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posted November 07, 2003 02:47 AM         

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There is nothing cultish or attention getting about real Vampirism. We are actually very underground. Vampirism is about asthetics, beauty, spirituality and sexuality. There is no "leader" or a doctrine that we follow. Drinking blood is only dangerous if your dumb and careless enough to feed indescrimanantly with people who haven't been tested for STD's! It is strongly encouraged to have only one donor that you trust and that has been routinely tested for STD's.

And don't tell me that it has never been said or implied here that Linda is still alive. You guys act like she's the messiah and star signs is the bible! lol

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posted November 07, 2003 09:40 AM         

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Sure, some may think Linda is alive, but that is neither here nor there. Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, especially at a Linda site. Those of us who feel close to Linda can't explain that to those who don't. She was hardly a messiah. Linda was all too human--often angry, rash, and unforgiving, but at the same time, filled with a powerful gift that she freely shared with the world--a woman who Lived and Loved with her whole Heart. To those who look at Linda as just an astrologer, they cannot understand nor comprehend the bond we share with her. Star Signs our Bible? Not hardly. Linda told us to question all beliefs--including even everything she said. I'm very proud to call Gooberz my Bible, though.

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posted November 07, 2003 01:15 PM         

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Succubus...I'm not too sure why you think that we all view Linda as a god or that this is some kind of Heaven's Gate cult. I certainly don't consider her a god and I don't think she is still alive. It is as Randall said...she was very human, but also quite interesting. Many of the things she said were basically just her telling others how she interpreted esoteric information. She did not make up most of the stuff she wrote about, she just presented it in a way that was accessable to many people. I think there is a huge difference in worshipping someone and simply discussing their ideas and deciding which ones apply to our individual lives. One of the things she said that I do like is that we should respect the lives and beliefs of others. If that makes me a nut, so be it.

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posted November 07, 2003 01:40 PM         

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Lindas spirit/soul is alive. I believe the spirit/soul never perishs.

A double standard is a double standard Succubus. To disregard anothers belief is to invalidate your own. Pure opinion but since you`re sharing....

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posted November 07, 2003 03:32 PM         

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Linda didn't like secret groups, and she took that information and made it available to the masses.

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posted November 08, 2003 01:31 PM         

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And, of course, she explained it in plain english without all that elitist initiation and ritualistic mumbo jumbo.

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posted November 10, 2003 01:49 PM         

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Oh please! she did not explain anything clearly! Just alot of half truths and ridiculous theories. Example: immortality, regrowing limbs like a lizard, her ridulous creation theory of two Suns, immortal earthlings and the Earth not spinning at one point, English being the first language, all animals were really vegetarians, etc...lol if you believe any of this, your just as bad as those Waco and Heaven's Gate people! And don't tell me none of this is in the book, because it is.

Most of the material in star signs that made a little bit of sense was ripped off from Edgar Cayce anyway!

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posted November 10, 2003 03:38 PM         

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For your information, much of this is taught in various secret societies, and some of it was taken from The Secret of All Ages. My next question is: Why are you here? If you are not here to honor Linda's memory with the rest of us, then you must be here to cause trouble. Perhaps, you would be happier at a vampire bulletin board (of which there are several on the Net).

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posted November 11, 2003 05:07 AM         

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Randall wrote:
"For your information, much of this is taught in various secret societies, and some of it was taken from The Secret of All Ages."

Umm, I thought Linda was against secret societies?? And if so, why is she ripping off their information? For a profit no less!

Randall:
"My next question is: Why are you here? If you are not here to honor Linda's memory with the rest of us, then you must be here to cause trouble."

I just happened to stumble on to the site, read alot of off the wall stuff and did something that I notice no one here does: ASK QUESTIONS! Just because my questions make you question your beliefs and cause you to THINK, I'm labled a troublemaker.
Why am I still here? You entertain me. Some of these threads boggle the mind. It's a fun read. lol

Randall:
"Perhaps, you would be happier at a vampire bulletin board (of which there are several on the Net)."

I own and operate one for an entire Metropolitan Vampire society!

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posted November 11, 2003 07:13 AM         

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*takes breath* you talk of unhealth and cult like behavior and then admit you drink blood. Man, that is some weird and freaky stuff right there. I think you should give it a bone and concentrate on your own site. I guess it is hard though as it seems you have so much time on your hands.

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posted November 11, 2003 05:00 PM         

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Sanctimoniuos tree hugging cowards like you would think it's freaky. As for it being unhealthy, it is not. And if you know how to read I already explained why. Care to come back with anthing more intelligent? But that is something that really lacks here huh? The stupid threads are intertaining at best, but intellectual debate should be avoided here at all times! Well, this is my last say on this topic. I can't tolerate stupidity. I ask about certain beliefs and no one can answer without attacking and bringing up mine. It is because no one here has answers to thier blind beliefs. So just like the typical fundamentalist christian, you won't answer questions about your beliefs without attacking the person in front of you. How typical.

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posted November 11, 2003 08:13 PM         

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Well succubus, you totally generalize when you come on this thread and tell everyone they worship Linda, etc. I know many of these people have a higher power and it is NOT Linda and whatever people beleive is there business anywho, just like your blood drinking is your own business. And trust me, I would like to tell you how blood drinking reminds me of Waco and nonsense more, but, I'm wierd and open minded and would try anything once. However, if you want people to not stereotype you perhaps you should grant us all the same courtesy (there's a novel idea!)

And yes people here ask questions which is why our threads are long, because people debate constantly, there are many many different opinions floating around here. This example that you keep using about Linda being the messiah is your own exaggeration anyhow, so know that you can't even find something to make fun on, you have to totally exaggerate.

IMHO Linda was human and died and left some awesome teachings for us. I don't agree at all with a lot of things she wrote, I think even she knew she would declare things and later realize perhaps that wasn't true. That's the sign of a smart person, someone who can change their stubborn views.

And don't say you are just coming here and asking questions, you are being mean, what is so horribly wrong in your life that you want to come and rain on someone's else's parade???????

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posted November 11, 2003 08:14 PM         

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And I am not a treehugger!

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posted November 12, 2003 03:34 AM         

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Suc, you can dish it out but can't take it, huh?

I personally find it difficult to believe that the deviant sexual fetish of drinking human blood is Spiritual in any way, but at least I try to show you the respect of listening to you with an open mind. Why can't you show others here the same courtesy? The only thing you've done is make fun of all of us, although I'm glad we could amuse you (you probably need the attention). I wish I could say that your rants have amused us in reciprocal fashion; sadly, that has not been the case.

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posted November 12, 2003 05:16 AM         

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Oh Randall and others,
why do you bother? Ignore her and that's that

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posted November 12, 2003 05:37 AM         

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I'll opt to take your advice, Morgana. And what is wrong with hugging a tree?

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posted November 12, 2003 12:39 PM         

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Randall:
"Suc, you can dish it out but can't take it, huh?"

Sure I can! lol I'm not the one getting my panties in a bunch.

Randall:
"I personally find it difficult to believe that the deviant sexual fetish of drinking human blood is Spiritual in any way,"

What is deviant? And how do you determine what is and what is not deviant? Christianity? The bible? Society's "rules?" Living your life going by these sexually repressed rules is pathetic in my opinion.
What makes blood drinking not spiritual? Please back up what you say. You never do!Sharing blood with a loving partner is a symbolic sacrifice you make for that person. The life energy is also in the blood. You tree huggers should know that! lol

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posted November 12, 2003 02:53 PM         

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I just told some people I know that I am apparantly a sanctimonious tree hugging coward (or at least in league with one) who never asks questions, but instead just follows blindly into cult-like scenarios which have Linda as messiah. Also I'm just like fundamentalist Christians because I won't justify all my ideas and beliefs immediately upon demand. One poor guy laughed so hard he almost choked.

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posted November 12, 2003 03:57 PM         

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<sigh>

This thread is beginning to look like politics to me...

"My way is better than YOUR way!"
"My thoughts are smarter than YOUR thoughts!"
"My religion is better than YOUR religion!"
"My heroes are better than YOUR heroes!"
"My country is better than YOUR country!"
"MY beliefs are right, YOURS are wrong!"

Here's a question: What do you get when two children fight over a sandbox?

Answer: Two dead kids and a broken sandbox.
(and nobody gets to play...)

<off to drink some blood and hug a tree>

anessene

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posted November 12, 2003 06:39 PM         

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succubus sounds like a very unhappy person. u can plainly tell that a part of her/him wants to believe the higher truth but the programmed brain is refusing for the most part. poor poor suckie. (i mean that in a nice sympathetic way..really)

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posted November 12, 2003 09:04 PM         

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Anasenne I beg to differ. Succubus is doing the name calling and we are defending.

nothing is wrong with tree hugging Randall! I just said that because I would rather hug people but I'm fully supportive of treehuggers too!!

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posted November 13, 2003 01:05 AM         

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"succubus sounds like a very unhappy person. u can plainly tell that a part of her/him wants to believe the higher truth but the programmed brain is refusing for the most part. poor poor suckie. (i mean that in a nice sympathetic way..really)"

Just because I don't believe what you believe, makes me an unhappy person?? This is exactly the behavior that I'm talking about! You're no better than those fundamentalist Xtians who go around claiming that people are unhappy or condemned to hell because others don't convert to their beliefs! Thank you for proving my point. How typical.

This thread is called, "WHY DID LINDA DIE?" it has nothing to do with Vampirism. If anyone here wants to talk about that, have the courtesy to start another thread instead of cluttering up this one! The moderators here don't really contribute much by jumping on the bandwagon, do they? Does anyone have the courage, common sense or intelligence to answer my original question on this topic??? I guess not.

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posted November 13, 2003 01:21 AM         

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Maybe that's because you didn't ask the question in a respectful and genuinely inquiring manner, but you instead chose to ridicule us.

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posted November 13, 2003 05:01 AM         

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I can't see why you would consider my original question disrespectful. You got upset because I questioned your beliefs, period. If you want to continue this discussion, someone opened up another thread. It's really pathetic how this thread got cluttered with nonesense and you are the big contributer in cluttering up this thread.
It's not really fair for the person who started the topic. Tsk Tsk "webmaster." lol

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posted November 13, 2003 09:38 AM         

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namecalling... defending...

(still sounds like politics to me )

feeling the urge to defend your beliefs is still imposing them on others, ya know

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