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proxieme
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posted September 21, 2003 12:49 PM
Would you say that music creates emotions within those who listen to it, or that it illicits those already existing?Just curious.  IP: Logged |
N_wEvil
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posted September 21, 2003 01:43 PM
It's my beleif you can't make someone feel something thats' not already there, therefore music taps into an existing emotional stateIt is definately true for cinematography! Its sometimes hard to not confuse creating an atmosphere with creating an emotion though... IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted September 21, 2003 02:23 PM
Interesting concept, Prox.
Music is created from the perfect emotional/cerebral energy fusion of someone who is ever aware of those emotions...so much so that they can almost taste them, see them, hear them. They are real and spilling out onto the page before them, or dancing out of their fingertips onto the instrument.
Those notes and melodies are emotions animated.
That same music will find it's way into the souls of other individuals who will allow it in, and allow it to permeate their being, thus allowing those very same emotions to wash over them. We all contain those emotions, but some of us have a 3rd eye for seeing them and bringing them to the tangible world. And others who may not have quite the same level of command over those emotions, but open and creative enough to recognize them when they come knocking, will appreciate that music. The stronger you identify with the given mixed bag of emotions found within any given work, the more fond of it you'll be. This is true for all types of music, ranging from "anger rock" to classical. If it speaks your emotional language, you'll groove with it. If not, it'll fall flat.
There are as many different works of music as there are emotional vibrations.(*whew! where did THAT come from?...What a wind bag I am today*)
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Lunargirl
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posted September 21, 2003 09:01 PM
You must be channeling yoursELF direct, Lioneye!  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted September 21, 2003 09:20 PM
Perhaps. But Prox has a way of provoking that in me. I think it's the Aqua moon symbiosis. But really, it's a very thought provoking concept, don't ya think? IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 21, 2003 10:02 PM
Well said, Lioneye.
I agree and also find that certain songs or genres of music I didn't like before, I find an interest in later on. Maybe I've tapped and grown beyond what I was then, not ready for that particular piece to speak to me. Then, BOOM! Hello! Why did I not 'get you' before! So that totally makes sense to me.IP: Logged |
scatbug
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posted September 22, 2003 12:57 AM
speaking as a person who readily experiences these type things...
Music is very much an influence on emotions and feelings, hence "mood music", albeit not all music is what most of us would call "mood music". When i was in my freshman and sophomore years of highschool, i listened to a lot of metal, headbanging and trhashing and all of that. I found myself feeling angry and could get Quite snippy if anyone disturbed me whilst listening to my music. I found also that not only did it envoke feelings, it also amplified them, much as if you passed a 12 volt current through an ignition coil, in goes 12 volts out comes 20,0000+. I foudn that mostly instrumantal metal peices were the ones that brought it out the most, examples being Metallica's "Call of Cthulu" which would sturr up angry/firey/rebel type emotion in me or intensify my anger toward some one, and Metallica's "Orion" but this one always brings out/ brought out(i still listen to that peice every once in a while) a feeling of inspiration, to create a story in my head, usually some gallant hero defeating soem sort of evil power winning the girl etc etc etc you know classic good vs evil struggle. When i listen to U2, depending on the song, cause there are some songs that just get me all fired up ( but in a posative way, like fired up to be alive or full of happiness and spunk)i feel generally relaxed, kind of "chill" or calm, content. The misfits tend to give mea lil it of a cocky feeling, kinda like " Ha! YOU CANT TOUCH ME!!" but thats the older stuff the newer stuff just kinda gets me jumpin to the beat doesnt move me emotionally as it does physicaly. The RAMONES, *happy sigh* they are my musical godsend, able to lift me out of any funk and get me back on my feet again. The back beat gets my troubled soul back in step and gets me a bee-boppin down the road again. The energy, the speed, the idunnowhattocallit but its there in the music, in the buzzsaw action of Johnny tearing away at the strings, Dee Dee leaping into teh air in an atomic explosion of bass, the stacatto of gunfire that is marky firing away at the drums and joey belting out in his hiccoughey voice that screams to me "GET UP! ( hallelujah!!!!) GET BACK ON YOUR FEET! (praise be!!)YOU ARE TO TOUGH TO DIE!! YOU GOT WAY TOO MUCH TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IN THIS LIFE, TO SPEND YOUR TIME BEIN' SAD! etc etc etc. Spin doctors just make me feel kinda groovy like. Lynyrd Skynyrd just makes me feel like a' havin fun and bein'silly. Heres what i propose you do... for one week solid listen to nothing but heavy metal, the next listen to nothing but bands like U2, and so on and so forth, record your emotions during that week any feelings and confrontations/fights you have with anyone, i think you will notice a thing or two
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gsinibaldi
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posted September 22, 2003 02:52 PM
Hey all,As a musician I really enjoy reading what others think of this issue. Great thread proxieme! When I make music, be it composing or performing, my emotions are my own. How the listener perceives them is completely out of my control. I could be composing something with a particular feeling in mind and it may not convey that emotion to a listener, however it can convey some emotion to the listener. It simply may not be the emotion I intended. I think that’s what makes music so great, we can all have out individual experiences with it and every persons experience is valid. An interesting side note about this: When you listen to music, how do your emotions react when listening to music with words as opposed to instrumental music. When listening to music with words are you reacting to the poetry or the sonic material? Maybe both? Cool topic…. Greg
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pixelpixie
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posted September 22, 2003 02:56 PM
cool addition to the topic, greg!IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted September 22, 2003 03:04 PM
"How the listener perceives them is completely out of my control. I could be composing something with a particular feeling in mind and it may not convey that emotion to a listener,"That pretty much sums up what I was thinking. I think 2 people can listen to the same song, and neither will get the "same" thing from it. IP: Logged |
moondreamer
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posted September 27, 2003 05:40 PM
HELLO THERE EVERYONEJust wanna say that music can bring out the best and worst in oneself! IP: Logged |
Annie Kuzma
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posted September 27, 2003 09:09 PM
I LOVE MUSIC!!It keeps me SANE!! I LIVE for it!!  I love to talk to musicians, and listen to their emotions come through. I think they are the most blessed on this earth! 
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Peace and Love
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Lunargirl
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posted September 27, 2003 10:29 PM
I tend toward the line of argument that suggests that music elicits or evokes the emotions that we all possess the capacity to experience, to one degree or another.Which is why certain musics are more dear to us than others -- because they have "taken" us to places inside ourselves, where we have never been, except in dreams, or in our imaginations. Some music resonates the emotions of our deepest being with experiences to which we can only aspire, and will not neccesarily experience in our own lives -- the troubles of heroes, kings, queens, the heights of love, the harshness of war, the depth of blues (scatbug, I hear ya on the power of metal, although you couldn't classify me as a headbanger). It makes us larger than we are in our activities and experiences -- music is a conduit to our own inner world, a gift of all musicians of all realms. Why else could a songbird make a person smile, or cry? As for the lyric/instrumental question, for me, a singer's voice and the lyrics used, just add a layer onto the wholistic experience of the song. If it's organic, then it all works and flows -- if it's a bad match, not a talented voice, or too jarring (discordant jazz and avant-garde pieces notwithstanding), then it doesn't work, similar to how a badly-played musical line or badly-chosen instrument can throw off the song... like having an oboe replace Judy Garland in her arrangement of Over the Rainbow... I'm digressing like mad. I'll just stop here. IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
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posted September 29, 2003 10:33 AM
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Aphrodite
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posted September 29, 2003 10:37 AM
Mmmh, trying again!------------------
"If music be the food of love, play on." -Twelfth Night, by William Shakespeare IP: Logged | |
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