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Jaqueline
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posted January 04, 2003 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I read the book 18 months ago and I just can't remember if his b-day was mentioned...


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Carlo
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posted January 04, 2003 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
yeah Vampi, what's the dealio yo?

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Vampire Angel
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posted January 04, 2003 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vampire Angel     Edit/Delete Message
It was in the book! I've only read the first little bit of the Fellowship, and I remember it mentioned that Frodo's birthday was the same as Bilbo's, which was the 22nd of September. I'm not hallucinating!

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QueenofSheeba
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posted January 05, 2003 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
I think VA is right, but remember that Tolkien knew nothing about astrology. Maybe the astrological calendar was different back then?

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Jaqueline
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posted January 05, 2003 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Queen...VA is right

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Vampire Angel
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posted January 05, 2003 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vampire Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Hehe. Yay. So it's not just me. *wipes sweat off brow* I don't think the astrological calendar was "different" back then...I mean, that would sort of defeat the purpose of the accuracy *and* consistency of astrology... , so I guess we'll just assume that the original Frodo, free from the influence of Elijah Wood's dreamy Piscean eyes, was a Virgo. (Or would that make him a Libra? I'm not quite sure.) It's also interesting that him and Bilbo were both born on a "Master Number" date -- 22 -- which is connected with great karmic obligations, right? Plus the singular number is a 4, which is connected with hard karma as well -- I should know, I'm a 4 too. Hehe.

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Twin Lady
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posted January 05, 2003 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twin Lady     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, here's my "take" on some of the LOTR characters:

Frodo: Staying with the birthdate in the book, Libra/Virgo, but with Moon or Ascendant in Pisces...I see more Pisces than anything else.

Sam: Cancer (the cook, and looks after Frodo), with a Scorpio Moon (very suspicious, first of Strider/Aragorn, then Gollum, and incredibly loyal to Frodo)

Aragorn: Libra (he's GORGEOUS! And soft-spoken, charming to the ladies, yet the Cardinal leadership is obvious too); with strong Scorpio or Aries as well (brave and tireless warrior)

Gandalf: I see him as a highly evolved Gemini. He has much knowledge and wisdom borne of experience, yet a sense of fun (remember the fireworks from the Fellowship of the Ring?). Maybe something in Scorpio too since he confronted and went into the pit with the Balrog, returning in the Two Towers transformed.

Legolas: My daughter insists he is a Sagittarian because of his talents with the bow and arrow. I'm not sure, but I remember feeling glad that he was always there to help - - with no need for glory - - Virgo maybe?

Gimli: He strikes me as Taurus; very down to earth, a lover of beautiful things (mines of Moria), and a tough, loyal little guy.

Gollum: A Gemini-gone-wrong! Poor, schizophrenic wretch who lost his mind over his "precioussss" (something afflicted in Taurus or Scorpio too)

Arwen: Could be Pisces with maybe a Cancer Moon. Willing to sacrifice her immortality for love, and keeps the homefires burning while her man is away?

Eowyn: I think she's Aries. Attracted to Aragorn her opposite (if he's Libra) and not content to stay home but be involved in the fighting.

Sauraman: Another Gemini-gone-bad. He used all his once-good wisdom and power for evil deeds. When watching Sauraman and Gandalf, I always see each a perfect example of the extremes of Gemini energies. (The fact that both actors who portray these 2 characters happen to be Gemini as well, helps, I'm sure.) lol

Sauron: Yes...a Taurus at its worst.

Galadriel: Virgo with Leo Moon? Just a guess.

Elrond: Aquarius? A tough one for me.

I know I missed a few, but this post has gotten way too long, lol.

Any thoughts on the signs of Merry and Pippin?

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Carlo
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posted January 06, 2003 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
Elijah Wood shaved his head and Tobey McGuire's hair is bright red right now. I see those guys around town sometimes

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QueenofSheeba
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posted January 06, 2003 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
Your're a a screen writer, aren't you?

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N_wEvil
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posted January 06, 2003 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I doubt Elrond is an Aqua...although to be fair he exhibits a few Aquarian qualities.

actually it seems from everyones' observations here that Tolkein really wasnt tuned into creating Aquarian characters amd their mindset one bit!

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Lost Leo
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posted January 06, 2003 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost Leo     Edit/Delete Message
Elijah Wood... Toby Maguire...
Aren't they one-in-the-same?
lol

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QueenofSheeba
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posted January 07, 2003 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
I think Eowyn is really more of a Virgo. She is beautiful, but described as very cold, iow the classic overworked Impatient with those stupid men for not letting her fight.

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Quinnie
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posted January 09, 2003 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Here are the main cast's date of birth and quite accurate to their characters too...

Frodo-Elijah Wood-Aquarius-Feb 28th 1981
Sam-Sean Astin-Pisces-Feb25th 1971
Aragorn-Viggo Mortensen-Libra-20th October 1958
Gandalf-Ian Mckellan-Gemini-May25th 1939
Legolas-Orlando Bloom-capricorn-13th december 1977
Gimli-John Rhys Davies-Taurus-May 5th 1944
Gollum-Andy Serkis-Aries/Taurus?-20th April 1964
Arwen-Liv Tyler-Cancer-July 1st 1977
Eowyn-Miranda Otto-Sagittarius-December 16th 1967
Sauraman-Christopher Lee-Gemini-May 27th 1922
Galadriel-cate Blanchett-Taurus-May 14th 1969
Elrond-Hugo Weaving-Aries-April 4th 1960
Merry-Dominic Monaghan-Sagittarius-Dec 8th 1976
Pippin-Billy Boyd-Aug 28th 1968
Bilbo baggins- Ian Holm-Virgo-Sept 12th 1931
Boromir-Sean Bean-Aries-April 17th 1959
King Theoden-Bernard Hill-Sagittarius-Dec 17th 1944
Wormtongue-Brad Dourif-Pisces-march 18th 1950


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Wave
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posted January 10, 2003 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wave     Edit/Delete Message
As in any character we can see various signs qualities, I think we've done a good and funny exercise of review, haven't we?

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Twin Lady
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posted January 10, 2003 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twin Lady     Edit/Delete Message
Quinnie,

Yes, I forgot Boromir before, but I agree; he definitely impressed me as Aries.

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Quinnie
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posted January 10, 2003 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message

Yeah Boromir is very Aries like!

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Vampire Angel
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posted January 19, 2003 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vampire Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Whoa...there's certainly a lot of Sagittarian actors there But why did you say Orlando was a Cappy when his b-date said December 13? He should be a Sagittarian too, then...

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Quinnie
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posted January 19, 2003 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
OOps he is a cappy, I made a mistake there sorry!
His date of birth is the 13th of January.

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taj
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posted January 20, 2003 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
what?!? no scorps?
how so very ...tame!

loved the movie!
a def second viewing is in my book!

this was sent to me right after The Fellowship of The Ring.

answer the questions and find out what character you are most like.
http://www.lifesupportal.com/LOTR

took it twice and still came out one and the same---legolas.

twinlady, i would seem to agree with your daughter that he is a sag since am one myself.(barring quinnie's list, of course)

yep, frodo's 'aquarianism' does show (a tad 'of his own' from the rest of his kinfolk) but he must have a strong pisces house or neptune in first house or pisces rising!

and arwen as cancer must have a venus/libra rising. that should explain the match with aragorn. heh.

eowyn as a sag sextiles aragorn's sun, am i right? her moon may be aries. methinks the man's got mars or uranus in sag. does a moon in sag ever get brooding?

i'm interested in the saturn placements, though.

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taj
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posted January 20, 2003 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
oops! sorry, i tested the link and it doesn't work. i'll see what i can do.

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taj
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posted January 20, 2003 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
the first one's gone.
here's a different one. http://geocities.com/mydigitalview/lotr_person.html

i'm elrond

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taj
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posted January 20, 2003 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
here's a mine of tests, if you're interested.

in the LOTR test, the first one, wowee... gandalf it is for me!
http://members.tripod.com/Melissa_Umlor/lotrtests.html

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posted January 20, 2003 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wave     Edit/Delete Message
I was Arwen in the first and Gandalf in the second.

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted January 23, 2003 12:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message

Haldir!


*THUD*

ohhhhhhh elves... Haldir... soo....

ahhhhhhhhhh!

*fans self*

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i feel so lonely when i'm not with you ..it's such a shame that i'm spending my time without you ..yet i have found you're from a different world ..don't you understand we ride on a space-ship out of control, how sublime

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proxieme
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posted October 05, 2003 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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