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From: Mississippi
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posted September 10, 2002 07:31 AM         

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I have been around this site pretty much since the beginning....coming from the Endless Path. I missed the first few months because this site was quietly growing. It was somewhat hushed because of Randalls respect for his friend Dan, the moderator of the Endless Path. I have not said alot on alot of things because I'm often sticking my foot in mouth and I did not want to be taken the wrong way. Today that changes. I hope all who read this understand that what I have to say is out of love even though it may not come across that way. I pretty much have no business sticking my nose here because I do not have all the facts. I have tried to go back and read some of the things that people have said trying to piece it all together. I disappeared for a while having my own personal hell to deal with. When I came back I knew something was wrong but it seemed like it had blown over. I did however notice that a lot of people were gone but did not question why. I did not know that they had gone to a new site because I'm sure they wanted to have respect for Randall. When I first came here it was because I wanted to be with people who felt like me(even though it's hard for me to express)and was trying to find the way. I've learned so much here and can not believe that we have forgotten what love is. Linda herself failed her twin(the one she loved the most)so often that eventually he had to show her tough love. I suppose in that sense that is what is happening to all of us here. But there is no love here. All I see is the people that I've grown to know showing another side. I should not be surprised because we all want to show our best side to people. Once again my naivity is showing. I'm shocked. I have listened to these people for so long that my heart broke in tu-uo(2) at some of the hurtful things. The one that made me cry was when YIVY3 on TSP said that Jesus would have dusted his shoes off this place a long time ago. Sweet YIVY? Tell me this is not the same person who I so intensely listened to. When Jesus was on trial, he smiled at his accusers. Not out of mockery but love. In this I yet again am reminded that I have a long way to go to follow in his shoes. Dirt or none. YIVY I am sorry to throw your name around so but you will never know how disappointed I was to read those words. I am human and still do not hear 'my' song. I NEED people to help me. I need a crutch sometimes because I can not do it alone. Everyday my passionate(another word for hothead)nature gets the best of me as I rant about the injustices of the world. I can not tell you how many times I've had to hang my head and slowly(so slowly) say the words, "I'm sorry". Or worse, go to say I'm sorry only to say something else idiotic and find myself screaming again. The whole time in my head yelling, "Wait, no I didn't mean that." But when I try to find the words, I open my mouth and vile words ooze out. What can you do but say you're sorry when you stick your foot in your mouth?......NOTHING....There are no take backs. There's no eraser handy to wipe those things away. You do the best with what you have left. You go from now and make later better. If someone refuses your appology do you recant? Then your appology was not sincere to begin with. There are no conditions to be forgiven. You messed up, you didn't ask them if you could insult/lie/embarrass/cheat/yell....whatever at them before you did it, so your rights(for the moment) have been tossed aside. But on the same token, how hard is it to say your sorry, sometimes even if you feel like you were not wrong? I'm sorry are the hardest words for me and sometimes they get stuck in my throat. I don't say it because I like to admit I'm wrong. I do it because I know that somehow/somewhere we are both right. How do I know why that person did what they did? Lessons aren't handed to you on a silver platter with a little sweet note explaining everything. Lessons are nasty vile things that we all hate and yet they are the only things that make us learn. Not all lessons are bad but face it, as humans we learn fastest through negative response. We can be told but only by touching the stove do we UNDERSTAND. (ohhh, I see, as our little fingers burn) I am not asking for reconciliation of the 2 sites(but it would be nice)......no wait...YES I AM. We need each other. You can have the greatest mind in the world but if no one ever tells us that and only puts us down, do you think we will ever know? Only recently have I started to understand how special I am and that is only because all of the sudden I have people around to remind me. Please reconsider and remember that it is not always easy to say what we truely feel because our brain/pride gets in the way. I do not believe that there is one single thing in the universe that is all bad. How can this be? If God is all then we are part of all. I get laughed at and critized for this alot...along with saving bugs at work and giving the homeless money, even when I smell alcohol on their breath. It does not matter to me because this time might be the time. And if I was not there to give them another chance then who would? Someone else? I AM that someone else. I have not registered on the spiral path yet but only because of time....as of now I am putting off a promise but only because I feel that this must be said. I KNOW that what I say is the truth and no matter who gets mad I will stand by my words. I do believe that the truth should be spoken and understand why some of you are mad. But I also see Randalls side. When he started this site he vowed to keep love flowing and under, I'm sure very stressful conditions, kept that promise. What would you do if you were in his shoes? I hope someone passes this message over to the spiral path and all come here to read....good or bad.

Thank you for spending the time to read this.......

Signed,
Heals Hurts(my name)

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posted September 10, 2002 11:59 AM         

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There are no words...

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posted September 10, 2002 12:35 PM         

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Then do one thing, instead of touching the stove, jump into it. You will UNDERSTAND a lot.

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posted September 10, 2002 03:28 PM         

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No words whatsoever ......

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posted September 10, 2002 11:39 PM         

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ON A CLEAR DAY YOU CAN SEE FOREVER.

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posted September 11, 2002 12:25 AM         

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With 9-11 So close, 4 min. away... I'm saddened yet again over the hate and refusal to understand one another... You dislike this person for some reason, but if you were in their shoes, how would you feel...? I do believe that it was Linda who said something about the circle of Karma. In this life, what I do to you, you do to me in the next, and so on, and so on, UNTIL someone breaks the chain, thus starting a new circle of Karma. I am 21 and I understand the moment of Glory one feels when they one up someone, Get the last word... It makes me feel like I'm BETTER than them. But in all actuality, they are the better person, in such that they didn't try to be better than I...
The Past is just that, past us, the future is not quite upon us, The present is now... What we do now, reflects on what we've done in the past, paving the way into our future. If we don't do something NOW about the hate and making people feel less than we feel we are, than the future will be no better for our kids, only worse... I don't want my kids to have to worry about what I did and do... I've noticed that kids were terribly cruel when I was in school. I did not quite realize that THEY HAD LEARNED IT FROM SOMEBODY. Half the time it's from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents....The other half of the time, it's from T.V., Music, and Movies... EVEN DISNEY HAS VIOLENCE IN THEIR MOVIES!!!!!!! When had violence became so much of our everyday life... Hate is going to destroy us, but not enough people seem to care enough to try to change things... Even Eminem cares. He's gone from bashing homosexuals and women, to singing a song for his child and his mother, WHO, BTW, SUED HIM FOR CLAIMING IN ONE OF HIS SONGS SHE WAS A DRUG ABUSER... How much more does this woman want than a song writen saying he's sorry? To everyone out there, I'm sorry for every wrong doing I've done to you in this life and the last lives I've had...maybe if we'd give peace and understanding more of a chance, life wouldn't be so hard to deal with.....

Tessa

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posted September 14, 2002 10:34 AM         

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Hey Raines,

Sorry to hear about your dog. I hope you are doing fine. When are you ever going to finish your story?

YAM

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From: Mississippi
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posted September 14, 2002 06:52 PM         

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YAM, How the heck are you? I'm pretty good...still ticking. Thanks about Kenyan, I miss him terribly. The story.....I've been thinking alot (as usual) about it lately and I promise to finish it before the year 3005. I'm trying but I will try harder. Thanks for the push.
Been thinking of you lately and hope all is well.

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posted September 15, 2002 06:11 PM         

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There is a helluva lot of history here that people like me no nothing about.Would someone fill me in?I think this needs to be in the open.

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posted September 15, 2002 07:53 PM         

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Dear Raines, As a newcomer to the Linda Goodman site, I am unaware of all the "his-tory," or is it "her-story?"
I dont really want to go back and find out.
I take people as I find them, and that is good enough for me. People come in and out of our lives, and we learn a lesson from each one. Maybe I am getting old, 68 last birthday, but one thing I have learned is that I can only be hurt if I let myself be hurt. I make a conscious decision not to be. If that is how people are, let them be, they have much to learn. Send them love and light, visualise yourself, enveloped in pure white light, it is an armour, you know that Eve loves you and all is well. Any harmful arrows, they just turn back to the sender. I didnt expect to find anything less than unconditional love here, but if it is conditional, then that is the lesson that is to be learned.
You will be tested, but you do know in your heart that every lesson learned, is one you chose to learn. A friend of mine couldnt understand that some had left this forum, but I put that down to the lessons. As I said, people come into and out of your life. It isnt the worst thing that they are gone, but that you forget the good things they did, and come to realise that they have more to learn too, and that it might not be here. This is sent with love and hugs, let go of any hurt, what is the pay-off if you hold on to it? Gather all the hurts in your life, and see them each as a grain of sand, get a handful of sand, think of the hurts, then throw them away. Do you have crystals that need to be cleansed? just a thought,
once again, love and hugs, from so very far away, down under fuchela.

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posted September 15, 2002 08:05 PM         

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Welcome aboard, Fuchela ... I'm 402, mysElf

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posted September 15, 2002 11:31 PM         

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very well put. I've been cleaning out my closet so to speak. How do you cleanse a crystal?

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posted September 16, 2002 04:22 PM         

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Dear Raines, to cleanse crystals, you can leave them to have fresh rain on them, or if you are near the sea, wash them on an incoming tide. love and hugs fuchela.

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posted September 16, 2002 05:18 PM         

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Thanks!! I will try that.

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posted September 23, 2002 10:16 AM         

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What Raines said! (in her first post on this string)

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posted December 26, 2002 11:43 PM         

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posted December 27, 2002 01:16 AM         

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I'm another one of the people who (at the time) wanted the sites to remain together. Since the last time this issue was publicly discussed, a lot has changed. I did attempt to be neutral, but it was not easy. I might as well have asked a cat to bark. Now that's it's over with, I can only hope issues like these will remain completely private in the future. Who knows how many potential Knowflakes were turned away by certain threads?
Ah, but it's useless to elaborate on things that can't be changed. The most anyone can do is look towards the future and Love as much as possible in the present. The certain threads I was talking about before aside, Lindaland has a really positive, spiritual vibe. As long as future events like the one discussed in this thread remain private, the future of Lindaland is filled with Love and glory.

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posted December 27, 2002 01:18 AM         

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to love and glory

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posted December 28, 2002 12:20 AM         

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Amor vincit omnia

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posted January 08, 2003 04:52 PM         

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what does that mean?

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posted January 08, 2003 05:15 PM         

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Greetings...

It means: LOVE CONQUERS ALL

Blessings...
A

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posted January 10, 2003 05:07 AM         

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Thankyou.

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posted January 22, 2003 07:42 PM         

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Are you ever going to finish your story?

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