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Topic: Crystal Who?
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YIVY Knowflake Posts: 4747 From: Louisiana Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 01, 2002 01:01 AM
Morning...I actually didn't think about that, but now that you mention it ------------------
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Aselzion Moderator Posts: 1401 From: North Andover, MA Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 07, 2002 09:47 PM
Greetings...I do not know Crystal Bush, nor Gregory, but I did pay the occasional visit to the other site; LindaGoodmanAstrology.com (or .net) and I have to say that it rather offended me, as someone who did know Linda. I am an astrologer, and Linda spoke very passionately about House Systems and was clear about stating her marked preference for EQUAL HOUSES. Any chart I had seen that she cast was done using the Equal House System. In the Astrology course, they were teaching with the quadrant systems. Personally I DO USE such a system (Campanus if anyone is interested), in addition to the Equal House chart. But if one is going to teach Linda's astrology, I think it should have been done with Equal Houses. If I were to teach "Linda Goodman Astrology", that would be the only way I could possibly do it. She did state that some people have good luck with the other systems, but she also stated that for HER: "Placidian Intercepted houses which claim to give more depth to astrological interpretation of the nativity, only serve to cloud the issue and create ambivalence.... I merely state here my personal faith in the decided superiority of the Equal House system of the ancients for those who have inquired, and those who have expressed an interest in my private preference. For me, the Placidian system resulted in many inaccuracies of interpretation..." She did advocate that if it worked for others that they should, by all means, use it. But anyone professing to teach her methods should be teaching in Equal Houses, and that was NOT my observation of their teaching outline. Also she detested the "daily horoscopes" a la Jeanne Dixon. And it irked me to see such an offering on a so-called "Linda Goodman" site. These are only my observations, but any careful reading of Linda's works would reveal her disdain for that approach to astrology. Pax et Bonum... A IP: Logged |
Carlo Knowflake Posts: 1612 From: Second America Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 07, 2002 10:28 PM
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trippysht Knowflake Posts: 274 From: Morristown, NJ USA Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 11, 2002 08:05 PM
anyone know why lindagoodmanastrology .net or .com doesn't load for me? or why i can't see gregory's linda handwriting samples?i'm glad there was some mud-slinging and whatnot, i like to hear thoroughly opposing viewpoints, and people passionately pitted against each other isnt so bad when in the end both parties can honestly wish each other the best. i found all this very interesting, and tho i've heard a lot of negative feedback about relationship signs i think i might pick it up and judge for myself.... i was under the impression that none of it was REALLY in her exact words- tho i suppose many of you still feel that way about it huh? anyways very informative IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24779 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 11, 2002 11:04 PM
It doesn't load due to the board being switched to Greg's new site at www.consciousevolution.com ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
silverbells Knowflake Posts: 1506 From: The second star to the right (which shines in the night for'eer) Registered: Apr 2003
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posted May 12, 2003 06:56 PM
hey guys, I am troubled by what I have heard about the website run by Crystal. And everyone keeps saying that Linda had a plan and she must have known what she was doing. That made me think. In the song "American Pie" (Don MCLean) when he says, "...and as the plane climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial right..." I was thinking that maybe for the balance of good and evil, some goodness must be sacrificed to balance how much positivity was brought (at least for now until we have won) Do you think that this is valid? Whatever the case, LOVE TO THE TORTURED SOULS who cannot recognize love and embrace negativity because it is the only thing they think they know. P.S. not to say that this individual Crystal is negative or evil.
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trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 15, 2004 03:33 PM
To the top for FishKitten, as it might provide some interesting reading.IP: Logged |
LMB Moderator Posts: 782 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted March 15, 2004 04:23 PM
Hello, I was a part of lindagoodman.net (oh, I forgot what it was called too)... i was there when it first opened up and I was SO excited to be a part of something that involved people who KNEW Linda (there were a few more people beside Crystal and Gregory who knew Linda). At first it was nice, my first experience with talking to people of like-minds. I had been hungry to talk about Linda for so long, I felt so relieved. But soon, things started turning bad and I took a look at "Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs" and I even begrudged the title because it couldn't have been all of Linda's work. I had befriended someone who seemed to have inside information on the inner-workings and I believed her. Through her, I found out some not-so-nice things going on. I, too, disliked the direction they were heading - daily horoscopes, SELLING ITEMS in Linda's name... it seemed to promote everything Linda was against. I had some pretty strong emotions about it, too. I couldn't believe that Linda would willingly leave her legacy in such hands as Crystal's, who seemed to be self-promoting more than anything. I was very confused and lost. Finally, though, I had to come to the conclusion that things happened the way they were supposed to.... because in the long run, Crystal ran into some legal troublea and for more reasons, the site had to shut down. I thought that fair, even though I know some honestly good people had found themselves there. And then, thank goodness, I found Randall's site here and, too, I was here since the very beginning (even if I haven't been very vocal that often and for that I feel sheepish and regretful) and a whole new world opened. The skies parted and the REAL essence of Linda came through. I found people who weren't interested in making a buck. I found you all, you who want to know TRUTH and LOVE. Who want to spiral on things. I love this site, even if I only have a limited amount of time to come here. I don't know what the point of this post is, I just wanted to tell my story of the other website and how lucky I feel to have found Randall and all you folks here. Wouldn't Linda be happy? Or I could say - isn't she? Much love LMB IP: Logged |
Isis Knowflake Posts: 1912 From: CA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted March 15, 2004 05:14 PM
I think the real point is to not attach too much emotion to the concept of Linda, and to just value the teachings issued by her during her lifetime. The rest is just superfluous drama that only serves to detract from Linda's true message and teachings. IP: Logged |
FishKitten Knowflake Posts: 1031 From: on the trail of the Old Ones Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 15, 2004 05:36 PM
Thanks so much for bringing up this thread, Trillian. It explains a lot. And now I'm thinking that perhaps I jumped to conclusions years ago when Crystal appeared to be quite rude. She didn't seem overly pleased that I had Linda's personal phone number and seemed to insinuate that I got it by some nefarious means. I can see now that Linda must have already been ill at the time and perhaps Crystal was just trying to protect her. I also now understand the comments some made about Relationship Signs. With all due respect to those who produced it, I don't believe that I shall purchase that book.IP: Logged |
trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 15, 2004 07:50 PM
LMB, thank you for sharing your story and your insights, they were valuable for me. FishKitten, you're welcome! I know that it was an eye-opening thread for me when I first read it. I think you may be right, she was very ill at the time. And if we assume that all things happen for a reason, and the reason is always right...then this too was right. Perhaps it was a karmic debt paid by Linda. Then of course, what Crystal did with the energies was up to her, her choice. IP: Logged |
FishKitten Knowflake Posts: 1031 From: on the trail of the Old Ones Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 15, 2004 08:45 PM
Linda always seemed so full of Aries fire and conviction, I guess it never occured to me that she might be sick. If anyone on their own could have figured out immortality, it was Mary Alice Isis. I think it was like the words to an old Kris Kristoferson song...this world was sadder than the one she hoped to find. Hard Ram heads can be a shield for soft lamb hearts. I don't know everything that happened, but it sounds like Linda felt love and closeness when times were very difficult. I hope that is so.IP: Logged |
trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 16, 2004 09:22 AM
Well, from a woman with a lot of Aries fire (Sun, Venus and Merc), I hope you're right too, FishKitten. It will most likely remain a mystery to us all, unless her children or Crystal one day decide to speak on the subject.I can't presume to know what happened to Linda in her final days, or if she indeed had final days. Is she an immortal? Maybe. It really doesn't matter to me, dying is simply crossing into Spirit, changing directions...an end perhaps to a specific incarnation as a carbon-based life form, , but still a continuation. Even scientists will tell you that energy can not be destroyed...it just becomes something else when altered.
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FishKitten Knowflake Posts: 1031 From: on the trail of the Old Ones Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 16, 2004 02:00 PM
I think Carl Jung said something to the effect that life is a fairly short interlude with a mystery on either side. Let us treasure each part as we encounter it. When I first read Star Signs, I thought immortality sounded great. Eventually I realized that we are already all immortal. As you said, energy cannot be created or distroyed, only changed. I no longer care to stay in this body forever. I'd rather switch around. It's more fun and you get to experience things in different ways. I don't think that means we have to start over again mentally and spiritually. Maybe Linda decided the same thing. Maybe she needed a new body and a new chance to find the joy of existence. No one is ever really gone, they are just visiting a new neighbourhood. I hope Linda likes the one she is in now...and where ever or when ever she is, I hope she knows that she has caused the light to shine into the dark corners of millions of lives.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24779 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 17, 2004 07:02 PM
I'm sure Crystal meant well and did what she felt was right. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 17, 2004 09:04 PM
Absolutely Randall. Hope I didn't say anything that smacked of the contrary.And for the record, I found value in Relationship Signs. No, I didn't always hear Linda's voice when reading it, but there was still some interesting information.
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Eleanore Moderator Posts: 2400 From: Japan Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 17, 2004 09:42 PM
I used to visit the official Linda site quite a while ago. I didn't have a great feeling about it from the beginning but, since it was about Linda, I decided to try it out. For the most part, while I hung around there, the people were respectable towards each other, even if they disagreed. I thought that was great. Eventually, however, I was privy to a few seemingly meanspirited discussions and the deletion of posts which I felt was just censorship. I began to distance myself from that site, though I still would post occassionally. I remember that one day I had a startlingly clear insight about something and just really felt like sharing it with others. So I posted it. Perhaps it wasn't worded perfectly or lacking in details, but nevertheless, I thought it a valid point. Regardless, I was very diplomatically told to keep my opinions to myself by one of the moderators (no, I will not name who because I don't think it is appropriate) ... I can't remember the exact wording of the responding post, nor do I wish to get into details about it. It didn't bother me at all that someone else might disagree with my views, lol, it happens here with fair frequency. It was just the manner in which the response was phrased ... so condescending, and sugared as though that would make the basic intent better ... it gave me such an icy feeling that I can still recall it to this day I don't wish to imply that everyone involved with that site was negative, though I do think a few meanies might've scurried in through the door. I also agree with Aselzion (? sorry if I misspelled it) about the House System they employed ... lol, I agreed even before he posted his comments. As for the official site having to shut down and rename itself, well, I think that speaks for itself, especially since the name Linda Goodman is no longer a part of its title. I hope no one is offended by that because it's just how I feel. Finally, as for Relationship Signs ... I bought the book. I may be called a heretic for saying this, but I definitely got much different vibes off of it than from Linda's other works. However, the actual interpretations presented in that book, for the most part, still give me that warm, snuggling-under-the-covers-drinking-peppermint-tea feeling that I always associate with Linda. Whenever I've made use of that book for a chart comparison, I have ignored everything but the actual interpretations. There are certainly a few discrepancies within those interpretations and what Linda wrote in other works. Whenever I've come across those, I have reverted to her other works for guidance. I often wondered who these people were that they had such liberties with Linda's work (I am not saying that they did anything wrong with her writings, I simply meant the liberty to publish her work post-humously and incorporate it with someone else's work). I instinctively have always sent some loving vibes out to Linda whenever I come across that book because, aside from what I can recognize as her actual writings, it has always felt a little unhinged to me. I had no idea who Crystal was before I read the posts here. Frankly, it makes no difference to me who she is now that I do know. I have never felt comfortable with the idea of making money off of Linda's ideas ... her works are an entirely different story. I see nothing wrong with a not-for-profit organization, with permission, selling her books to help out a good cause. I mean things like those "Star Cards" or whatever they're actually called. My intuition just says NO! If yours says yes, then by all means, feel free to go out and get them ... my opinion is just that. In the end, I would really like to express my gratitude to Randall for creating this wonderful website. I have referred other friends here and they have felt just as welcome as I have. The feeling I get being here very often comes close to the one I get when I read LG's writings, and for that I am very grateful. LOL I think it's great that I can get that feeling even if the people responding to my posts totally disagree with what I'm saying. Thanks again, and much Love & Light to all!IP: Logged |
trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 18, 2004 09:03 AM
Thanks for your lovely post Eleanore. IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ Knowflake Posts: 5927 From: The Little River Indian Reservation Registered: Jan 2002
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posted March 30, 2004 01:06 AM
Hi Dear Knowflakes......May I say a few words????I'd like to say that my experience with the official Linda Goodman site was nothing but great..... ....and I still post on the current site which evolved from that one....CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION... ...now, lest anyone thinks badly of Crystal...let me say here....that... Crystal Bush and Gregory Ellison were both instrumental in literally saving my life, at one time.... I shall forever be indebted to these good people... ......and that's why..... ...it really hurts me when people "throw stones." (Here, I am thinking of Randall's quote from the Bible...."He who is without sin, cast the first stone.") Crystal is a sweet angel of mercy who came to my rescue (as well as Gregory), and it saddens me to see people speak ill of her...or of Gregory either, for that matter...*sigh* Crystal and Gregory.....I love you both...and I always will.... Thank you Randall, for allowing me to blurt out the truth of my "beautiful restorative soul experience," with both of them... I cannot be more explicit about this.....but believe me....it's true.... Love, Rainbow IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24779 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 30, 2004 03:16 AM
Crystal and Gregory should know by now that it just comes along with the territory. Carrying Linda's torch makes one the target of attacks from every corner. Not that I'm invalidating anyone's experiences; I'm just relating what it's like from this side of the fence. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ Knowflake Posts: 5927 From: The Little River Indian Reservation Registered: Jan 2002
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posted March 30, 2004 02:15 PM
Touche, Randall.. We all have our own experiences...*sigh* Love, Rainbow IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ Knowflake Posts: 5927 From: The Little River Indian Reservation Registered: Jan 2002
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posted March 31, 2004 04:44 AM
Hi Randall......I'm back....I was reading your post again, and I just wanted to clear up something... You said, "Crystal and Gregory should know by now that it just comes along with the territory. Carrying Linda's torch makes one the target of attacks from every corner." Yes that's true, Randall. I'm sure that they do know that by now. But Randall, it wasn't Crystal or Gregory who made the post defending them(they don't even know it exists...) It was me...*sigh* And I did it out of loyalty to people who had befriended me...at a very low point in my life. I think you'd do the same, Randall My post was not to start any new controversies over who did wrong or who did right, on any websites. It was a post on a thread about Crystal, and so I naturally assumed that I could also express my opinion. ...and even tho it's kinda like ancient history, anyway, I have not forgotten, nor will I ever, their kindness to me..*sigh* HOpe you understand... LOVe, Rainbow IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24779 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 31, 2004 08:04 AM
I think you misunderstood what I said. I've been been through my fair share of attacks as well. It comes along with the turf. We take our blows (whether justified or not) and still try to do what we each feel is in Linda's best interests. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24779 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 31, 2004 08:07 AM
By the way, I just re-read my harsh comments at the beginning of this string and would like to state that I and Gregory were having problems at the time, but I have nothing but respect for him and all he has been through. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ Knowflake Posts: 5927 From: The Little River Indian Reservation Registered: Jan 2002
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posted March 31, 2004 01:45 PM
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