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posted July 20, 2002 12:11 AM         

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Hi long time no talk everyone, i just wanted to inform everyone at this board about ki and its special purposes on your life. I have been learning and using ki for 1 year and 6 months now and it has greatly improved my focus concentration and anger management, when you learn ki you also learn to meditate so that you can harness this energy that is hidden inside each and everyone one of us. I will give everyone a little excercise to try out so that they can find their ki and get into a more relaxed state, this technique is called the 4 count breath. The 4 count breath is done as follows inhale through nose 1-2-3-4 hold 1-2-3-4 exhale through mouth 1-2-3-4. I hope that you all enjoy it and you can learn more of ki from my own personal webpage that teaches everyone the basics and more advanced applications of ki
you can get to it by going to http://www.trunxchi.cjb.net Hope to see some new people there, and for a direct link to my message board go to http://pub84.ezboard.com/btrunxchishouseofchi and when you go to the message board be sure to read the rules in the FORUM RULES please.

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posted July 20, 2002 01:52 AM         

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Thanks, Jacob! Ki (or Chi) is something that could make us miracle workers if we learned to harness it, and the best part of all is that it is free and never runs out!

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posted July 20, 2002 01:53 AM         

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Hi Jacob
I know all about ki, training Aikido you learn about it and there is even a Ki exercise called Funikogi. Basically you stand with your feet in a basic stance and rock forward with your entire body from your centre, around the navel (this is where Ki is supposed to originate from inthe human body) and then at the last moment you send your arms forward in front of your centre and at the same time expel air from your lungs, then you just rock back to the original starting position and breathe in at the same time...also known as the boat rowing exercise. I've only experienced true Ki once as there are two forms...ordinary Ki is coarse and dense, true Ki is light and versatile, from the teachings of Morihei Uyeshiba; and it was very powerful and I felt like a puppet not having control of my body until it had finished with me. But there are also people who train in Aikido that have no belief in it and think it's all bunk. Each to their own.

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posted July 20, 2002 06:56 AM         

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Randall, it is very easy to start harnessing Ki!

We usually derive our Ki from the food, air and sunlight. However, Reiki is a form of Ki which comes directly from the Spiritual Dimensions.

Reiki is a Japanese word, and is made up of the following smaller words:
Rei: Universal, Present Everywhere, Mysterious, Transcendental
Ki: The Ki (or Chi) we already know.

Just learn Reiki and you will be able to fill yours-elf and others with Ki!

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posted July 20, 2002 11:21 AM         

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Wow, Mambo and Elohim! Great thoughts! This is a very interesting Topic!

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posted July 20, 2002 11:46 PM         

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I have heard of reiki, though i dont know much about it, I hope that everyone here enjoys my site and truly finds enlightenment in your path to learning ki. I leave you all with a saying that will one day be a famous quote by me. "The path that leads to enlightenment is always the hardest to find but with great patience, honor, and determination one will soon find that path to enlightenment."

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posted July 21, 2002 08:53 PM         

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Everyone should really look into this subject and this energy type, chi is a very amazing type of energy that is within every single human being waiting to be discovered, and when you do discover this energy and learn to use it your life will be much better in the long run. You will have much more energy than you originally had, you will feel energized and sometimes light as a feather and above all you will feel completely at peace with yourself and other beings. So I encourage everyone here to take a look at my site and experience chi for yourselves today you can reach my site at www.trunxchi.cjb.net you will like what you find and learn there. Until then fellow knowflakes, "may your journeys bring you happiness in what ever you find."

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posted July 21, 2002 11:13 PM         

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How fast does Chi (Ki) travel across miles?

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posted July 21, 2002 11:30 PM         

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ki is in the infared light range, and it travels at the speed of light but we cannot see it because the frequency of it is not in the visible light range but in ifrared, so one would have to condense their ki and pack as much energy into the wave that they can make and then release it. It moves at incredible speeds, and if strong enough can knock over objects. I hope that this explains it for you randall and answers your question. Go in peace everyone. Elohim contact me if possible on aol im s/n jacob5689

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posted July 22, 2002 12:16 AM         

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posted July 22, 2002 12:27 AM         

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there is one more thing that i should mention about ki, it may be endless but you cannot use it forever and you can use too much at one time and strain your body and have what is called a burnout, when this happens you should rest for as long as possible until your body recooperates. When you have a burnout it feels just like if you had one lifting weights, and it is not very pleasant to have one, because i have had one so far and its something that i hope no one encounters while learning ki.

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posted July 22, 2002 12:40 AM         

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Interesting! I wonder if Reiki practitioners experience similar burnout?

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posted July 22, 2002 03:39 AM         

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Although I've heard some Reiki channels claim they feel very drained after a sitting, personally, I've never felt this. Since I'm not passing on my own energy but only channeling it from the universal source, I don't see why I would.
Infact, it energises me since the energy I'm passing on passes through my own chakras first.
Having said that, I do know it's just as possible to have an over-energised chakra as an under-energised one. So balance is important...as always. That's the only way I think a burn-out or draining of energy of some sort is possible.
Elohim, you'd be the right person to ask about this.

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posted July 22, 2002 08:21 AM         

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The Ki that I know, originates from the Universe and when you train in Aikido you are supposed to train with a open hand as this facilitates the Ki rushing through your your body and out through your hands, if it is closed it is stifled. The other thing about Ki which Jacob talked about was a powerful force of energy...there is a martial art that uses Ki through the power of KIAI, the shout that many people associate with Karaté when striking or kicking, and this is something that Uyeshiba apparently trained in. It is apparently so powerful that you don't even have to touch an opponent because the Ki that comes from the shout is enough to floor the opponent. I personally haven't experienced this but through my training I have noticed that when you are fully committed to an attack and your opponent does a Kiai, your brain just shuts down and your attack becomes null and void...it is only a matter of nano seconds but your power has completely left you and your at the mercy of your opponent, there is more to Ki than I know about but it happens at the most unlikely of times.

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posted July 22, 2002 08:42 AM         

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Thanks, Aquamoon! Mambo, that is fascinating!

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posted July 22, 2002 04:28 PM         

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Very interesting indeed, i have once done a kiap and when i did a great amount of heat and wind came off of my body. It was the weirdest thing that i ever felt but also very cool.

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posted July 23, 2002 11:23 AM         

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Sorry guys,I have not been around much lately!

You are right aquamoon ~ I too have NEVER felt burnout. Reiki doesn't come from me, but from a universal source, so there is no question of my losing any energy. I am just a conduit for bringing down the enrgy from the heavens, and making it available to the 'healee'. This is why Reiki practioners call thems-elves Reiki 'channels', and not 'healers'.

Moreover, when Reiki passes through me, it heals me too. So, even if I was already 'drained', I would feel refreshed after sending Reiki to someone. I really have felt this nearly everytime I make healing available to others.

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posted July 23, 2002 05:13 PM         

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Thanks for clarifying the difference, Elohim!

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posted July 24, 2002 01:44 AM         

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Interesting indeed, maybe i need to learn that, cuz i do traditional and what some people call radical ki(ki used for attacks) and i got burnout once, but i do not get it anymore, my ki just seems to grow and grow even when im not using it.

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posted July 25, 2002 11:54 PM         

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I am going to try and learn reiki when i get a chance if i can find any good information.

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posted July 26, 2002 12:39 AM         

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I think Reiki has to be learned directly through a Teacher. Am I right, Elohim?

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posted July 26, 2002 08:33 PM         

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A friend of mine has completed the first stage/degree?, of reiki from a master and she said this was quite reasonable.It took her approx 1 year but that was due to time and financial restaints. I can't remember what she called it, I think she is a practitioner but she said to become a master it would cost thousands.

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posted July 27, 2002 02:32 PM         

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Yes, Randall ~ Reiki has to be learned from a teacher. One cannot learn it by ones-elf (e.g., by reading books), because there is an Initiation involved, which can be done only by a teacher. During this initiation, the teacher opens some chakras in your body after which Reiki can flow through you.

There are some teachers who belive (or claim) that they can initiate you into Reiki from a distance. This is incorrect, because the Long-Distance Initiation opens only the chakras in your aura, not your physical body. For initiation to actually work, it has to be done in-person.

And yes ~ in Reiki too, 'when the student is ready, the teacher will appear'. Just strongly desire the best possible Reiki connection for yours-elf, and the teacher meant for you will soon manifest in your life.

mambo, you are right ~ stages in Reiki are called 'degrees'. We have "1st degree", "2nd degree", "3A" and "3B".

For most Reiki channels, 2nd degree is considered sufficient. With it, one can heal not only ones-elf, but also others, and can send healing across space and time.

The third degree (teacher) is meant only for those who wish to assume the position and the accompanying responsibility of a teacher. You don't have to learn it. And fees for the third degree are ususally quite high, to ascertain the degree (no pun intended) of committment of the student to be a teacher.

Tradtionally, there was only one 3rd level. The 3A degree is for those who wish to increase their healing powers ithout assuing the responsibility of a teacher. The teacher degree is now called 3B.

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posted July 29, 2002 07:46 PM         

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Thanks, Elohim!

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posted July 30, 2002 12:17 AM         

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Thank you that clears some things up now, though it would be hard for me to find a teacher that teaches reiki, i want to find a school though for capoeira so that i can learn more of that so that i can defend myself really well if needed, or learn shaolin kungfu.

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