posted July 06, 2007 05:28 PM         

and get the same kinds of answers from people. Still it doesnt make sense.

posted July 07, 2007 03:53 AM         

Thank you for replying.

Actually Mak originally asked the question,
"Why do people have children?"
and i just repeated it.

I like your answers. Yes, those are some of the reasons people give me.

"Why dont you want children?"

When you see through enough of this experience we call 'life', i dont know how you could then consciously bring an illusory baby into the picture of it of it all.

Maybe to make myself feel like someone else's God or Guru.

No thank you.

I have enough to learn still myself. Nevermind bringing in another azz to cart around and then having to wipe up after it too.

Something stinks. It all seems so selfish and egotistical.

Just another "thing" people want to add into their lives to try and complete it. "Beautiful." They are hoping that's the answer that might bring them that perfection or missing peice they so desire and cant seem to find anywhere else.

Maybe it's a lack of self-love? That's a good hidden excuse. Or laziness, not wanting to do any inner work on themselves. Thinking they are now ready to teach another a thing or two about 'life'. So wise.

Does having children ensnare you more into this karmic 3-d world because of that act? Does making that choice, lock you in moreso? The love you have for this 'person', and the karma you create together, does it keep you tied here on this earth plane even longer? ...i imagine most would say they dont care.

Look at the sages through the ages. Which ones had children? Which ones didnt? Why?

It's not a judgement here. Do Karma Yoga. Be a 'householder' and still reach enlightenment. It's just not my path. Doesnt feel right. I couldnt bring a child into this hell hole of a "world" and feel good about it.

How do you teach someone anything about something you dont beleive in truly yourself?

When you transcend your lower, base, dense, gross chakras and sexual desires...when they just drop, how can you have children anyway?

When you realize *you* are not even "here" how can you bring a baby in???

You think these 'people' surrounding you are 'real'. They are reflections. And i dont need to give birth to another mirror. Honestly. Ive got all i can handle trying to "see" myself on my own.

Why complicate Matter(s)
even more?

posted July 07, 2007 04:33 AM         

i'll be pregnant in a year.

posted July 07, 2007 04:53 AM         

Aging well.....

Nope. Dont think it's completely physically possible.

Though people will kidd themselves into thinking so.

What's Time-less, ageless?

posted July 07, 2007 04:29 PM         

one is, i can see how people might need a child in their life as a vehicle to know or experience a higher love. without which might never take place.

to each their own.

posted July 08, 2007 09:03 PM         

Great toughts, thank you.

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All spiritual practices are illusions created by illusionists to escape illusion.

posted July 10, 2007 12:12 PM         

don't mean to derail the thread, but this isn't true :

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perhaps you would be wondering why you don't get to eat meat like the first world countries do

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posted July 10, 2007 01:36 PM         

i responded to this statement ~

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If I lived in India where vegetarianism is more common and not so controversial I wouldn't be sitting here wondering why I chose it.

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posted July 10, 2007 02:57 PM         

Agreed... I know a few people like that too.
My thoughts in that other post were that if your body is aging, no matter how well or slow you might be doing it, you are still aging. It's part of what our bodies go through on this plane. But I agree that people can sometimes feel better physically in old age than they did in youth. Depending on how they are taking care of their Mind (and body). There's a lot to be said about the effects of work done on spiritualizing the material...

I'm a Capricorn rising w/ Aquarius intercepted in the first house, Uranus conjunct Scorpio Midheaven, if that tells you anything.

You seem like you are strongly influenced by Uranus and Saturn...?

posted July 10, 2007 03:21 PM         

When i was a kid i used to think i wouldnt mind having a baby....if i could skip over the "baby part". A six or seven year old would be nice...but that would hurt.

When i see families out and about with their babies or children all i can think is, "heeelll no."

People often say things like, "oh come on, youre young. someday you'll want children, you'll see.", "it's just because of what youve been through with your own family." as if everyone is supposed to have kids or their life can't be complete. Like "what is wrong with you? ...not wanting children! Oh dear, poor thing!"

Strange.

Or they think you really dont like kids and only say you do to try and look nice.

I know these thoughts wont make me too popular with the breeders of the world. Still others might see it as acting Responsibly or living consciously.

My opinions are strong on this subject. Most of them I dont care to share here.

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Kiddies: most people who "love" them should probably get one of those realistic dolls that never grow up: people always say "I want a baby", never say "I want an adolescent"

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