posted August 15, 2003 11:49 AM           

So, just give us a holler if you'd like to join. Eligibility requirements are below.

Your natal chart must possess the at least two, preferrably more, of the following characteristics:
* At least one, preferrably more, T-Squares in your chart, preferrably involving one or more of your luminaries.
* More than 3 Natal Planets retrograde, preferrably 5 or more.
* More "red lines" in your chart than "blue lines" (not to include minor aspects or asteroids, excluding Chiron).
* Heavy/"Difficult" Saturn and/or Chiron aspects to your inner planets, preferrably one or both luminaries.
* Heavy/"Difficult" Uranus, Neptune, and/or Pluto aspects to one or both of your luminaries.

NOTE: If you do not meet the above criteria, you may be admitted given general grooviness.

Signed and Dated 15 AUG 03,
- N_wEvil (Andy) - with 3 T-Squares in his Chart involving his Moon/Venus/Saturn, Pluto, Mars (respectively) and his Sun/Chiron/Saturn, 4 Planets Retrograde, and a whole mess of red lines drowning out blue ones
- proxieme (Corri) - with one Sun/Saturn/Neptune T-Square and one involving her Sun/Chiron/MC, all outer planets aspecting her Sun, 6 planets Rx, Chiron conjunct Venus, and, of course, more red than blue
- scatbug (Jason) - with 2 T-Squares involving the Sun/Moon/Saturn, Pluto (and more if you include his MC in the mix - I think that the tally's up to five or six), and a whole mess of red in there.

posted August 15, 2003 12:18 PM         

hmm well... lets see

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Your natal chart must possess the at least two, preferrably more, of the following characteristics:
* At least one, preferably more, T-Squares in your chart, preferably involving one or more of your luminaries.

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i dont know if i have any T-squares. would this count? Mars square Chiron Opposite Sun Uranus. im not that good at 'seeing' T-squares on the wheel, i have to think about them by viewing the aspect grid manually, and thats a little beyond my belaboured Rx merc at the mo.

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* More than 3 Natal Planets retrograde, preferrably 5 or more.

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i only have 3. they are merc saturn and chiron though, so can i have bonus points?

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* More "red lines" in your chart than "blue lines" (not to include minor aspects or asteroids, excluding Chiron).

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aside from the glaring (yet honestly? beautiful) grand trine, i got yer red babeh. in particular is the oppo of moon to half my libra stellium, but most of the red is thanks to cappy mars. Rx. it hates my stellium. ask andy about my chart, hes seen it. looking at my wheel makes me cry, if im feeling particularily maudlin at the time. that equilateral triangle is just so prominent, and if i do say, looks so beautiful. too bad my life doesnt

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* Heavy/"Difficult" Saturn and/or Chiron aspects to your inner planets, preferrably one or both luminaries.

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hah! i got you here, to be sure.

i have more aspects to chiron than any other planet. he happens to be oppo sun merc jupiter uranus and pluto, square mars and juno, and a couple of minor aspects too. he is trine neptune, but *shrug*. dunno how *that* particular placing helps me.

insofar as saturn, hes in taurus in the 4th whos cusp is ruled by aries and is therefore ruled by my buddy mars, through dispositorship. *sigh* other than that, saturns ok, part of that grand trine. hes trine mars and venus. might not be that *bad*, but its definitely complex. doesnt make my father a good man though. hes a dick for the most part.

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* Heavy/"Difficult" Uranus, Neptune, and/or Pluto aspects to one or both of your luminaries.

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pluto and uranus are conj sun. sometimes thats worse. other than that, i dont have much activity with the inners. just mars squares, merc squares. incidentally with all the major players (planets, chiron, angles, node) i have 7 or so squares. bleah. overall my aspect grid is riddled with them. i have heard that unaspected planets are areas where they are not integrated well in someones personality, if thats the case im one integrated M.F.

so can i play?

~complexifaery

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and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 15, 2003 01:14 PM         

Let's see...one moon in cancer square uranus in libra which is opposite venus in aries, there's one T-Square with the point on the moon. It's a weak T-Square but my astrologer says it's one so I guess it counts.

The square between the moon and venus is tight. The square between chiron in aries and the moon is very tight. There is a tigher T-Squre between chrion, uranus in libra and the moon, with the moon at the point again.

The moon is in the 8th so the lesson is the empty leg, 2nd house values. That means a lot to me.

I have many red lines
Neptune is opposite Saturn and Sun, but exactly opposite the sun, not quite exactly opposite Saturn. Saturn is semi-square the Moon. The Moon is semi-square the Sun.

Many squares, many oppositions. The only good aspects are the trine between the midheaven, jupiter and pluto and the sun and saturn. The moon has a lot of issues...
It's a good thing I'm a Taurus if my lesson is values.

posted August 15, 2003 05:38 PM         

hhmmm. .i've only got three retrograde planets but one of them is Mercury who is conjoined to Neptune..further muddling up me mind at times..

posted August 17, 2003 02:57 PM         

I haven't even prepared a speech!

posted August 20, 2003 04:41 PM         

"A T-square is a Grand Cross with one arm missing."

Lunar