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Topic: Crystal Who?
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 09, 2002 02:20 AM
 
The quote reflects the fact that Free-will can change anyone or anything at any time. It is never too late.  ------------------
"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted January 10, 2002 01:14 AM
So many of us wonder what might have been... *sigh*------------------
"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |
Kalikiano
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From: Columbia
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted January 11, 2002 12:24 PM
I was kinda disgusted this morning when I went to "Linda Goodmans official web site" and found that I had to be a paid member to really get much of anything from "her" site. Nothing against Crystal, a woman I know nothing about, but I dont think it's right for her to earn money with Linda's name.Doesn't she feel qualifyed enough in her own ability's as an Astrologer? Am I wrong or are there other's who feel the same way?IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted January 11, 2002 02:33 PM
Kalikiano~ There are people on both sides of the fence here on that subject  Personally, my feelings are that since there isn't much, if any *spiritual* guidence being *sold* at the LG site (I could be wrong there, I'm not a regular visiter there and have not even checked to see what is *for sale*), I don't have a problem with them charging anyone that is willing to pay for their product - but if they were professing to intuit spiritual advice on a personal, one on one basis, that might be different... From what I have read, Crystal and Ms. Goodman were friends and business partners, and Linda willed the rights to her name to Crystal Bush, and the Webmaster at LG would rightly argue, in my opinion, that it does cost money to support the site and the many people that produce the charts/readings ... indeed, everyone does deserve the right to make a living, best scenario is one can do this by practicing what they love, which I assume they do  ~Princess ------------------
~We can try many ways to get rid of the darkness, but none is as effective as simply increasing the light.~ UnkNown IP: Logged |
Kalikiano
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From: Columbia
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted January 11, 2002 02:58 PM
You made a good point Princess! I knew they were friends but had no idea that she willed the rights to her name. Guess I should do more research before I go posting my oppinions.LOL It just seemed to me that she was using Linda's good name to further her own career. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 12, 2002 12:13 PM
Thanks for clarifying that, Princess. I consider Greg a very close friend of mine, and he is welcome to come add to what Princess said.  ------------------
"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |
Janara
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From: Woodend, VIC, Australia
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted January 21, 2002 05:34 AM
Hi! Janara here.I've just entered this thread and would like to have an understanding of what this Crystal Bush thing is all about. What is this website that she runs? I tried to find it under Crystal Bush but couldn't find anything except advertising for LG's Star Cards. Your comments are all interesting, so I'd like to see this site and judge for myself what all this controversy is all about.  Also, someone mentioned notes re 12th Night Secrets. Are they available anywhere? And what about the Abe/Linda/HH stuff! Interesting conspiracy stuff. I found out how Haward/Abe are connected, but can't figure out how Linda is connected to all this. Seems 12th Night Secrets has some clues. Can anyone enlighten me a bit further?  ------------------
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 21, 2002 08:21 AM
Linda gave the rights to her name to Crystal, and her and Greg formed the Official Linda Goodman Web site. You are currently on the unofficial fan site. You can check out the Official site at: www.lindagoodmanastrology.com ------------------
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Lady of the lake
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From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted February 15, 2002 01:07 AM
Okay - let's get straight to the point. Crystal was never Linda Goodman's closest or even close friend. My understanding is they met once and you can read about that in the book Relationship Signs. By the way - this book was written by Carolyn Reynolds and the stories, memories and experiences within the writings are Carolyn's own. She used Linda's notes only to formulate the basis of the book. Crystal did not write or edit that book. It was edited by another woman who did not get one ounce of credit for it or even a passing mention. Crystal is not an Astrologer. She is a business woman. She met with Linda in relation to forming a business association. Linda got sick and died suddenly. Crystal cared very much that the money she had invested might be lost with Linda's death. There is no greater plan. Let's face it - Linda Goodman doesn't need anyone to promote her. Her books carry their own value and do not need commercialism to keep them alive. Crystal is not mentioned in any other Linda Goodman book. That is an explanation in itself. This unofficial site right here is a lovely place for everyone to share their thoughts in a free and open arena, without censorship, favour or threat of legal action. Apologies for being so outspoken. I can't stand injustices. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted February 15, 2002 08:20 AM
Welcome to the site, Lady! You sure know how to make an entrance!  ------------------
"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |
Princess
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From: Milky Way
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted February 15, 2002 11:44 AM
Lady of the Lake ~  !!! WELCOME !!! Love your nic  Very interesting post there ! Not that I doubt you in the least - historically, that surely sounds more like behavior from people after someone dies - but I'm curious how you came by the information you just shared with us - can you share that with us too? I always wondered how it happened that one of Linda's children, or a relative wouldn't have ended up with the *rights* to her name. ~Princess ------------------
"War is not healthy for children and other living things." ~unknown IP: Logged |
Lady of the lake
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From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted February 15, 2002 03:15 PM
I've had some direct conversations and I have no reason to doubt what I was told.IP: Logged |
YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 15, 2002 10:44 PM
Lady of the Lake...a most warm WELCOME to the site...  And you're right, this is a very  'ing site. Filled with much LITE and HOPE. Princess...I kinda was wondering that too about Linda's children.  ------------------
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YIVY
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Spiritua
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From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted February 16, 2002 12:36 AM
Welcome to Lindaland, Lady of the Lake!   IP: Logged |
Pisces Moon
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From: Canberra ACT Australia
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted February 17, 2002 06:52 AM
Welcome Lady of the Lake!Speaking out is very important, and what you say is what, I'm sure, many of us have felt. IP: Logged |
Gregory
Knowflake Posts: 120
From: North Bend, WA USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted February 17, 2002 02:24 PM
Lady of the Lake, as the moderator of the Official site and Crystal's close personal friend, I am compelled to respond to your harsh statements. quote:
Crystal was never Linda Goodman's closest or even close friend. My understanding is they met once and you can read about that in the book Relationship Signs.
This is pure fabrication. Near the end of Linda's life, Crystal was the only friend she spoke to regularly. Crystal also supported her financially when a large number of "fair weather friends" had deserted her. Less than a week before her passing, Linda told Crystal she wanted to explicitly leave her legacy entirely to Crystal (which was really unnecessary, since she had already signed business contracts with Crystal giving Crystal the commercial and literary rights to her works and charging her with the responsibility of spreading her vision.) Crystal told her that was unnecessary, and to please not put her energy into any such thing. Nonetheless, Linda DID write that memorandum, in her own handwriting, because she wanted it to be UNAMBIGUOUSLY CLEAR what her intentions were (she had had much experience with people "fighting" over her fame and attempting to ussurp her good name for their own benefit). That memorandum exists and is is available for inspection. It is true that they were not lifelong friends - Crystal only knew her for the last several years of her life - but they were extremely close and there was an unbreakable bond of trust and friendship between them. quote:
By the way - this book was written by Carolyn Reynolds and the stories, memories and experiences within the writings are Carolyn's own. She used Linda's notes only to formulate the basis of the book.
Approximately half the text was written by Carolyn Reynolds, who was paid by Crystal for doing so, to put Linda's last writings into a useful frame of reference. The other half of the book is Linda's verbatim writings, left to Crystal by Linda. I have linda's original manuscript in my possession if anyone wants to verify that. Crystal is not listed as an author, but as "edted with an introduction by ... She did write the introduction, and she did edit the book. Of course there was another editor from the publishing company who also did editorial work without a byline - this is the case with ALL commercially published books, publishers always insist on their own editor having a final go at a book no matter who wrote it. quote:
Crystal is not an Astrologer. She is a business woman. She met with Linda in relation to forming a business association.
That is correct. Is it now a crime to be a business woman rather than an astrologer? The circumstances of their meeting are described on our site, for those who are interested. In addition to being a businesswoman, Crystal was deeply impressed and affected by Linda's writing, and that is why she wanted to meet her. Linda was looking for someone to promote several ventures she had in mind, including her computerized compatibility reports, a line of metaphysical merchandise, and a network of Linda Goodman-trained astrologers. From that point on, their relationship developed both commercially and as personal friends. quote:
Linda Goodman doesn't need anyone to promote her. Her books carry their own value and do not need commercialism to keep them alive.
I suppose we should let Linda hersef be the judge of that. If Linda sought out a business partner to help promote her, who are you to say that was not needed or wanted? quote:
This unofficial site right here is a lovely place for everyone to share their thoughts in a free and open arena, without censorship, favour or threat of legal action.
Yes, this unofficial site IS a lovely place. And so is the official site. Your implication of underhanded activities going on there is both inaccurate and calculated to do nothing but create ill feelings. quote:
Apologies for being so outspoken. I can't stand injustices.
Neither can I. So why don't you state openly to the good folks here who you really are and what your personal axe to grind is?Love,
Greg
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Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted February 17, 2002 02:53 PM
Thank you for for clarifying Crystal's relationship. I think its important for people to know that Linda *chose* her to carry on the message. Anything to the contrary should be backed up with more than vague suggestions.IP: Logged |
YIVY
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From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 18, 2002 12:06 AM
Greg....thanks so much for clearing up a few things. I don't think LInda would have liked it one bit people 'squabbling' over things like this. Greg, not to change the subject, but do you have anything written by Linda in her own hand you can scan and post? Nothing major, but even a grocery list or a note to the milk man? I personally would love to see something in her own handwriting. Not that I'm all 'googly eyed' or anything, but would like to see an example of her handwriting. Of course, I understand if this is not possible...most everything minor was probably tossed out, and anything major might cause you problems. It was just a thought. I don't even know if one can do that with a scanner as I am mostly computer illiterate  Heck, I'm 'scannerless' at that. ------------------
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YIVY
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Gregory
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From: North Bend, WA USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted February 18, 2002 01:47 AM
YIVY, I think I can scan some manuscript pages with margin notes and corrections of Linda's ... give me a couple of days, as I'll have to dig them up and take them to Kinko's, my scanner died an ignoble death. Love,
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Seamistress
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posted February 18, 2002 03:21 AM
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YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 19, 2002 01:39 AM
WOO HOO, Greg....obviously a man of many talents  Aren't 'mini-MIRACLES' the best? ------------------
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YIVY
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Morning Storm
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: May 2001
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posted February 19, 2002 10:09 AM
Hi Greg,I guess I'm not surprised to see you on our site, AFTER you blew up at Randall on your site.  No worries, I'm not going to cause a scene. You may be acting as a lizard, but I'm still soaring.  The real reason I'm writing is I wanted to show you this. Our 10-year-old daughter did it and posted it on Sunday before the blow up. I gave it to her to find healing, when I was upset about a couple of issues there. It didn't really come out as I hoped, but Lexis speak for themselves. Greg, she's VERY proud of herself for this work. This is the longest one she has ever done. Of course, it has more letters than anything else she's been given, but that also let me know to give more to bite. Well, after I told her of the situation on your site, and that her Lexi is lindagoodmanastrologydotcom, she became very upset and never wanted to see her Lexi again. You see, out of my three children, she's the closest to Randall. In fact, on Valentine's Day, Aneasha's teacher told me that she recently made the comment that she's closer to Randall than her father, and her teacher thought I should know and let her father know. Anyway, maybe you can help with this situation, since you're here. Randall and I have discussed what we're going to do with this thread, and thought about moving it to the Lexi forum, but it didn't seem right. Aneasha wanted it and posted it on my forum for a reason. Now, she doesn't want to ever see it again. Maybe, just maybe, a comment from you would change that....Here's the link. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000092.html BTW, you may think I hate you right now, but I will always love you. ------------------
Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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Princess
Knowflake Posts: 843
From: Milky Way
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted February 19, 2002 11:57 AM
YIVY~ I'm so glad you thought to ask for a look-see of Linda's handwriting - that is going to be so COOL ! Greg~ Thank you ! for going to the trouble to show us - it will be a special thing for lots of us, I'm sure ~Princess ----------------
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 19, 2002 04:15 PM
I've been quoting the Bible a lot lately, but..."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." ------------------
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Gregory
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From: North Bend, WA USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted February 19, 2002 06:42 PM
Aurial and Randall Aneasha is sooo talented, and she sure picked up a lot of meaningful phrases from the word druids here ... I really liked the way she picked up on a lot of "happy/sad" ideas, because that is so much a part of what Linda's message is about - sadness rhyming with gladness! That's not an easy thing for any of us to grasp, especially one so young, and understanding it is definitely A DOOR TO A LAND (Lindaland ). And A MAD MAN IS NOT CALM, well that may be the insight of the millennium! I'm not sure what you think I might say to make your sweetheart feel better about this, except that she has a blessed talent that she should be so very proud of ... whether she's happy with the subject or not ... and nothing should keep her from being happy with her own work. Sometimes the things we need the most insight and understanding about are things that seem negative or cause us pain, and that should never stop us from loving ourselves for giving our attention to understanding those things, because that's the way spirit and love grows. I love you too, Auriel, with all my heart and I'm so sorry that conflicts and jangled energy have put a strain on the unfettered joyful expression of that love at this time. I believe there is a reason for everything, and sometimes the reasons and lessons to be learned are not at all clear at the time ... but doubtless the Universe unfolds as it should and ultimately all experiences lead to the All Good. As you may know, I posted an apology to Randall on my site, for my harsh words to him in a conflicted situation. I was wrong to do that, and the blame is no one's but my own. I didn't post it here because I saw no reason to bring up jangled vibes here where the exchange did not take place; but since you mention it here I apologize here. There were conflicts going on that Randall was a part of (and you were a part of too ... and so was I), and in a very unspiritual moment I dumped my anger on Randall in a very harsh way that there was no excuse for doing in public. It has always been my contention that such conflicts should be handled in private between the people involved, rather than making them public and insulting, and in this situation I failed completely to practice what I preach ... and hurt two very good friends in the process. For that I am deeply sorry. Love,
Greg PS - If you and Randall would prefer that I don't post here any more for a while, or permanently, I will certainly respect that. I can send the scans of Linda's writing by email and you can post them, just let me know. Love, G. IP: Logged |
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