posted February 20, 2002 03:16 AM         

I'm sorry you consider my comments harsh. I don't agree, of course. But I am most thrilled and flattered that my statements stirred the internet air enough to bring about a long and detailed response.

I write as a true fan of Linda Goodman and her wonderful works, and you and I both agree on that much. You admit that Linda Goodman and Crystal were never close friends as in the type people surely expect, but were business partners and that Crystal supported her financially. Yes, they spoke often, you can't deny that in such an arrangement (it only makes sense) but don't you think it's wrong to pass on the impression that they were 'bestest buddies'? There is a difference. This is, of course, my interpretation, from my discussions with others and my thoughts on the matter. And I'm entitled to that. I don't believe it is right to paint false pictures and that is my argument. People want answers, but instead they are getting a glossy version of the events and they are left wondering what really happened and what it's all about. You only need to read through the many threads to see that. I'm no different to anyone else which is why I did my own research.

For all the fans out there who read Relationship Signs, there were so many discrepencies and something did not sit right with many, including myself. When I found out that others felt the same way, I knew it wasn't just my imagination. That's not to take away the value of the book, because Carolyn Reynolds is obviously an excellent Astrologer. But it was plainly not Linda Goodman's voice we were hearing through the pages. It troubled me for ages. Then, I had some conversations which make me believe, even today, that what I have already said is true, that the real author of the book is Carolyn Reynolds who used Linda Goodman's notes as her guide. You can't write what is in someone elses mind. Even with notes there is still a large proportion of interpretation and intuition from the writer.

I never said there was anything wrong with being a businesswoman. How can there be? I am one myself. But it has to be put right that Linda Goodman did not leave her works to another Astrologer as so many presume. The truth please - always the truth.

I still stand by my statement that Linda Goodman does not need anyone to promote her, and her books DO carry their own value. Do you doubt their worth?

I never made any suggestion that there was any underhanded activities on the official site. How would I know? I can't get in there unless I pay to make that judgement. How strange that you should feel the need to make such a comment. All I said is what you agreed to - that this unofficial site is a lovely place for people to share their thoughts in a free and open arena, without censorship, favour or threat of legal action. That is the truth. And people should be able to say what is in their hearts without feeling that they might be in trouble for it. This is one of few sites anywhere that don't delete or edit posts. I think that's marvellous.

And for the good folks here, I can honestly say I have no axe to grind except that I love Linda Goodman's books and the wonderful life she brought to each page. I made that emotional rollercoaster ride with her through her good times and her many hard lessons. Her books made me feel well acquainted with her, and in her passing I felt the grief that I know many still do today. Not only in losing a friend but in losing the magic that her presence on this earth made me feel. Nobody can take that away from me.

Crystal is lucky to have you as a friend to stand up for her. But I will stand up for my friend too - in my own way - and for what I believe in. It's been wonderful talking to you Gregory. Let there be more of it!

posted February 20, 2002 05:39 AM         

I can't agree that Linda's voice does not come through in Relationship Signs. The second half is written by Carolyn Reynolds, and has very little in common with the half written from Linda's notes. Even if Carolyn interpolated here and there, it really sounds like Linda talking to us. If Carolyn did make extensive changes, then she did a good job.

posted February 20, 2002 11:25 AM         

It's coming, Adwen!

Lady of the Lake, I will respond this one more time, but I really don't want to bring a downer tug-of-war energy here, so if you still want to carry a grudge after this I'm happy to just let it go.

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You admit that Linda Goodman and Crystal were never close friends as in the type people surely expect, but were business partners and that Crystal supported her financially. Yes, they spoke often, you can't deny that in such an arrangement (it only makes sense) but don't you think it's wrong to pass on the impression that they were 'bestest buddies'? There is a difference.

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Then, I had some conversations which make me believe, even today, that what I have already said is true, that the real author of the book is Carolyn Reynolds who used Linda Goodman's notes as her guide. You can't write what is in someone elses mind. Even with notes there is still a large proportion of interpretation and intuition from the writer.

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I never said there was anything wrong with being a businesswoman. How can there be? I am one myself. But it has to be put right that Linda Goodman did not leave her works to another Astrologer as so many presume. The truth please - always the truth.

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I still stand by my statement that Linda Goodman does not need anyone to promote her, and her books DO carry their own value. Do you doubt their worth?

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I never made any suggestion that there was any underhanded activities on the official site. How would I know? I can't get in there unless I pay to make that judgement. How strange that you should feel the need to make such a comment.

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The fact is that you are speaking on behalf of a friend who has a personal grudge against Crystal, and your failure to disclose that, while casting a shadow of negative innuendo and opinion unsupported by facts, is a disservice to the devoted followers of Linda you pretend to be speaking for, as well as simply not a very nice or honest thing to do. I'll leave it at that. This is too nice a place to host a running argument based on ill will. All the best to you.

posted February 20, 2002 12:50 PM         

...sigh

~Princess

posted February 22, 2002 02:03 PM         

I see that there has been a new thread for Linda's Handwriting started on the Linda's Life forum, so I'm posting these there. Here's the link, for those who don't want to navigate:

Linda's Handwriting

Please be patient if it takes a little while to download, and enjoy!

posted February 22, 2002 04:36 PM         

~Princess

posted February 24, 2002 08:17 AM         

First of all, why don't you people just e-mail each other with your arguments ? You are so OBVIOUSLY arguing about something else and trying to make it sound innocent and unrelateed to the past.
Secondly, "Lady of the Lake" sounds suspiciously like this woman called Kathleen who used to write on the other site and who was a real nutcase.
Thirdly, Gregory: you have always seemed like a reasonably intelligent man, how can you keep having the same argument again and again and again..... It is a one way ticket to temporary insanity, be warned
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Now that I have got that out of the way, I can get on with the purpose of my post:

Can Anyone Help:

Does anyone know what kind of music LG liked??, I know she talked about classical music alot certainly seemed to like that, but does anyone know if she liked country music? Did she like John Denver by any chance? He wrote lovely songs about Colorado and West Virginia. Linda seemed really cosmopolitan and not really like a Southerner at all. Did she actually have a Virginian accent??

These are the things that I wonder about....

Love and Peace to you all.
No offence intended to anyone, but these fights are really, really boring

XXX

Lizzie (not Borden)

posted February 24, 2002 11:03 AM         

Linda loved many styles of music, though I don't know for sure about country music or John Denver. She loved classical and church music, adored show tunes, and she was also stimulated by Aries-type "martial" music (Sousa marches). Her favorite songs were "On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever)," and "When You Wish Upon a Star."

Over the years Linda did develop a very cosmopolitan accent (she also worked a little in radio and TV), but there was always a bit of Southern "twang" that never deserted her!

posted February 24, 2002 01:25 PM         

Hey kNowflakes... who was it that said something like...

"If you have something bad to say about someone say it to their face (privately) ... if you have something nice to say about someone put it in writing."

Very wise words.

~Princess

posted February 25, 2002 01:33 AM         

No axe to grind - just a fan, as I said before. Does Crystal really need so much explanation for my comments? I'm really astounded at the passionate, lengthy response. And flattered of course.

My name is not Kathleen, suspiciously or otherwise.

Gregory, there are a lot of people out there who knew Linda Goodman and were directly involved with her. I don't know how you can narrow it down to who it was I spoke to or that it should burn so much fear in your heart. You sound like such a nice person and obviously a loyal friend to Crystal Bush.

You're right, this is only going to end up as a mud slinging exercise when my only intention was to say what I believe - and I still stand by it.

Glad at least that I could bring some laughter to you, Gregory. LOL. It's good medicine, let's face it. Not to mention some high spirited conversation - fabulous exercise for the soul.

Happy wishes to all,

posted February 25, 2002 11:47 AM         

You know, I only intended to make one post and then to retreat to my voyerism. However, there is just one more thing that to want to say regarding this fighting and I am going to quote LG to make my point:

"Things aren't always what they seem
And people are sometimes TOO willing to believe whatever they're told"

It really does suprise me just how willing people are to believe whatever they are told. AND I would like to also add the following pearl ; It is really easy to criticise things, that is the easy path. Its alot harder to not be negative and its alot harder to NOT project ones insecurities onto the outside world.

Well thats my 5 cents worth.

Love L

posted February 25, 2002 11:51 AM         

You know, I only intended to make one post and then to retreat to my voyerism. However, there is just one more thing that to want to say regarding this fighting and I am going to quote LG to make my point:

"Things aren't always what they seem
And people are sometimes TOO willing to believe whatever they're told"

It really does suprise me just how willing people are to believe whatever they are told. AND I would like to also add the following pearl ; It is really easy to criticise things, that is the easy path. Its alot harder to not be negative and its alot harder to NOT project ones insecurities onto the outside world.

Well thats my 5 cents worth.

Love L

posted February 25, 2002 05:40 PM         

Linda had a lot of opposition in high places, so it would go to reason that the Keeper of her Flame would as well.

posted February 25, 2002 11:04 PM         

See you are a 'southern' gal like me.

That is so true, Randall.....from what I heard, Linda did like her BIG BANG arguments now and then. Seems she said it was like a thunderstorm that helped remove all the dust out of the air so that afterwards everything was BRIGHT and CLEAR!