started to be really concerned. She described it as a awful experience.
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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
Hello Is it correct that in Vedic astrology rahu/north node is known to be a malefic influence? I know it is a very powerful point. Western astrology makes it sound like a magical point of soul growth but then I hear it is of malefic influence so I’m a bit confused. I know the two systems are quite different. Trying to understand!
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Clementine
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posted April 01, 2023 04:44 AM
I think it depends on which house they are. Apparently 10th and 11th are the best houses for Rahu to be. My ex had his life changed for much better during his Rahh Mahadasha and his Rahu is in his 10th house. During it's dasha he had all his wishes fulfilled. IP: Logged |
Clementine
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posted April 01, 2023 04:44 AM
But I also heard the opposite, my sister for example has her Rahu mahadasha on her teen years. She went through a severe depression, she wouldn't leave her room for nothing. The room would be all closed including windows and curtains. She was so pale that my mum started to be really concerned. She described it as a awful experience.
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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
Hello Is it correct that in Vedic astrology rahu/north node is known to be a malefic influence? I know it is a very powerful point. Western astrology makes it sound like a magical point of soul growth but then I hear it is of malefic influence so I’m a bit confused. I know the two systems are quite different. Trying to understand!
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Clementine
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posted April 01, 2023 07:01 AM
But I also heard the opposite, my sister for example has her Rahu mahadasha on her teen years. She went through a severe depression, she wouldn't leave her room for nothing. The room would be all closed including windows and curtains. She was so pale that my mum started to be really concerned. She described it as a awful experience.
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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
Hello Is it correct that in Vedic astrology rahu/north node is known to be a malefic influence? I know it is a very powerful point. Western astrology makes it sound like a magical point of soul growth but then I hear it is of malefic influence so I’m a bit confused. I know the two systems are quite different. Trying to understand!
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vansio
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posted April 01, 2023 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Clementine:
Apparently 10th and 11th are the best houses for Rahu to be.
this is incorrect. Rahu has digbala in the 7th House; additionally, Ketu is marana karaka sthana in the 4th House. Rahu’s MKS is the 9th House. IP: Logged |
LuckyLeo
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posted April 02, 2023 04:33 PM
Mee_Chryssa thank you, interesting about rahu/ketu and illusions. I haven’t heard this before. So it gives illusions to the person, like someone believes they achieved something but it turns to dust? Something that they thought they were obtaining but they don’t get it in the end? Or it was based on lies? I did some googling and it seems like it brings a veil over someone’s eyes so they can’t see properly. This is very interesting to view it in this way because it’s SO different from the western astrology view. I wonder if this happens when someone touches your rahu in synastry, do they make you obsessed but it is all illusions?Clementine, thanks for the insight. Can I ask how does one calculate when their rahu mahadasha is? Sorry for what is probably such a basic question but I am very new to Vedic. I tried googling this but can’t find it. Vansio, thank you for the information I will have to look up what those terms mean IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted April 03, 2023 12:20 PM
hey, it's not like you think you achieved something, it's like thinking that something it's good, but turns out it's a lost path. You might be in places where you think you are safe, but you're not. Rahu is about tricks, cheating, taking the short path. It's like taking a path, but it's not the right one. Everytime when I go to Rahu antardasha, I get obsessed about something or huge anxiety and fear, and it gets me out of the house, and I get to weird places. but it's also because I went through Rahu Dasha of 18 years and I know what's there. I was close to lose my life there, but I don't want to scare you. There were a lot of bad things around and it had its peak in Rahu/Moon dasha that i read somewhere that brings tons of illusions which is very true with what I experienced at that time. Rahu Capricorn 6th house, in close trine to Moon and aspects 10th and 2nd from there. And supposely, it's good to have it there, in an earth sign. I don't even have some conjunctions with them or something strong. In synastry, with the Moon creates obsessions. I don't really know on which part. I was a bit obsessed with someone with his North Node in Taurus, but he also had some stellium in Scorpio, so I don't know if it was obsession or just a deep understanding since I'm very compatible with them. But I'll go with the later. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted April 03, 2023 12:36 PM
You can calculate it on astro-seek.com... they have the tropical zodiac too.The downfall is that it only calculates the Dasha and antardasha. You can't see further in, like the subperiods and sub-subperiods. For this, I have an app in the phone. Is called Dasha calculator and I entered the date and time of birth of where the Moon was when I was born. I use the tropical zodiac because it doesn't fit with the events that happened in my life with the sidereal. IP: Logged |
LuckyLeo
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posted April 14, 2023 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Rahu is about tricks, cheating, taking the short path. It's like taking a path, but it's not the right one.
Thanks mee_chryssa . So rahu is where people go down the wrong path. Sounds like people will do anything to obtain the things of their rahu and this desperate desire can lead to abandoning morals? And rahu is insatiable so whatever is done in pursuit of these rahu things is never enough to make the person satisfied? IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted April 24, 2023 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
Thanks mee_chryssa . So rahu is where people go down the wrong path. Sounds like people will do anything to obtain the things of their rahu and this desperate desire can lead to abandoning morals? And rahu is insatiable so whatever is done in pursuit of these rahu things is never enough to make the person satisfied?
Yeah, pretty much this.. there are some other things, but it kind of sums it up. Depending how it's placed in the chart, aspects, house, signs, it could be very influencial in someones life. Instal that application and look at your sub-sub periods of rahu and pay attention what happens around you when starts. I use it with tropical, with vedic it doesn't work for me. I always get really fearful in that period of time even though it only lasts for a few days. It pretty dark for me. And I go fully confident in what I'm doing in that period and when it ends, I always look at it as what the heck I was thinking? How I didn't see it? etc Maybe Vansio can explain why it is like that for me. I would be glad to hear her opinion on this. There are others that don't experience this this bad. I only have a trine to the Moon and is in the 6th house. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted April 24, 2023 06:49 PM
hey mee, its late here so i only briefly looked at comments above. Rahu’s “graha dristi” (aspects/it’s sight) are 5,9 (“trines”), so Moon is afflicted by Rahu natally. also, when the natal moon isn’t placed in kendra (1,4,7,10) or trikon (5,9), then the regular Vimshottari Dasha based from the Moon’s nakshatra won’t work / is incorrect there are important, standard variations:
Ksema Vimshottari Dasha is used for a 2H or 6H Moon
Utpanna 3/11H Moon
Adhanna 8/12H Moon
whereas if the birth moon is in the sign ruled by AK, start Vim Dasha from the AK itself (Kevala Vimshottari) for example, although I have an 8H Moon, I have to use the Kevala Variation of Vimshottari, because my Moon is in Capricorn and Saturn is AK try http://www.deva.guru to see the correct variations. sidereal only.
more explanation
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mee_chryssa
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posted April 26, 2023 03:30 PM
it is in the 10th house, in Rohini Nakshatra, 4th pada of the Moon. Rahu is in the 6th house in Capricorn.
AK is my Sun in Pisces at 29 degrees.IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted April 28, 2023 04:46 AM
do you have telegram? in case you would like to DM insteadtropical signs wont work in birth charts for hindu astrology. in this system of knowledge, that requires precision of measurement and specific tools for specific purposes, the tropical signs are used, but only for the weather (crops) your moon in sidereal-lahiri/whole sign might be in the 11th house. you might need to use Utpanna (dasha starting from fifth nakshatra) variation for sidereal vimshottari dasha sequence i gather your bday is 20.03.1991 looking at the ephemeris for that year:
Mars was the AK from 19.03.-21.03
except on 20.03, in the afternoon the AK could momentarily be Moon however, in the case that your exact birthtime has your Moon fall in Aries, depending on degree, you might then use the Kevala Variation—when mars is AK to have one’s AK connected to the 11th House is a sign of a spiritually-legitimate astrologer. to which i would say “Brava” 👏🏽 if your birthtime was around 11:30 like your parents said (they were there), this then makes your 11H Moon in Aries, the “subhapati” (the lord of Moon) is AK Mars, rules 11H ✅ in this case you would use Kevala Vimshottari over Utpanna a Gemini Ascendent fell between the birth hours of 10:18AM-12:37PM on 20.03.1991 in Eastern Europe Timezone
http://imgur.com/a/QoVHpaK Viṁśottarī Daśā -Starting Tārā Mars(Mṛgaśira)
Ma 1988-02-14 to 1995-02-14
Ra 1995-02-14 to 2013-02-14
Jp 2013-02-14 to 2029-02-14
Sa 2029-02-14 to 2048-02-15
Me 2048-02-15 to 2065-02-14
Ke 2065-02-14 to 2072-02-15
Ve 2072-02-15 to 2092-02-15
Su 2092-02-15 to 2098-02-14
Mo 2098-02-14 to 2108-02-16
http://imgur.com/a/WavXaX2
I have it set to 11:30. Since Mars is slow moving in the course of a single day, any birthtime that day would minimally affect or changes the dates. (these Mahadasha starting dates will be, at most, one week or so off, until you get birthtime rectified professionally) you dont need me to eventually tell you this: do not conflate tropical signs with hindu astrology. not only are you hindering your own astrological-intelligence by doing so… it also bastardizes a math&science, which leads to inaccuracy. Do not mix systems of astrology. just study them both, respectfully, but separately. apply vedic principles only to a vedic chart. there is a sacred, serious reason why/how Ashwini (the first nakshatra) begins at 0° Aries
if you want or need rectification, to get birthtime down to the exact minute and for peace of mind on this matter, i can recommend the affordable astrologer Rafal Gendarz. He’s from Gliwice and lives in Berlin http://youtube.com/@RafalGendarz
it would be very unwise to ever look at navamsa until you do. the navamsa lagna shifts 6 times over the course of two hours between 10:45-12:30
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mee_chryssa
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posted April 28, 2023 02:16 PM
Thank you Vansio.Those are the same periods I go through right now and I've been through until now. Moon and Venus in Aries it's not me at all. I am a calm person during 90% of the time. I only get angry sometimes and it's mostly on the outside when I lose my patience. And Mercury in Aries with Mars in Gemini is just like I behave when I get angry. If it is from Mars in Vedic, then Mars is in Taurus and I can see how it would also fit perfectly because it is in the same place as Tropical Moon. I tried too many times to understand how the Vedic placements would be me, but failed to really see how I am like that because of how my life is going on. IP: Logged |
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