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Topic: Why Was December 8th So Important To Linda?
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Randall
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posted December 08, 2002 12:42 PM
  
Linda spoke very little about this date (and only to her closest friends), so it is difficult to know why it meant so much to Linda. In prior strings, we have sleuthed out several possibilities. December 8 was the Feast of Isis and Osiris. It was also the Catholic date of Immaculate Conception. And it is the Hour of Grace (noon). Any other ideas?  ------------------
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Jaqueline
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posted December 08, 2002 07:25 PM
Dear Webmaster 
I cannot say why December 8 was special for Linda, but December 8 is a very special day . On December 8 it's commemorated the day of OXUM, in the African religion of the ORIXÁS.
Orixás are African Gods that represent the forces of nature. For them, everything depends on the Orixás.
On December 8 it is commemorated the day of Oxum that is Venus in astrology.
Oxum is the Goddess of love, fertility, gold, marriages. She is sweet and feminine, the most beautiful woman and loved daughter of OXALA ( Jesus ).
She is the Goddess that seduced all the masculine Orixás. Her archetype represents the force of waters. Not the water of the sea, but the water of the waterfall . Oxum is the African Venus, therefore, December 8 is the day of Venus.  Jakie  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 09, 2002 12:19 AM
WOW!  ------------------
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posted December 10, 2002 12:03 AM
Wow Jakie, pretty cool! ------------------
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Jaqueline
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posted December 10, 2002 01:20 PM
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anessene
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posted June 03, 2003 12:13 PM
Well, it was Jim Morrison's birthday... IP: Logged |
need to believe
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posted June 03, 2003 05:29 PM
It was also the date John Lennon was shot dead.IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted June 04, 2003 05:56 AM
Interesting. Two very special people. I know Linda liked Lennon. And he was a truly great man  IP: Logged |
LMB
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posted June 04, 2003 11:47 PM
Yes, I know a friend of Linda's who does a special ritual on Dec. 8th for her. She's always been private about why, though. Maybe we ought to recognize it in our own way when the day comes, as something holy for Linda, and maybe not try to guess why. LMB IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 05, 2003 04:05 AM
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posted June 05, 2003 04:27 PM
So we could have a 'Linda Goodman' day on December 8th! It'd be a little cultish, but still a good way to remember her. 
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trillian
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posted December 03, 2003 08:37 PM
To the top...because the date is approaching...Hmmm, I'll have to check with my sis on this, my dad died either Dec. 8 or 9 (many many years ago)...
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TINK
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posted December 03, 2003 10:21 PM
Forgive my ignorance. I'm not a Catholic. What exactly is the immaculate conception? Does it refer to the virgin birth of Mary or the virgin birth of Jesus? If Mary conceived on Dec. 8th how was Jesus born on Dec. 25? But if Jesus was born in August (as I think Glinda believed) then the Dec. 8th conception would make sense. At any rate, it does seems to have something to do with Isis, Osiris, and Horus. The day Osiris was healed and Horus conceived?Interesting what Jaqueline said. Mass subconcious memories and all that. Trillian, where are those other strings Randall mentioned? And what is the Hour of Grace? IP: Logged |
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posted December 03, 2003 11:48 PM
December 8th is the day when Prince Siddhartha Gautama attained enlightenment and became the Buddha. This day is also called Bodhi Day.For six years Siddhartha almost starved himself, hoping that by his extreme way of life, he might attain enlightenment. But he saw he was no nearer to the enlightenment than when he had started his search. So he decided to follow a middle way that would avoid all extremes. He began to take sufficient food. One day, he seated himself under the spreading boughs of a big tree and vowed that he would never leave the place until he had attained enlightenment. For forty nine days, he sat in meditation. In the early morning of the 8th of December, he gained final, complete and perfect enlightenment. At that time, he was thirty five years old. P.S. Tink..as for the December 25th birthdate for Jesus..remember the world's greatest fraud? December 25th was the day that worshippers of Mithras celebrated the Festival of Mithras. It was one of two days which marked the intersection points of their holy cross, the Winter Solstice. The other day was around April 20th, day that the Sun,(father of Mithras), moved into the constellation of Taurus the bull, sacred symbol of Mithras. They celebrated that "holy" day on the following Sun-day, today we call it Easter. Jesus had nothing to do with either date. IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted December 04, 2003 09:53 AM
Tink, I will look for those threads for you...Daf, thanks so much for your input, but...as far as the world's greatest fraud, remember that belief/faith is relative. Some will ride along with you on your belief system, some will not.
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posted December 04, 2003 11:20 AM
Oh, I don't expect people to believe what I believe. I'm not presenting my belief system, I'm presenting facts. You may verify the practices of Mithraic cults by simply researching for yourself.
You do NOT need to take my word for it. Look, seek and you will find. There is a difference between presenting a belief system and presenting data. What is presented here is data: It is a fact that worshippers of Mithras celebrated the Festival of Mithras on December 25th. It is a fact that the Sunday after the Sun had moved into the constellation of Taurus was one of their Holiest days. Coincidentally(?) we happen to celebrate Easter on that same day. It is a fact that Jesus, a Jew, celebrated the Sabbath day on Saturday, not Sunday, and that worshippers of Mithras had their holy day on Sun-day, since their god Mithras was the Son of the Sun god. These are not my beliefs, these are archeologically verified, historical facts. You can label them beliefs until the cows come home and that won't change what they are. Truth does not subscribe to a belief system. Truth is what remains when individual beliefs are stripped away. Hopefully you found the reference to Bodhi Day helpful. Love from your brother, daf IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted December 04, 2003 11:32 AM
Yes, daf, the reference is interesting and helpful...and yet I think perhaps in regards to Randall's original post, it is probably only a piece of a part of a whole.One of my first college courses (years ago!)was entitled "Historians and the Living Past" and taught by Alan Lichtman at American U. The core of the course was a means to exercise our brains by presenting us with a three-point system able to disprove anything presented as "historical fact." In other words, there are no facts. Oh, you can argue that point till the cows come home...but maybe you'd be interested in pursuing that line of thought yourself sometime. His book "Hostorians and the Living Past" is probably available for purchase... Christians will teach the facts on Christianity...you are here to share the facts on Mithra. But isn't it wonderful to have a forum in which to share? I still don't think we've tapped Linda's secret, though many of these things might factor in.... IP: Logged |
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posted December 04, 2003 12:04 PM
Nothing can be presented as the whole Truth except this:There is no you, nor is there a me, there is only God. IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted December 04, 2003 12:06 PM
I found the Bodhi Day reference very helpful. I was aware of the blessed event but not aware of the day on which it occured. It certainly seems to be an important day for many religions and cultures. History does repeat itself. A never-ending spiral. We fall into rhythms. There must be a starting place, though. An event that set the tone. I wonder if this is the Isis and Osiris connection?Daf ~ it is so true what you say about "the facts". It is our interpertation of the facts that can be so variable. Many years ago I came across the Mithras/Christ connection. For me it strenghtened my faith. The event at Golgotha, and all that proceeded it, so altered the course of humanity. I believe it was forseen by many cultures and religions. There are many examples, including Mithras. Zoroastrianism too. Even Baldur, the Norse god, is I think prophetic. The Incarnation of Christ was waited for by many - not just the Jews.
I once read a book - the name escapes me - that discussed flood myths from around the world. I was about 15 when I read it. How shocked and surprised I was to find that Noah was not alone! He had Mayan and Egyptian compatriots and apparently a good friend named Gilgamesh. But for me this did not weaken Noah's claim. It strenghtened it. I almost hesitate to use the word "Christ". Christ is beyond Christianity. At least what Christianity has become. I believe the Christ Spirit was with/in Siddhartha under the Bohdi Tree that wonderful day just as sure as I believe it was with/in the man Jesus from the day John baptised him until the day he died on the Cross. Anyway where's Meili? I'll bet she'll have something interesting to say about the mysterious December 8th.
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posted December 04, 2003 01:05 PM
I believe we are al trying a little too hard to have the day's special meaning to her make sense, and have perhaps overlooked the most obvious and simple answers. Is it not entirely possible and likely that the day had special meaning to her for reasons of a purely personal nature? This would make sense for if there were a broader reason for it to be special would she not have shared it openly as she did the rest of her beliefs? So being that it was a day special to her for personal reasons, and being as private as she was about her personal life, would it not make sense that she would not speak about it except to her close friends? This most likely the date of something that happened to her in her life, like the birth/death of a love one, the day she met a special person in her life, or some other similar thing. I am sure that short of asking her personally, or one of her close friends choosing to divulge the reason, we can only speculate. I fell as though the reasons were extremely personal, and looking for activities outside her life will not give the true reason. It was a day of intense personal meaning to her. If it were not personal, I feel whe would have shared the reason.IP: Logged |
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posted December 04, 2003 02:13 PM
There are some things here which ring almost too true to be ignored. The first is that our lovely heart Tink ties these pieces together so beautifully! The cycles, the rythmn, the significance of this day to history refuses to be lost in time or denied. Yes tink, there almost certainly must be a starting point, do you think perhaps it marks the day that Light first appeared in the Void? Yet, it is endless and so that is only the start of a cycle, in fact, perhaps the Lord has "Let there be light" many times...grayheart, again, such wisdom that it moggles the bind! Perhaps if Buddha had never told anyone about the day of his enlightenment, except for perhaps a very few close associates, it would have had only personal significance for him? Perhaps what we are discussing here is Linda's day of profound revelation? Perhaps this was the day that she stepped through some door of enlightenment which we can only speculate about on this day? Perhaps some unknown veil was lifted, some missing piece of the puzzle fell into place for her on this day? Perhaps the cycle was repeated by history yet again, with our beloved Linda?  IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted December 04, 2003 02:36 PM
Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that grayheart. Perhaps both personal and cosmic significance. The personal significance would be even more significant in association with the cosmic, no? I was under the impression she was going to reveal the Osiris/Isis story(along with Dec 8th?)in 12th Night Secrets."the Day the Light first appeared in Void"
Such a lovely thought. What do you say O Wise Randall? IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted December 04, 2003 04:16 PM
I suspect that you are correct, grayheart, that it was a day of personal significance to Linda!But it's fun to muse upon these things, and look what all this lovely spiraling has brought us. And you never know, a confidant of Linda's could be peeking around the board and decide one day that it is the right time to reveal the mystery... IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted December 04, 2003 04:18 PM
Tink, Randall brought the other thread to the top, it's in Free for All. IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted December 04, 2003 04:58 PM
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