posted December 25, 2003 06:32 PM         

Randall.. well I have The Lion Path, and have looked through it on occasion, but not for many years... I seem to recall it was a tad complicated, and at the time I didn't have sufficient patience to work through it. (Fire being fairly prominent in my nativity, don't ya know)

It is winking out at me from my office bookshelf as I write this, but at this point in time, I think I've missed whatever cycle was supposed to be used in order to attain Immortality. I seem to recall something about a certain time frame in which certain meditations had to be performed? Am I remembering correctly?

Any light you can shed would be appreciated.

Bright Yule Blessings...
A

posted December 28, 2003 04:48 PM         

Yes simplify she did, and putting the thought of Immortality out there was certainly courageous in the extreme.

When one reads Marie Corelli closely there are hints to be found, but certainly she implied there was a bit more to it than simply desiring (hrmm, a Scorpio keyword) it to be so.

There is a certain amount, I believe, of occult teaching that is necessary in order to transmute (there's that Pluto word again) the death dealing forces into Life generating forces, though, yes, I belive an unswerving faith is certainly the first step. One Teacher has gone so far as to say that the same forces that are responsible for removing the old and worn out cells etc, are exactly the same forces responsible for prolonging the Life... and I do believe that this is so.

Since reading Chapter Nine, and certainly not before... it seems that information on the prolongation of Physical Life has "magically" found its way into my hands. Certainly there was Marie Corelli, but then the work of Dr. Paul Foster Case, Deepak Chopra and even a clairvoyance training with a woman named Sharon Turner propounded the possibility/reality of Physical Immortality.

So, does it sing of Possibility to my Inner Ear.. resoundingly YES! Do I believe that the process has more than a passing connection to the True Alchemy (there's that Pluto thing again), most certainly! Have I yet met an Immortal? Well, not to my knowledge, but I certainly look forward with anticipation to such a meeting... I have many, many questions!

In the Light...
A

posted December 29, 2003 09:02 PM         

Love and Light,
Love everyones thoughts also,
Dean.

posted January 03, 2004 04:10 PM         

http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/linda1.htm

posted January 03, 2004 04:49 PM         

I have the Astrodatabank program, and have cast the chart with 4/10/25 date and it still seems wrong to me, having known Linda.

It's source was quoted as "from memory" and it was rated as "A" date, meaning that the source was considered accurate.

However, given Linda's penchant for disinformation, the fact that Neptune was directly on the Ascendant would be a clue that there were or would be some "veils of uncertainty or illusion" about this chart.

Linda was keen on playing little games... for example, a telephone number that she included in the numerology section of Star Signs was in fact her actual telephone number sans the area code.

It is a common practice amongst a certain school of astrologers to give out false information about their own charts. Why? One of my Teachers said it like this: "If they know you are a Cancer and they have a problem with Cancers, then they will tend to judge you on that bit of information. Any help you may be as an astrologer could be undermined in this way." Sounds like plain old prejudice based on Sign rather than ethnic background, but there is an element of truth to it. Generally the type of person to consult an astrologer, would believe in the science, and tend to make decisions in large part based on their understanding.

I dunno... I'm still thinking the 4/9/25 date is more accurate. But, like the number of licks it takes to get to the chewy center of a Tootsie Pop... the world may never know!

In the Light...
A

posted January 04, 2004 05:28 PM         

or vote here...

posted January 27, 2004 09:10 PM         

4/09/1925

Shortly before or after 6 am.

posted January 28, 2004 07:50 PM         

What makes me so certain is that I have simply placed the planets in the houses where they seem to fit.

Saturn in the 7th---fits
Moon in the 7th---fits
Neptune in the 5th---fits
Mars in the 2nd---fits
Uranus in the 12th---fits
Pluto in the 4th---fits
Jupiter in the 10th---fits
Even Venus in the 12th---right before the Asc---fits

I'm just not sure if the Sun is in the 12th or the 1st~~~i'm leaning more towards 1st house with the Asc. somewhere around 18 degrees Aries, of course.

I figured all this out a long time ago~~~probably around '94

posted January 28, 2004 08:26 PM         

Welcome Sartai...

I'd go with the Sun in First House myself. I've sort of rectified the chart to about 14/15 degrees of Aries Rising ... and using Campanus House System (my choice of the Quadrant Systems when I'm not looking at the Equal House Chart) Taurus is Intercepted in the First. That would also put Venus, planet of Love smack dab on herself's Ascendant. I think that pretty well fits.

That's the chart I've been considering most strongly since about 1989.

But as I say.. it's merely speculation at this point.

In the Light...
A

posted January 28, 2004 08:30 PM         

Hmmmm~~~

Nice twist on that one, I'll have to run yours through~~~

posted January 29, 2004 05:19 PM         

Very interesting take~~~

I still say that Venus is in the 12th house, a poem in one of her books of poetry...And given the relationship she and Sam had-then add Brewer to it...

I never considered the Campanus system, I prefer the Placidus

posted January 30, 2004 12:31 PM         

Yes, Sartai that would correctly reflect the Campanus chart.

Generally speaking I use the Equal House system to give me a picture of the Soul, as it is in its natural state, where all things are equal.

I use a Quadrant House system to show what happens to that Soul, when it Incarnates into the third dimensional realm... where, unfortuanately, not all things are equal.

My choice of Campanus reflects my own research and practice in Astrology, and works very well for me on a symbolic level... and it seems to show fairly sensitive intermediate cusps as well; generally I find at least ONE planet on a Campanus cusp that is very telling... to me, more so than Placidus. But as always, one must adhere to what works for them.

As to Venus in the 12th or first? Well, that Venus is fairly afflicted regardless of whether it be in the first or the 12th. She opposes the Moon in Libra, squares the Jupiter, last passed over Uranus, and is certainly what the Ancient astrologers called "Combust The Sun". She has recently separated from a square to Pluto, and is not particularly powerful in Aries, where she is in detriment by virtue of her rulership in Libra. It is also just past the Inconjunct of retrograde Saturn in Scorpio (in the 7th of marriage) as well, and I find that fairly telling... wouldn't you agree? Her best aspect is a trine to Neptune, and I'm not convinced that would be sufficient to salvage the other afflictions as Neptune is retrograde and not particularly well placed in Leo.

Personally I think that would be enough to spoil her love life after a fashion, but that it is conjunct the Ascendant would certainly explain her pleasant physical appearance and also her intense fascination and belief in the power of Love. That Venus is trine to Neptune would certainly account for her poetic and spiritual take on Love and also her fiery and yet mystical/psychic connections with particular Lions in her life...

Again, just my opinion... I think it works either way. But as I always say, it's a good exercise in thinking astrologically!

In the Light...
A